LSD Ruined My Life: The 3 Year Trip Edition

[ThatGuy767]

So I want answers as to why this ever happened to me. I used to be a very trippy dude. I loved tripping and maybe some day I'll take mushrooms again but lsd I am done forever. Whether it was laced or not the experience I had was so profound and traumatizing I never even want to touch it. In 8 months at the age of 17 I had 6 lsd trips and 5 mushroom trips in 8 months. Now I've grown up now and realized that you cant do that lol especially at 17 and havent tripped since. But besides my age, everything went flat after my last trip and my head was in constant pain ever since to the point where I was really considering ending my life because I couldnt experience euphoria anymore not even on any drugs. Thankfully over time I used herbs and vitamins to heal my mind back to normal and the oddest most controversial topic of lsd is the spine myth. Let me tell you. I have it on paper. I can show you the medical record. All of this pain in my head I was kind of going away through time but then I started going numb in the left side of my body a half year back and that's when I realized I had to see a doctor. I went to a chiropractor and I had weakness and pain in the lumbar section. I also have a pinched nerve. It felt like after the trip something in the left side of my forehead just gave up like it died or just burnt out or something. Everyday I feel what happened from the trip in my head healing itself atleast that is what my body is communicating to me. Also after the trip I went to work a week later and smoked a bowl before. I went inside to work on a grill and all of a sudden my vision flipped upside down and I walked to the left for 7 seconds with no control over my body with a spatula in my hand. What happened? Why? After I started going through a month of chiropractic therapy I had shooting pain going to my dick for about 2 weeks and then it stopped. Then a about a week ago I had shooting pains in the left side of my face that went into my teeth. This to me signifies neurological damage. I'm so scared that if I took lsd again I'd have no reason to live because I'd go through this again. I've been through a lot of shit man and this is the hardest thing I've ever been through I've had to work hard to retain my memories and personality. It didnt taste funny it was tasteless like lsd. I dont get it. Everyone else you tripped like every week seemed fine.... at the time...........

 

[ThatGuy767]

Weed is well-known for re-activating HPPD and throwing sufferers back into a 'trip'.

Were you also smoking during or after your other trips, or even regularly?

The short answer is that until about 25 (and especially in your teenage years) your brain still developing and any changes regular drug use makes to your brain's neurochemistry your brain actively grows and develops around. Weed, tabacco, and possibly classical psychedelics (needs more research?) can be good in some ways for the aging brain but regular use is distinctly BAD for the developing brain. Classical psychedelics promote neurogenesis on their own and form new pathways through the brain while active so the potential for them to rewire your shit in an undesirable way as a teenager is high.

Getting a little further out there: weed makes everything novel to your brain while you're high which is why it can promote strong ahedona on cessation of regular use. I would wonder if combining that with a growing brain and psychedelics you could have 'written' that ahedona into your teenage mind to some degree.

I don't know anything about pain and psychedelics so I can't speak to that.

I smoked on and off. Some trips I did drink and or smoke on. I'd say a third of the trips.

 

[ThatGuy767]

Weed is well-known for re-activating HPPD and throwing sufferers back into a 'trip'.

Were you also smoking during or after your other trips, or even regularly?

The short answer is that until about 25 (and especially in your teenage years) your brain still developing and any changes regular drug use makes to your brain's neurochemistry your brain actively grows and develops around. Weed, tabacco, and possibly classical psychedelics (needs more research?) can be good in some ways for the aging brain but regular use is distinctly BAD for the developing brain. Classical psychedelics promote neurogenesis on their own and form new pathways through the brain while active so the potential for them to rewire your shit in an undesirable way as a teenager is high.

Getting a little further out there: weed makes everything novel to your brain while you're high which is why it can promote strong ahedona on cessation of regular use. I would wonder if combining that with a growing brain and psychedelics you could have 'written' that ahedona into your teenage mind to some degree.

I don't know anything about pain and psychedelics so I can't speak to that.

I think it did write ahedona. I have cut back to 4 times a week. I'm a 20 atm. I'm really worried about my mind but it has been sharpening back to how it was. Its rough because I have a lot of social and family issues so many things that could of been different if things were just different but they're not and I should have risen above that as a teenager.

 

[ThatGuy767]

Weed is well-known for re-activating HPPD and throwing sufferers back into a 'trip'.

Were you also smoking during or after your other trips, or even regularly?

