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Marijuana use around a child.

ish675

ish675

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I have a 4 month old and I was wondering what the general consensus is about having weed around your kid. I NEVER SMOKE around him nor do I smoke in the house period. But he was sitting in his chair the other day and I was grinding, and prepping my bud, and cleaning my equipment while he hung out and watched me, I let him touch my grinder, and smell a nug, he smiled and laughed (he does that to everything), I know he's too young to understand what any of that was but it got me thinking. He has ZERO exposure to smoke (and I will never SMOKE around him and expose him to any drug or smoke at all) but I figured I wouldn't hide it from him. It's illegal in my area, but plenty of dads' drink and /or brew alcohol around their child, and I don't see any difference. I don't drink, and I'm hoping if I show him that people can use marijuana responsibly, it might even take the novelty out of it when he get old enough to try it. Even then, as long as it doesn't negatively affect his life, I don't mind him using. Most kids grow up thinking "that's dad's adult drink and I can't have it yet" but I see no difference in him thinking "that's dad's adult bowl / bong / weed, and I can't have it yet" either. I just think hiding things from your kids and lying to them is stupid and wong, and even at a young age they should know that weed exists, but it's only for adults, not kids. I don't want to encourage drug use in kids at all, but I would rather not lie to him when he gets old enough to understand. I'm a felon too and I have to figure out a way to explain to him, when he's a reasonable age to understand, that dad thought robbing a pharmacy and gas station was a good idea too. My parents lied to me about fucking everything, and it made it very hard for me to trust anyone growing up, when the people who are supposed to care about you and teach you how the world works lie all the time, it can fuck you up. I dont want my son to think that I'm a lair, and to not trust me, but I can't just tell him everything, outright, all at once, either. Advice or personal experience?
 
This is an ethical area a lot of parents have to tread very carefully around.
I tend to agree with your comparison to parents drinking around their kids....
But when you get up to the bit about your prior convictions, and involvement in armed robberies - i get the impression that drugs have had a major impact on your life - and that they've been a problem for you.
That being the case, i think shielding your drug use (even cannabis) from your boy is probably wise.

I don't mean to sound judgemental, but i think there are genetic - as well as clear environmental - ways that problematic drug use can be passed down through families.
He's as innocent as can be about these things - and as he grows up, my instinct is towards keeping him innocent for as long as is possible or necessary.
Most kids don't grow into adulthood these days naive about drugs, which could be both good and bad - but if you are too open with him, it may normalise the subject from a young age, something you can't turn back.
A lot of my friends that are parents smoke and/or sell weed. Some of their kids won't touch it - some of their kids ended up in juvi because of drugs :/
Just some thoughts. 4 months is a very cute age. He sounds like a treasure <3
 
I've known working class families in which the parents (or grandparents) smoke weed, sometimes in front of the youngest members of the family...although they'll step outside because no one wants a smoky house. I've never had a big problem with the practice, the kids know the score and generally-speaking the societal attitude in the region I live in is very libertarian (which probably led to the state becoming fully legalized) In that kind of situation, I don't really see any fundamental difference between responsible alcohol use among adults w/ kids, and responsible marijuana use among adults w/ kids
 
^ yeah, same.
It actually came as a bit of a shock to me as a teenager when i realised the psychoactive effects of the "couple of drinks" my square-as-fuck parents would have regularly in social situations, or with a meal.
I was more or less oblivious that beer and wine get you intoxicated, as i didn't notice their behaviour change too much.

Cannabis is much the same.
 
My dad thought that what your thinking would be a good idea, and it was probably one of the major things that ended up breaking my family apart. I started way too young and my mom was so against that and it just created never ending problems.

I would keep it to yourself, sure others do but do you want to be better, or give your kid a better chance at succeeding?
It all starts somewhere.
My sister was totally into school, academics, he embarrassed her so many times they have no relationship anymore.
We were total enemies before the divorce and after we started smoking together and have been close since, but it ruined so many things in my life.
My first experience with cannabis at the age of 9 was setting a big cola on fire because I thought he would knew if I had use his pipe.
I wish my parents would have been nerds and wine drinkers versus the b.s. I had to put up with.
 
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So many good things said already. Spacejunk, you are right too, addiction runs in my family. I use marijuana for medical (severe nausea and vomiting, so bad it would be hard for me to function) and just as much so for recreational purposes as well. I think part of the reason he needs to know is so that he is aware that he won't be able to casually use drugs like many of his friends will be able too; because genetically he's predisposed for addiction. I'm also not condoning smoking MJ anymore than a responsible parent encourages alcohol use. I just don't feel that hiding it is the best way to go. As far as the robbery goes, it was a big deal around here, people know about it and a newspaper article can easily be found on google. I want him to hear it from me, before he hears it from someone else. Also, the article makes me sound like a fucking monster, the truth is quite a bit less worse than the article makes it out to be, my snitching co-defendant is the one who planned it, and actually comitted it. At the time, the police thought it was actually me who went in and robbed the stores (which is what the newspaper article says), in reality, I was just the getaway driver. (All of this came out later, but the article was written, and the damage was done) I want him to hear the truth first, before he reads an article written for, more or less, entertainment. I don't want him to think I'm hiding things from him. I want to build a parenting relationship based on trust and respect; not fear and reward.
 
I think it's ok, but it partially depends on what the laws are in your state, and that you take the time to educate your child first (so when they hear about cannabis outside your home, they'll already have deep-seated knowledge that it is, in fact, a medicinal plant).

