Help! LSD first experience + Cannabis : Advices welcomed!

[Medevilx]

Hi all!

Everything is set and tomorrow 7:00 AM I’ll have my first experience ever with LSD.

Well, it is really 1V-LSD, but since it is my first experience with LSD, guess it doesn’t really matter.

I’m planning to do a 150mcg blotter. Set and setting seems to be great. I’m in a good mood and eager to experience and I have a great man cave with lots of things to do (nice music, vinyls, live concerts, movies, nebula galaxy multicolor projectors, instruments to play…. And beach is only 5 minutes walking, one of my favorite spots, so I’m planning to go if I feel to, early in the morning when there’s barely people. I’ll go here to stay in touch with nature, meditate and listen to some electronic music.

The thing is, I hope 150mcg is enough for a nice ride. I’ve experienced with 4-HO-MET and 4-HO-MiPT as well as with truffles, and common doses like 30mg or even 40mg of 4-HO-XXX didn’t do that much for me, mild visuals, little headspace…..so I always tend to use weed when I know I’m peaking and I feel the experience needs to be enhanced.

I want to experience LSD by itself as a substance, but since I seem to be not much reactive to common doses of other psychedelics, if I feel that 3/4 hours into the trip things are getting mild or little underwhelming, I’ll probably use weed to amplify effects.

Tryptamines by itself, so far, were underwhelming without weed, but with 0.50g of weed when peaking, the experiences were awesome.

I’m an almost daily cannabis user, started at 38 and I’ve never had a bad experience with weed in more than 7 years. Guess weed is like an old friend that takes you further by the hand when tripping on other substances. I’m very used to introspection and question myself and my mind meditating on cannabis, guess it can be helpful for dealing with the headspace produced by other substances (like happened to me with tryptamines)

What do you think about using weed with LSD if the trip is not thrilling enough? Of course, I’ll do one or two draws and wait for the effects, stepping carefully.

I’d love to hear your experiences and advices, as much as for the cannabis as for my first LSD experience.

I must say I’m happy and excited of finally trying acid.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Tryptamines by itself, so far, were underwhelming without weed.

Lysergamides are sort of the opposite. They are powerful enough on their own, and cannabis can make the experience overwhelming if you aren't careful or use too much.

I love the combo, it's my bread and butter, but I generally do not reach for cannabis until I start coming down around 8 hours later. I don't need it, I'm having a great time without it.

Take less than you normally would, trust me. One small hit is plenty, even if you have tolerance. It also can take like 10-15 minutes for you to really feel and appreciate how it potentiates LSD, so just take one hit at a time.

It makes the hallucinations much stronger, but can also add a bit of chaotic asmnesic stoniness.

I'm not all that familiar with 1V-LSD, but assuming it's just like all the other analogs/prodrugs, 150ug will give you quite the strong ride. That's a strong dose. Don't underestimate it.

 

[Medevilx]

Lysergamides are sort of the opposite. They are powerful enough on their own, and cannabis can make the experience overwhelming if you aren't careful or use too much.

I love the combo, it's my bread and butter, but I generally do not reach for cannabis until I start coming down around 8 hours later. I don't need it, I'm having a great time without it.

Take less than you normally would, trust me. One small hit is plenty, even if you have tolerance. It also can take like 10-15 minutes for you to really feel and appreciate how it potentiates LSD, so just take one hit at a time.

It makes the hallucinations much stronger, but can also add a bit of chaotic asmnesic stoniness.

I'm not all that familiar with 1V-LSD, but assuming it's just like all the other analogs/prodrugs, 150ug will give you quite the strong ride. That's a strong dose.

Thanks! That’s the kind of info I find really useful.

150mcg of 1V-LSD is like 120mcg of regular LSD (or so most people say), so it is like a common LSD dose.

I hope to have a nice ride with the LSD by itself, specially being a first experience…but my first try with 10mg (and the 20,30, and finally 40mg) of tryptamines where really underwhelming, barely visuals, barely headspace….just a little buzz (with 40mg I finally felt some of the effects)… until I hit my vape, then everything blasted and was great. I even think I had some ego dissolution with 30mg and 0.5g of vaped weed.

Indeed, these first experiences were kind of a preparation or psychedelic training to go for the first LSD experience.

I’ll only use weed if the 1V-LSD dosage makes the trip underwhelming, and for sure at least 3 hours after intake. If the trip is good, I’ll enjoy it and maybe I’ll try some weed in the comedown, when I feel the peak is gone and effects are disappearing.

 

[Jabberwocky]

LSD is the king, all hail. It's so much more fun and recreational than tryptamines, but it's also A LOT stronger pound for pound, and can be a bit psychologically intimidating the first time if you take high doses. But overall much smoother and less anxiety than tryptamines. I also find it much more medicinal and beneficial in my life, but that's subjective. I prefer LSD so much I would rather have 10 hits of LSD than a whole pound of mushrooms.

Welcome to it dude. I'm sure you'll have a great time.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

I'd strongly agree with Snafu leave out the cannabis for your first time, I say this as someone who adores LSD, and cannabis, and LSD and cannabis.

Cannabis potentiates LSD like nothing else, it isn't the same as mixing it with shrooms or 4-subs it's much loopier, almost like a different drug. If you do have to smoke wait until hour 6, it can still be confusing but you're much less likely to forget who you are than if you were to hit the bong while peaking.

150ug is plenty you'll have a great time.

LSD is the king, all hail.