The short answer is that until about 25 (and especially in your teenage years) your brain still developing and any changes regular drug use makes to your brain's neurochemistry your brain actively grows and develops around. Weed, tabacco, and possibly classical psychedelics (needs more research?) can be good in some ways for the aging brain but regular use is distinctly BAD for the developing brain. Classical psychedelics promote neurogenesis on their own and form new pathways through the brain while active so the potential for them to rewire your shit in an undesirable way as a teenager is high.

Getting a little further out there: weed makes everything novel to your brain while you're high which is why it can promote strong ahedona on cessation of regular use. I would wonder if combining that with a growing brain and psychedelics you could have 'written' that ahedona into your teenage mind to some degree.

I don't know anything about pain and psychedelics so I can't speak to that.

But my point is is that I'm starting to feel pleasure again slowly but surely

 

[heatlessbbq]

As I psychologist... Many of My patients ask Me "Why?..."

Always expecting Me to answer [as the psychologist] for Them.
I do not have an answer. Only You can do that.

 

[heatlessbbq]

Good luck.

 

[DrumTripper]

This really sounds more like a stroke. It sounds like your brain is working around it, building alternate pathways.
The fact that it is improving is the one to focus on. You’ll probably continue to get better.

FWIW, my first trip was at 14. Didn’t break from acid until 25, now doing it again another three decades later.
Meditation should help, add a dab of yoga and see if it helps you get rid of inner tensions.

Past trauma can also manifest in myriad strange/painful ways. If that is relevant to you, talk to someone about that.
Luck and love to ya as you move thru this!

 

[tesseracts]

OP, I'm sorry to hear you're struggling with these kind of problems at such a young age. I think the most important question here is: Have you been to see a doctor about the change in mood and the neurological symptoms? If so, what did they say? I'm not talking about chiropractors or herbal medicine; that stuff is fine as a remedy for ailments but what you are describing may or not be serious and it may or may not be treatable so don't fuck around with anything but a real MD who can refer you to the appropriate specialist, probably a psychiatrist or neurologist.

I say this as someone who spent my teenage years with undiagnosed and untreated bipolar disorder, and it was an utterly miserable and terrifying experience. In retrospect I think early diagnosis could have made a big difference, if anything because I would have had some clarity. My parents thought psychiatrists were just for crazy psychotic people and all the counselors, school employees, and court officials were complete idiots about it and assumed it was all drugs even though I used very little back then.

From what you are describing, I don't think that the drugs caused your condition, but they may have triggered it. Your experience is not really within the complications you would expect from LSD alone. Theoretically, you could have overdosed on some RC substance, but I think an undiagnosed CNS condition is the culprit and it may not even have anything to do with the drugs, that could just be a coincidence. The fact that it seems to be improving is a good sign, but some of these things can be chronic relapsing disorders and often the long term prognosis is much better with early treatment, so don't waste any time finding a professional who is actually qualified to make a diagnosis.

I know you won't want to hear this but, until you find out what is going on I would avoid recreational as much as possible until you figure out what's wrong. It took me a long time to figure out what aggravates my bipolar and what doesn't (in moderation), and I can tell you there were many instances where I triggered a horrible manic or depressive episode that took years to get out of because I was fucking around with too much stimulants or depressants for too long, and my brain just couldn't maintain it's equilibrium when doused in chemicals for weeks at a time.

 

[TripSitterNZ]

Chiropractors are psudeoscience bullshit they are making things way worse stop seeing them and tell them fuck you for wrecking your body. LSD or mushrooms would not of done anything physically to you so dont stress over that probably just something else. You are going to feel fried for a while after doing psychedelics to often at a too young age. Stop smoking cannabis is only going to make you worse psychedelics change weed and make it really psychedelic and can trigger activate latent PTSD you might of gotten from tripping.

Take a entire year sober eating well stay out in nature go for walks / runs and exercise and meditate out in the forest. Nature never fails to heal me when i need a break from psychedelics and spend months off psychedelics sitting out in nature with all my spare time.

Losing control after smoking a blunt is not normal even for high levels of HPPD. You Might have the onset of schizophrenia cannabis and psychedelics will trigger this early but you were probably going to get it anyway if you do end up getting a professinal diangos on it.

LSD didn't ruin your life your are simply to young and lacking in knowledge to understand the full implications of what reality is and what is acutally going with LSD and shrooms. Psychedelics open your mind up to other quantum time space dimensions in this infinite multiverse. These experinces can be too much for a young western mind to handle and lands them up in some sort of psychosis as their mind breaks from this physical world and gets lost somewhere far out there across the time-space continuum.

Staying completely sober eating clean food and doing meditation and you will be back to normal within a year.

