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Marijuana is the only true drug

fieryslash

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I believe the rest of them are called addictions. Marijuana is not a gateway drug which is why it is so special. When you smoke, you have the feeling of "coming home." Does one release spiritual energy when one gets "high"? Is the effect so tremendous that there are no words to describe it? Can other people consume your spiritual energy? What exactly is spiritual energy? I believe it is a life-force in which all people share the same feelings. Your thoughts and questions.
 
There is a difference between using medicine for recreational use and intentionally using medicine ceremonially to cultivate spiritual understanding and for guidance. I believe that plant medicines are teachers, they are gateways to the spirit realm which allow us to tap into more of our true nature, in a spiritual sense. Marijuana is just one of many plant medicines that can be used for this purpose, so I think it is a little unfair of you to exclude all other medicines except marijuana. I have had extremely powerful experiences with mushroom medicine, ayahuasca medicine, DMT medicine, Peyote Medicine, etc.

Also, I would say that marijuana does have the potential to be psychologically addictive - I have witnessed this quality manifest in many people.

I know exactly what you mean by the feeling of "coming home", and I have experienced this in different degrees with the help of plant medicines, and also through meditation and other powerful ceremonies and rituals.

I would say ultimately what is most important is your intention when you use these medicines, rather than the actual medicine itself.

Union with the Spirit of all things. Absolute Beauty. Love for all beings.

I would say spiritual energy is undefinable by nature, but it is cultivated through our awareness and our consciousness. There are different types of spiritual energy and many different densities of vibration, but the universe is ultimately made of one substance, and it is this energy which animates the entire cosmos.

Your "Life Force" is a channel through which spiritual energy manifests as biological life. Some traditions call it the Kundalini energy. Your life force can be depleted and consumed by others, but only if you allow this to happen. This is a very elaborate subject that would take too long to explain in a single post.

Blessings to you brother, much love on your journey

In Lak'Ech, I am another yourself.
 
Your life force can be depleted and consumed by others, but only if you allow this to happen.
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This is some thing I know very little about, can you give us some more info or any books on the topic.

also is it possible to raise your life force to strengthen yourself
 
I'm sure it's possible to raise your life force but it's probably a mystery on how one does it. If your not living life the way you want, you clearly are doing something wrong.
 
This is some thing I know very little about, can you give us some more info or any books on the topic.

also is it possible to raise your life force to strengthen yourself

I'll try to condense some of what I know into a lengthy post for everyone's benefit. This is based on my own personal experience. I am tired, so please forgive typos and such.


Ultimately, I would say that the more you are manifesting your true nature, the stronger your life force will be. There are many aspects of this. . The effects of this can range from simple physical manifestations, emotional manifestations, mental manifestations, and spiritual / etheric manifestations.


In the physical sense, a simple example would be running 5 miles and becoming tired, you have expended a good deal of energy.

In a Mental sense, an example would be judging yourself harshly, or thinking negatively of yourself or someone else. Thought is a creative force and this can create blockages in your energy body which prevent the life force from flowing correctly.

In the emotional sense, an example would be becoming angry at someone or getting in a verbal confrontation with someone, people who get in emotional fights are often draining energy from one another. A person who is being emotionally abusive towards another person is stealing energy from the person who is allowing themselves to be a victim in the situation. Anytime someone allows themselves to be a victim in any situation there is an energetic exchange that is happening, they are allowing someone to take their energy.

More can be learned about this process if you read about energetic vampirisim, and just study the mechanics of energy exchange between people in general. Energetic vampirisim is a practice in which individuals consciously learn how to drain other peoples life force. Individuals often perceive this need because their own life force is lacking. Many energetic vampires do this unconsciously, but there are other who do so consciously. If you have ever known a person who being around just made you Drained and tired, or even sick, this is an example of a person who is unconsciously or consciously draining energy.

Things get a little mucky when it comes to the ways that energy is exchanged on an Ethereal level. There are many energies and spirits which are parasitic in nature, they feed on other peoples life force. I spent a long time dealing with extremely intense & volatile energies that left me depleted and drained in the early phases of my shamanic practice. Most of the time they manifest through the mental sphere. They can also be channeled through other people or individuals. They are not "Wrong" or bad, as they are only being true to their nature, but it they are capable of causing great distress and tricking you into giving them much of your vital life force energy. They can manifest as voices, visually, an unexplainable presence, and in dreams, among many other forms.

