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LSD as an effective stimulant

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bigstoag

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swim recently came in to contact with a large amount of lsd, several tt sheets. Swim ended up taking around 4 strips in 3 weeks and found some very interesting findings.

once your lsd tolerance is very high swim has found that if taken in large doses, i.e. what would be the equivalent of a normal dose with no tolerance, the psychedelic effects diminish. The peak is still intense but much shorter in duration, visuals are still there but to less of an extent.

it feels like your mind is completely sober, you only feel a body high. it makes you more alert way more focused and very task oriented. i would assume it would be like what microdosing feels like, but with visuals and and a nice body high

i found the effects very similar to prescribed ADD medication, but without the cracked out feeling you get and a much easier comedown.

I enjoy using acid as a stimulant a lot more than other common stimulants, although it is a huge waste of acid as you have to use massive amounts to achieve this effects, but if you have massive amounts of acid, why not try it?

can someone explain to me why this happens? i have some ideas as to why, but I'm not really educated in neuroscience so i thought it would be best to exclude my ideas.

just something interesting swim found so i thought i would post it
 
welcome to Bluelight! and just a heads up, we dont use SWIM here.

The most basic explanation is exactly what you mentioned, tolerance. As you bombard your neurons with this chemical, it downregulates, which causes the tolerance and the lack of intense visuals. Your brain also adapts to what happens often in your environment and body, so if you trip every day for three weeks, its going to adapt to that mindset and try its hardest to make some sort of equilibrium out of the situation. I know this is super basic, but sadly i am not educated on this specific topic thoroughly enough to dive deeper without making a fool of myself.

Nonetheless, i am curious as to if you had any "withdrawal" effects after your binge on LSD?
 
1) No SWIM on Bluelight, we know it's you, and it makes your posts less understandable.
2) I think it would be just acid tolerance building up, and then you only feel slight 5HT2a agonism plus some dopamine stimulation, which shouldn't be affected by tolerance. I'm not educated in neuroscience but I believe that serotonin wouldn't have anything to do with the alertness and "getting things done" feeling.
 
It is a stimulant at lower doses like micro doses, but you are better off just using caffeine or if you have to or are able to take them extremely low doses of dexedrine or adderall.
 
yeah the stimulant effect is there at 10-15 ug, similar to a cup of coffee in a sense.
 
HeadHigh said:
Nonetheless, i am curious as to if you had any "withdrawal" effects after your binge on LSD?
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I wouldn't say that I experienced very many withdrawal effects other than craving it every once in a while when I don't have weed

It has seem to effected my HPPD a bit though. Now on top of VS, afterimages, tracers, etc, I see slight visual distortions I.e. Movement and warping. This is made worse while smoking weed and consuming other substances.
I'm guessing this won't go away until my tolerance does
 
bigstoag said:
I wouldn't say that I experienced very many withdrawal effects other than craving it every once in a while when I don't have weed

It has seem to effected my HPPD a bit though. Now on top of VS, afterimages, tracers, etc, I see slight visual distortions I.e. Movement and warping. This is made worse while smoking weed and consuming other substances.
I'm guessing this won't go away until my tolerance does
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Naltrexone has helped my HPPD heaps!
 
Yeah i have heard many people complain about legitimately scary HPPD effects, and im sure going on LSD binges does not help that. I hope you find a way to get that tolerance down. LSD is one of those things you really need to respect. Not to say that you dont respect it, but i feel like binging on LSD and trying to use it for its stimulant properties is a bit useless. As mentioned above, it would be better if you used caffeine, kratom, yohimbine, or other natural stimulants for this purpose instead.
 
I don't get all the microdosing stuff. They are stimulants of all colors and flavours out there instead of wasting psychedelics and your tolerance for such a stupid task.

I prefer x1000 times my methylphenidate for focusing purposes, or amphetamine/meth/cocaine for stimulant recreational high (or staying awake). LSD low doses just make me nervous and feeling I wasted material, not good.

But I supose microdosing is the trend now and all the cool kids are doing it. It seems stupid for me. Stimulants for stimulation, depressors for depressing, psychedelics for tripping, dissociatives for disociating, etc etc... Except a low dose of 3-meo-pcp, that's probably better than any stimulant arround.
 
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But I supose microdosing is the trend now and all the cool kids are doing it
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I love Microdosin, it has improved my life in so many ways. I've been using ALD not LSD. Using it like this is more nootropic than stimulanting. I hope there are more studies done on the actual safety of using something like LSD in small doses several times a week.
 