Most psychedelics have strengths and weaknesses, some are fun some are therapy. Acid is whatever you want it to be all you need is the right dose and the right mindset.

I've heard Tetris described as the perfect game because there's no way to build on its mechanics that would meaningfully improve the game and nothing you could take away that wouldn't break it. Its perfectly balanced.

Same with acid. It's fucking perfect.

 

[Medevilx]

I'd strongly agree with Snafu leave out the cannabis for your first time, I say this as someone who adores LSD, and cannabis, and LSD and cannabis.

Cannabis potentiates LSD like nothing else, it isn't the same as mixing it with shrooms or 4-subs it's much loopier, almost like a different drug. If you do have to smoke wait until hour 6, it can still be confusing but you're much less likely to forget who you are than if you were to hit the bong while peaking.

150ug is plenty you'll have a great time.


Most psychedelics have strengths and weaknesses, some are fun some are therapy. Acid is whatever you want it to be all you need is the right dose and the right mindset.

I've heard Tetris described as the perfect game because there's no way to build on its mechanics that would meaningfully improve the game and nothing you could take away that wouldn't break it. Its perfectly balanced.

Same with acid. It's fucking perfect.

Thanks! Really appreciate your advices.

I’ve read A LOT about bad trips mixing LSD and Cannabis and I know I should tread lightly

Anyway, I’m absolutely not planning to do weed unless the LSD effects are very mild and underwhelming, like happened with my first doses of tryptamines. I got bored, tried weed just because I wanted to enjoy some as usual and then….Boom!

Only serious thoughts of using is in the come down, and only if I want to stretch the experience when the LSD effects are fading away.

I have many more trips ahead, so I’ll be cautious and try to enjoy the LSD by itself, I’m pretty sure I will.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

LSD is the king, all hail. It's so much more fun and recreational than tryptamines, but it's also A LOT stronger pound for pound, and can be a bit psychologically intimidating the first time if you take high doses. But overall much smoother and less anxiety than tryptamines. I also find it much more medicinal and beneficial in my life, but that's subjective. I prefer LSD so much I would rather have 10 hits of LSD than a whole pound of mushrooms.

Welcome to it dude. I'm sure you'll have a great time.

ALD-52 imo. but Cannabis is nice to have around but you ll notice not really needed. Kinda fuck's with the clearness of Lysergic's. so save it till the end fase, or be prepared to spend 10 x times as long preparing a hit and only feeling a bit more weird. And with no desire to prepare another one. is my experience.

Tryptamine's nauseate me so Cannabis anti-emetic's action is a plus, but the added intoxication?

 

[Deleted member 521610]

have a great trip. 150 ug a is a very solid dose.

Acid can take up to 3 hours to peak.

I use to smoke alot on trips in my earlier days, but i never do now.

most enjoyable way is to wait till your coming down from the acid and smoke up. Never smoke during the come up it leads to a confusion as the peak sits in.


my roughest rides on acid were from mixing cannabis. To much can send you over lol.

once only had 4 hits of the joint on around 75 ug half a tab at the peak and was on my ass for the next 3 hours waiting for the peak to end. It can really take the trip to next levels.

I prefer just acid by itself or mixed with ketamine, that way it keeps the lucid clear headed feeling of the lsd. though its very to end a trip smoking up eating candy and blasting music

 

[Bicycle Tripper]

Definitely wait until you're coming down before the weed gets involved. It's fun to mix lsd and weed in manageable amounts but one of the best things about lsd is the clear headed high you get, it's a shame to ruin it with weed. Can be fun for sure but in a more of a turbo-stoned way.

 

[Didgital]

Weed can bring back the entire trip right when you thought it was over.
Would agree, for first time, leave it out either completely or wait until the very tail of the L trip.

Let us know how it goes.

Yesterday I did some "strange" ketamine. I believe it was 2F-DCK or potentially FXE. (getting tested asap). I was finally coming down, and my roommate rolls a blunt.

I took more tokes than I mean to, but i was around toke 6, and I realized I was tripping harder than any other moment before. Full on OVE and could barely even talk.

Weed+psyches are great but... you better like both lol.

 

[iom]

I think your plans are fine given your experiences thus far. Everyone responds different to these things. When I smoke cannabis on a psychedelic, I don't typically feel anything like the normal cannabis high. Rather it mostly seems to just potentiate the trip for me. Furthermore, if my cannabis tolerance is not high, I tend to get blasted by weed all by itself, and so I'm already in the habit of titrating my weed consumption (including when smoking with other people) to avoid going too far. I just use extra care when I'm tripping.

 

[Didgital]

Hey you guys might be interested in this paper i just found. At bottom there is a graphic.

Anyway LSD and high dose cannabis was much more likely to trigger difficult experiences.

Psychedelic experience dose-dependently modulated by cannabis: results of a prospective online survey - Psychopharmacology

Rationale. Classic psychedelics are currently being studied as novel treatments for a range of psychiatric disorders. However, research on how psychedelics interact with other psychoactive substances remains scarce. Objectives The current study aimed to explore the subjective effects of...

link.springer.com

 

[Medevilx]

UPDATE: Full trip report and conclusions here https://www.bluelight.org/community...ions-be-careful-with-the-trip-a-ton©️.940186/

 

[Cream Gravy?]

Lots of us have used cannabis during our first acid trip, including myself.

And I would certainly not recommend it even 12 years after lol

Expect the unexpected.