The trick about all of these forms of energetic exchange, is that you can only be drained by another person or energy if you allow yourself to be a victim. This is especially true when it comes to Ethereal and spirit manifestations. You are the master of your own mind, and these forces can only drain your energy if you allow them to trick you into believing they have power over you. If you remember that you are a divine being of light, and stay grounded in your identity of truth, in union with Spirit, these things can not touch you. It is only when you forget your true nature that these forces have any power over you. Ultimately these forces manifest to teach us lessons about ourselves. They are teachers in their own way, to help us become stronger and more aware.

People have also developed many rituals to ward away energies like this (wearing a cross, getting crystals for protection, carrying certain herbs, practicing psychic shielding, the list goes on) - I used to use many of these methods but lately I feel like they are unnecessary if you are able to maintain a certain quality of awareness. To each their own.

depending on your degree of energetic sensitivity, your environment can also have a large effect on your energy levels. A messy and stagnant environment is likely going to make your own energy more chaotic and stagnant to some degree if you spend enough time in that environment, unless you are particularly strong willed. Where as a sacred space, a forest, etc can have a very empowering effect on your energy and life force. Our life force is strongly connected to the earth, and the stronger your own connection to the earth is easier it will be for you to channel that life-force energy. So spending a good amount of time in nature is a great way to increase your life force.

The food you eat also has a tremendous effect on the strength of your life force. There is a lot of evidence to suggest that a diet composed largely of simple and raw foods (nuts, fruits, vegetables) contains a very high vibration that will increase the strength of your life force. (do research before attempting a diet like this). I generally eat a diet of 50-75% raw foods, I avoid preservatives, corn syrup, msg, and sugar, as well as processed meats and dairy. This is a personal choice and different foods have different effects on people, but generally speaking processed food and refined sugars, flavor enhancers, etc, are all going create blockages in your energy body and prevent the creative force from flowing correctly.

There are many spiritual practices for cultivating and strengthening your life-force. Yoga, Qi Gong, Meditations, and some forms of energy healing are things that come to mind off the top of my head. Many of these practices strengthen the energy body and allow more energy to flow, while simultaneously helping to remove blockages that obstruct the natural flow of energy.

Also, just going to throw this one in for fun, electromagnetic frequencies and electronics that omit radiation can weaken your life-force from prolonged exposure. This is particularly true for cell phones and people often carry them with them for long periods of time.

These are just many examples, there are so many different aspects of this subject... Here is an article I wrote awhile ago that expands further on how being true to yourself and being true to your heart can greatly increase your energy levels, if you wish to read further.

http://www.evolver.net/user/cosmicdream/blog/power_surrender

There are also hundreds if not thousands of books on this subject, but I do not have any personal recommendations - I learned most of this directly from other people and personal observation/experience, which ultimately is the best way to do it - only you know if something is true. Take what resonates with you and ignore the rest.


I know nothing. Take everything I say with a grain of salt.


Blessings and Love to all beings.

Divine Manifest.
 
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I believe the rest of them are called addictions.

Also, I would say that marijuana does have the potential to be psychologically addictive - I have witnessed this quality manifest in many people.

I agree with Ugster, anyone who thinks marijuana is not addictive just hasn't smoked enough. I spent a couple of years with a debilitating addiction to pot. I could not function without it: wake and bake in the morning, smoke again before leaving the house, smoke on my lunch break at work, smoke when getting home from work, smoke before going to bed, and even smoked in between the times I mentioned.

When I finally quit, it took several weeks before I could have a restful night of sleep. I even had trouble coping with social situations for a little while and experienced irritability. But once the cobwebs cleared from my brain I felt a lot better. I've only smoked one time in the past 5 years, I came to the realization that I just can't do it anymore.

As far as it not being a gateway drug, ya know, a lot of people try to rationalize their pot use by arguing with every statistic out there. I don't really know if it's a gateway drug for everyone, but it was for me. It's just so easy for a first time drug user to put a little bit in a pipe and smoke it and feel the effects almost immediately. After a lot of experience with pot, I eventually learned how to use a crack pipe and even IV heroin. I know I'm not the only one out there who started with marijuana.