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I love Microdosin, it has improved my life in so many ways. I've been using ALD not LSD. Using it like this is more nootropic than stimulanting. I hope there are more studies done on the actual safety of using something like LSD in small doses several times a week.
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Please, excuse me for my last post, I woke a bit grumpy today, and it's unfair to discard things just because it doesn't work for me, and in such a rude way.

The thing is all the microdosing stuff sounds like a scam for me, just like homeopathy. Using something in a below threshold dose, or so diluted in water that there isn't any active dose of anything in the solution works only by placebo effect. Expectations are a big deal on those therapies.

As an exceptical guy, I don't believe in anything that doesn't have got a scientific backup. I tried microdosing with different psychedelics and found myself sober as before, no improvements at all. And I can enjoy the subtleties of a low 3-meo-pcp/amphetamine/metylphenidate dose, but a low dose is not the same as an inactive dose.
 
i don't doubt placebo effect isn't involved in the positive effects of microdosing. i don't get why people discount placebo though? the power of placebo is quite strong and remarkable.

considering the hundreds of reports of the potential interesting beneficial effects of microdosing some psych substances i think it warrants further examination.

i personally noticed an alteration in my usual waking consciousness when i experimented with taking 15ug lsd every day for a couple weeks. e.g. i would be walking in the park and would suddenly start to laugh for no real reason, i just felt relaxed and happy in that moment, and for me it is rare for me to be so open/appreciative that way.
 
Yeah I've got no problems with microdosing, thinking about doing it today with maybe around 1/6 of an ALD-52 blotter, we'll see. I find it produces a very light and comfortable stimulant-style effect with no side effects, including mood lift and focus, and adds just a faint psychedelic sparkle to your thoughts.
 
I also don't doubt placebo plays a role. I start to feel the change in perception almost instantly, but that happens before I smoke or even before the morning coffee. It is almost like the brains way of preparing for whats to come. Placebo is powerful, which shows just how powerful our minds can be.

Yesterday I took my fourth microdose in 12 days, 12-16ug of ALD and went off to work. One of my coworkers complimented on the amount of work I was getting done. We work as a team on many small projects throughout the day, very repetitive stuff and I was waaaay ahead of schedule thanks to these little experiments. I am still concerned about the long term

May your days have that touch of Sparkle.

Edit: Also have not had any coffee in 13 days, which is a direct result of this. <3
 
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Psychedelic microdosing isn't quite as straightforward as a traditional stimulant. If I want to spend my day inwardly contemplating the various problems or challenges in my life, then a psychedelic microdose is a nice supplement. But if I want to stay focused and productive on the nuts-and-bolts of my job, then a microdose is actually distracting, because it pulls me out of my work and into reverie.
 
i love low dosed LSD for sociability/partying/going to the fair/festival.

it is definitely a more effective stimulant for ME because i do not play well with amphetamines and cocaine is too fiendy for me.

acid doesn't fuck w my erection, makes me smile and makes everything more interesting to look at :).
 
PotatoMan said:
i love low dosed LSD for sociability/partying/going to the fair/festival.

it is definitely a more effective stimulant for ME because i do not play well with amphetamines and cocaine is too fiendy for me.

acid doesn't fuck w my erection, makes me smile and makes everything more interesting to look at :).
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Agreed fully. Yeah one of the great things is that stimulants in general make it harder to, well, get hard. Which is ironic since they make you want to do it more. But LSD is amazing for sex, no interaction at all.

I also like the complete lack of any sort of jitters or comedown or crash or anything like that. Plus I still feel like me, not a dopamine or serotonin riddled version of me. I also like low-dose 3-MeO-PCP for the same purpose, it's like the perfect stimulant for me, I get a lowering of inhibitions, energy and motivation, without any of the negative side effects of, say, amphetamines, or cocaine.
 
For me, the most important contributing factor when using lysergimides as an effective stimulant is to take them infrequently and in small enough doses. Unlike speed whos full effects can be felt with or without sleep, with or without food, lysergimides will not be effective unless I am very properly prepared with enough sleep, food and exercise. If I take it while already exhausted it will produce very restless and uncomfortable feelings.
When rested and fed a very normal day can turn into an illuminated flow of effortless productivity which flows like dominoes and sleep is easily had when the ride is over.

Edit: Amphetamines mask exhaustion, lysergimides do not.
 
So can we summarize the dosage here, for microdose, recreational dose and high dose, and what is the overdosage for LSD
 
it varies per person, then it varies depending on previous dose size and when that was (tolerance)
Usually 1 tab gets you well stoned (up to every 5 or 6 days at most) and 2 gets you really totally stoned (up to once every week) , while a half gets you pretty stoned (as often as every 3rd day) and a quarter is a big microdose if you skip a day or two.
 
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