 

[blistersinthedark]

Chiropractors are psudeoscience bullshit

beat me to it lol

 

[Chris Timothy]

The classic psychedelics don't do direct physiological damage, but there are such things as the nocebo effect and the mind-body connection. Too much stress and/or negative emotion can end up physically manifesting in certain extreme cases, through various mechanisms, among which belief-mediated self-fulfilling prophecy.

Normally LSD is a great tool to heal psychosomatic pathology. But if it's been a contributing factor to begin with, then you're in a catch22 situation, and your best bet is indeed looking around what established medicine can do for you, and focus on any biopsychologically predetermined factors involved.

And indeed maybe even sample alternative (aka bullshit) medicine. If it's true that nocebo got you in, placebo might get you out. Be careful drawing scientific conclusions from it though (i.e. spinal LSD) or you'll keep getting slapped on the wrist.

 

[ThatGuy767]

Chiropractors are psudeoscience bullshit they are making things way worse stop seeing them and tell them fuck you for wrecking your body. LSD or mushrooms would not of done anything physically to you so dont stress over that probably just something else. You are going to feel fried for a while after doing psychedelics to often at a too young age. Stop smoking cannabis is only going to make you worse psychedelics change weed and make it really psychedelic and can trigger activate latent PTSD you might of gotten from tripping.

Take a entire year sober eating well stay out in nature go for walks / runs and exercise and meditate out in the forest. Nature never fails to heal me when i need a break from psychedelics and spend months off psychedelics sitting out in nature with all my spare time.

Losing control after smoking a blunt is not normal even for high levels of HPPD. You Might have the onset of schizophrenia cannabis and psychedelics will trigger this early but you were probably going to get it anyway if you do end up getting a professinal diangos on it.

LSD didn't ruin your life your are simply to young and lacking in knowledge to understand the full implications of what reality is and what is acutally going with LSD and shrooms. Psychedelics open your mind up to other quantum time space dimensions in this infinite multiverse. These experinces can be too much for a young western mind to handle and lands them up in some sort of psychosis as their mind breaks from this physical world and gets lost somewhere far out there across the time-space continuum.

Staying completely sober eating clean food and doing meditation and you will be back to normal within a year.

I almost feel like reversed whatever psychosis or schizophrenia that was about to take affect with vitamins herbs and working out and concentrating in making my mind back to normal

 

[ThatGuy767]

OP, I'm sorry to hear you're struggling with these kind of problems at such a young age. I think the most important question here is: Have you been to see a doctor about the change in mood and the neurological symptoms? If so, what did they say? I'm not talking about chiropractors or herbal medicine; that stuff is fine as a remedy for ailments but what you are describing may or not be serious and it may or may not be treatable so don't fuck around with anything but a real MD who can refer you to the appropriate specialist, probably a psychiatrist or neurologist.

I say this as someone who spent my teenage years with undiagnosed and untreated bipolar disorder, and it was an utterly miserable and terrifying experience. In retrospect I think early diagnosis could have made a big difference, if anything because I would have had some clarity. My parents thought psychiatrists were just for crazy psychotic people and all the counselors, school employees, and court officials were complete idiots about it and assumed it was all drugs even though I used very little back then.

From what you are describing, I don't think that the drugs caused your condition, but they may have triggered it. Your experience is not really within the complications you would expect from LSD alone. Theoretically, you could have overdosed on some RC substance, but I think an undiagnosed CNS condition is the culprit and it may not even have anything to do with the drugs, that could just be a coincidence. The fact that it seems to be improving is a good sign, but some of these things can be chronic relapsing disorders and often the long term prognosis is much better with early treatment, so don't waste any time finding a professional who is actually qualified to make a diagnosis.

I know you won't want to hear this but, until you find out what is going on I would avoid recreational as much as possible until you figure out what's wrong. It took me a long time to figure out what aggravates my bipolar and what doesn't (in moderation), and I can tell you there were many instances where I triggered a horrible manic or depressive episode that took years to get out of because I was fucking around with too much stimulants or depressants for too long, and my brain just couldn't maintain it's equilibrium when doused in chemicals for weeks at a time.

The doctors literally told me they dont know and they just let me go. That was it. And my chiropractor wont give me a referral to a neurologist because he thinks it is a waste of time

 

[SunriseChampion]

The doctors literally told me they dont know and they just let me go. That was it. And my chiropractor wont give me a referral to a neurologist because he thinks it is a waste of time

That's rich coming from a chiropractor.

Sorry to hear you're not having a good go of it. Are you able to see a different doctor?