I'm not against pot, hell, I think it should be legal. I'm just speaking from my own experiences.
 
fieryslash, you clearly find marijuana to be the best and most fitting drug for you, on your personal life path. But that doesn't make it the only TRUE drug. I'm just nitpicking.

It's actually my drug of choice too, and I find it's largely a force for good in my life. Helps me keep perspective.
 
I agree with Ugster, anyone who thinks marijuana is not addictive just hasn't smoked enough. I spent a couple of years with a debilitating addiction to pot. I could not function without it: wake and bake in the morning, smoke again before leaving the house, smoke on my lunch break at work, smoke when getting home from work, smoke before going to bed, and even smoked in between the times I mentioned.

When I finally quit, it took several weeks before I could have a restful night of sleep. I even had trouble coping with social situations for a little while and experienced irritability. But once the cobwebs cleared from my brain I felt a lot better. I've only smoked one time in the past 5 years, I came to the realization that I just can't do it anymore.

As far as it not being a gateway drug, ya know, a lot of people try to rationalize their pot use by arguing with every statistic out there. I don't really know if it's a gateway drug for everyone, but it was for me. It's just so easy for a first time drug user to put a little bit in a pipe and smoke it and feel the effects almost immediately. After a lot of experience with pot, I eventually learned how to use a crack pipe and even IV heroin. I know I'm not the only one out there who started with marijuana.

I'm not against pot, hell, I think it should be legal. I'm just speaking from my own experiences.
They are just trying to rationalize why they think marijuana is the best drug out there. Nothing they do is addictive or harmful to them. People try to say marijuana isn't a gateway drug, when it usually is. People don't start off with coke or H, at least most don't. Most 15 year olds don't wake up one day and decide they want to snort a couple lines, they start off my smoking. They smoke with more people, more often, eventually one of their friends puts a line on a table and tells them to try it. Not addictive? Sure, I can go some time without smoking. I'd much rather smoke though, and I know some friends who can't go a day without smoking. They've tried really hard.
 
I have to disagree, what about other psychedelics, mushrooms for example? I think all drugs can be good when used with the proper education and moderation. Healthy natural drugs such as Cannabis and Psilocybin mushrooms however are a better choice for the majority of people, and I think they have a far deeper spiritual connection than the majority of drugs out there. I would definitely not go as far as to say that Cannabis is the only drug that is not an addiction, this is a generalisation, and it is the people making these generalisations that are the reason behind Cannabis and other drugs remaining illegal and controlled. Psilocybin mushrooms for example are even safer than smoking Cannabis as you do not cause yourself any lung damage, however I would say more people prefer Cannabis simply because it is easier going for inexperienced users. The key to what drugs are safe or not lies not in the drug itself, but in the user, someone with very little knowledge should only ever stick to drugs with very little/no overdose potential and very few health risks such as Cannabis, however someone with the proper knowledge and dedication to safety and harm reduction can experiment with a much wider array of drugs without doing themselves any lasting harm. :)
 
Wow the words you used were almost exact in how I would describe some aspects of weed and its effects. I do not believe it is the only true drug however; but "life-force" and "coming home" struck me as interestingly coincidental. I always thought weed was like Life. Weed overflows you with the feelings and actuality of life. Its like taking your life and looking at every part of it with a high powered magnifying glass. I think it puts perspective truth and sensibility into your head. I find when I smoke weed when high off dope (H) or coke or something I am reminded by the herb that the H I'm smoking habitually is an actual hard core drug, and also an issue i must deal with. I hesitate to smoke weed too often because I don't always like being blasted in the face with the harsh reality that is my life. When I'm not high off weed and just smoking some dope, It really isn't very intense and I find it hard to take on the same perspective I have when high off weed and can rationalize continuing to smoke H.

But yeah, it is a life-force life sustaining energy substance. It can be used in very good ways.

2 strange things; It can be addictive in itself, and it takes away your ability to remember dreams which I do not see as beneficial. And for me it elevates my heart rate X more than crack even. I get a hard fast pounding in my chest sometimes that is not pleasant.
 