The old saying "you have to be taught to hate" is 100% accurate. If you teach your children that cannabis is medicine, and you honestly use it that way, they'll believe that and treat it as such. When they're 10 or 12 you can inform them that people use cannabis for recreation as well, and they'll be able to more readily understand responsible use, because it's all they'll have been exposed to.
 
He is 4 months old man, with all do respect he is a little young to be educated to become a marijuana connoisseur. I think once he gets old enough to understand than he can be properly educated hopefully, by that time it will be legal. From one Father to another be careful as some people don't understand and are quick to judge and report.
 
w/o reading the OP i'll just say that i wouldn't smoke anything near a 'child'.

simply for second-hand smoke reasons. as far as the child observing.. well.. that's something s/he will observe in the future regardless :\
 
I think being mildly to moderately high in front of a kid is OK (like being buzzed on alcohol) but I would never smoke or have paraphernalia out in front of them. Kids have too much curiosity. With beer or alcohol it is a little different because it is a liquid that can be disguised as unalchoholic if need be
 
spacejunk said:
It actually came as a bit of a shock to me as a teenager when i realised the psychoactive effects of the "couple of drinks" my square-as-fuck parents would have regularly in social situations,...
I was more or les oblivious that beer and wine get you intoxicated
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I had that same shock at one point too when I had my first hard liquor. I tipped back almost a whole glass and was so drunk that night in could go to school the next day. I'm a regular smoker and I don't get "baked" when I have to watch my kid. Late at night, after bed time I can enjoy a nice buzz, but I need to smoke ( at least 1 medium sized hit) before each meal for nausea. I'm in an illegal state, but I do like Felonious Monks idea about explaining that it is medicine when they are young, and most likely by the time he can understand the concept of recreational drugs, it will be legalized and then the problem becomes completely different.
 
I believe there's almost no doubt that cannabis will be legal by the time your boy is old enough to understand what the fuss is all about.

On topic, although I'm not a parent, I will give my two cents on this subject. Basically I agree with others who have said that as long as you don't smoke around your child and are not too blazed out of your mind, it's not a big deal. It's best to keep your cannabis-related stuff out of plain sight as well. As has been said, it's alright to have an alcoholic drink or two with dinner around a child, so why would it be not okay to use cannabis moderately?

Another thing to consider for when your son grows up is being open about drug use and especially emphasizing correct and objective information about drugs. Because who are we kidding, children will find out about drugs sooner or later, so it would be better if they could talk about it to their parents and feel like they could trust them with this.
 
belligerent drunk said:
Another thing to consider for when your son grows up is being open about drug use and especially emphasizing correct and objective information about drugs. Because who are we kidding, children will find out about drugs sooner or later, so it would be better if they could talk about it to their parents and feel like they could trust them with this.
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That was my thought exactly. I grew up learning that all drugs are bad, not fun, kill you, etc, typical anti-drug stuff. When I smoked weed for the first time I realized that I had been lied too and that maybe other drugs were okay too. I didn't know what information was an exaggeration or was true so I didn't listen to ANY of what was taught to me because SOME of it wasn't true. I feel like if I was more informed instill would have tried "softer" drugs, but would have stayed away from the hard stuff. Information and facts, good and bad, are, I think, the best way to go.
 
The only way I can see this going well would be that you get high only after GREAT achievement in front of him so he does not associate THC as a need for personnal comfort. He would associate THC to reward and if he is mature enough he will wait to try it.

But my most reasonable answer is toke when they are not there.
 
You have it right by not smoking around your child, yet there is no reason to let an infant smell a bud. Grow up. Keep it away from him.
 
Some things are best kept entirely away from babies...drugs being one of them. The kid is four months old - allowing an infant to play with your grinder and smell your weed is fucking retarded. I hope for the child's sake, the mother feels a bit differently about this sort of thing.

Shit like this gives us all a bad name. You don't need to lie to the kid when the time comes, but that time is far from now.
 
If they're not exposed to second hand smoke and can't get their hands on your tools or weed then it's probably fine. My beef is with parents who expose their children to the smoke.

I see no difference between a parent who has a couple of drinks in the evening vs. a toke of weed. My parents did neither, but I had friends in high school whose parents smoked pot and it wasn't a problem.

The only thing I'd be wary of is how your behavior changes when you're mind altered, regardless of which substance you're using. Young children are very sensitive to unstable environments and if you start acting sketchy around them it can be harmful.
 
I don't understand why people are so against the baby touching/smelling bud? It's just a plant, plus it smells nice. Surely you don't think the child will get enough of cannabinoids in their system that way to be a cause for concern? Yeah, it's better not to, but it's not like he's letting the baby play with syringes and stuff. Making the baby cook up shots for him.
 
belligerent drunk said:
I don't understand why people are so against the baby touching/smelling bud? It's just a plant, plus it smells nice. Surely you don't think the child will get enough of cannabinoids in their system that way to be a cause for concern? Yeah, it's better not to, but it's not like he's letting the baby play with syringes and stuff. Making the baby cook up shots for him.
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I guess I was just raised differently.

Plant or no plant...a four month old baby playing with a grinder and weed just rubs me the wrong way. I don't feel that exposing babies and young children to drugs and drug paraphernalia is healthy, or that it encourages responsible drug use. In fact, I feel that normalising it that early - to the point where the kid is allowed to play with it as a baby, may encourage drug use at a much earlier age than what would be considered ideal or healthy.

You yourself said that it's better not to do this. I can see how what OP is doing might go wrong...but I can't see any benefits. Why do it then? It's easy to simply not let your baby play with your drugs. Why not wait till the kid is at the appropriate age, then have a talk about responsible drug use then?
 
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