I strongly disagree with you.

Drugs I've done (in chronological order):
-alcohol
-marijuana
-salvia
-2ci
-4 aco-MiPT
-DOC
-mushrooms
-mescaline

To me, marijuana is on the same level as alcohol. Yes, I said it. When I smoke, here is what happens: I ingest marijuana. I feel sluggish. I feel tired. I feel self-conscious. I want to retreat into myself. I listen to music and love it, then fall asleep. I wake up and feel hung-over and stupid.

I feel like marijuana is THE gateway drug.

When we're talking about spirituality and the like, nothing compares to mescaline (I imagine MDMA is the culmination of this effect). Total empathy, total connectedness, total understanding. With marijuana, I feel like I draw into myself, feel totally self-conscious, very confined to a space which only I can occupy. Sit next to a friend while tripping and you'll feel utterly uncomfortable (at least I do).
 
^ yeah marijuana does the same to me, some people find it a great drug to socialise on, i like the above poster find it the complete opposite. Marijuana suits me best to listen to music or watch a movie in the company of close friends but preferably alone. It makes me self analyse myself, and usually i tend to get stuck on the negatives. This can be good i guess in finding my faults and trying to improve them, but the thing is taking it more then once every few months wouldn't do me any good and would infact just manifest negative thoughts and bring me down overall.I don't smoke it all that much but i do smoke it more then i believe i should.. so i guess that would make it addictive to me.

If you find marijuana to help you go for it, but its not the only true drug, and on the topics you mention, 'spiritual energy,' 'life force,' i know for a fact that harder psychedelic drugs can do a more introspective job at this and if you were to realise this would marijuana not be a gateway drug?
 
I think the biggest factor of marijuana being a gateway to other drugs revolves around the stigma attached to illegal drugs. I was conditioned throughout my upbringing that illegal drugs are dangerous and are enjoyed predominantly by criminals and outcasts. When the chance came for me to experiment with weed and I found it to be an enjoyable and (at first) beneficial experience, it is no surprise at all the the thought arose: "well if they were wrong about pot, then what other drugs are they wrong about!" I think this logic also extends to the common counter-culture 'conspiracy' mind-frame that a lot of people who are passionate about marijuana have. It's this big sense of "what else have I been lied to about!"

Having said that, I can relate strongly to this post:

I agree with Ugster, anyone who thinks marijuana is not addictive just hasn't smoked enough. I spent a couple of years with a debilitating addiction to pot. I could not function without it: wake and bake in the morning, smoke again before leaving the house, smoke on my lunch break at work, smoke when getting home from work, smoke before going to bed, and even smoked in between the times I mentioned.

When I finally quit, it took several weeks before I could have a restful night of sleep. I even had trouble coping with social situations for a little while and experienced irritability. But once the cobwebs cleared from my brain I felt a lot better. I've only smoked one time in the past 5 years, I came to the realization that I just can't do it anymore.

One of the dangers of this "they lied to me" mind-frame is that for me and a lot of my friends, it quickly turns into a stance that is very defensive of drugs. I am also not against drugs and I think there is seriously good argument for the legalisation of weed, but the defensiveness and the almost fanatical "the government just doesn't want us to have FUN" or "the government is scared that if people smoke weed they won't NEED the system anymore" approach ignores a lot of the problems that marijuana can have for people.

Sorry if I went a bit off topic. :)
 
Getting into things like spritual energy, chakras ect are mind pollutants, feelng like you are 'coming home' etc is understabdable and I totally agree that is just a complete feelings of relaxation and the days at an end type thing which is an individual things as people could experience it many different ways but it all relates to relaxation and freeing yourself. But seriously making ur mind believe in things that are not really recohniseable at this point in time like spritual energy and such there is so much danger in making a delusion about it.

Personally I think it would be a better and safer option to devote the benefits to actually use of weed rather than an idea that has the abaility to fuck with your head.
 
^ Lol.

I personally happen to think Ketamine is the only drug.

Now, if someone can convince me how this thread is somehow different from the 10000 or so "x is my favourite drug" threads found all around BL's several drug sub-forums, and how it relates to P&S, I might consider leaving it open.
 
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