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(LSD/4.2 mg) Experienced: Insanity!

OxycontinAnonymous

OxycontinAnonymous

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So firstly I'll say this permanently altered my mind in both thought processes, and in being open minded and assured me there is a purpose to the universe so it was more positive than negative.

I used to live in the southwest and thought I had taken the best of the best stuff but moved to the west coast to soon be proven wrong. I eventually met a real 25 connect took a few test strips and decided to dive in with 1 mg. It started out with a surge of energy so strong I couldn't explain it. I was coming up really hard and heard a house song that said, "just keep pushing on things will get better" as a sign to finish the almost full half vial of 100 mic 25 right then and there. Just then the 1 mg dose started to tear at my ego I could feel it pulling from the inside of my gut litterally. I however was not afraid. I was happy to say goodbye to my selfishness, but had no idea what was in for me. When the eventual 3.2 mg started hitting I truly lost it but decided to go to a supposed legit outdoor show as outdoor shows are always chill. I walked out of my dorm to go meet my ride, there were cars honking people yelling all of which I thought was because my dose was radiating on them and they were high on acid too all cheering for me. A sense of super ego it was the last time I felt my ego until I came down.

half way on the car trip the other dose I took really charged up. I thought all the people in the car were high as shit on acid and told them to pull over and let me walk home . They told me they didn't trust me to make it safely which is good because I had no idea which way was which and probably would have walked into traffick. I got there, people tried talking to me and all my friends had to talk for me tell others I took too much acid. Almost immediately the party broke up by the police. I realized at this point I couldn't think I didn't know what I was. I didnt know how to get back to the car my friends helped me get out.

the visuals of real 25 you become very accustom too. they are extremely extremely crisp and very elaborate but they become something you almost don't notice because the head space pushes the visuals to the back of your mind. However eventually I was dropped back off at my dorm and decided to grasp my bed for dear life. Heres where the most intense experience happened. A second a flash of time lasted life times, I saw my birth my supposed death. I saw the cosmos for an eternity and then I don't remember if I zapped back or if it was a gradual process, but all of a sudden I was back on my bed. Keep in mind this whole trip was so filled with paranoia and left me paranoid for months I thought I had lost my mind I thought that yes, yes, I must be admitted to the psyche ward.

The morning of the second day I decided to get out of my room and walk around it turned out there was a huge farmers market. I viewed our community from a very outside view. I thought everyone knew I was loopy but didn't go back to my room.
Also I had a job training seminar with the census bureau on the third day after dosing I was totally positive I was gonna be faced for it. I did not know the address and certainly couldn't have answered any question at all. (coincidentally alot of people said they couldn't notice i was messed up..)

Anyway the trip lasted for well over a day and a half until sleep finally allowed me to grasp its hand. The next morning I woke up ready for my job training I made many mistakes on the forms I filled out as well that day. I wouldn't say I was tripping during this point but half tripping. Left some serious HPPD for awhile.

Also the whole time my friend kept offering to bring over klonopin which would have helped so much, but I had heard a friend a few days earlier who said he took acid and drank too much and wound up naked on a golf course. I assumed any downer at this time would lead me to a similar situation. In retrospective I am glad I made it the whole way and suffered the whole experience without a benzo chill down.

I know the part about lasting over a day and a half will lead skeptics to ask if this was really 25 but that much Lucy makes your duration way way longer.

Another cool visual when I was coming up on the full dose the rain would hit my window and my perception turned inwards with each drop until I was looking at myself looking out the window.
Cheers hope this interests someone.
 
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Heh heh, it's hilarious that you decided you'd better go catch a ride to a public event after finishing 4.2 mg. If you ever do it again, you'd probably be better off with 1.5 - 2 mg, as I've heard that's where LSD reaches a receptor saturation point for the 5HT2a receptor. Taking more than that will change the experience somewhat because LSD will bind more with many other receptors besides the ones thought to mediate psychedelia, but theoretically binding with these others is more likely to result in unwanted side effects than a deeper or more enjoyable trip.

The following is from wikipedia: "VERY IMPORTANT TO NOTE WHEN VIEWING THIS GRAPH: Ki Values are reported in such a way that the lower the number is, the higher affinity the structure has for the receptor. This means that the LOW values on the graph are the relevant information NOT the taller bars.

I created this file from public source data (http://pdsp.cwru.edu/pdsp.php). The black horizontal line represents the plasma level of LSD in humans during recreational use (Aghajanian & Bing, (1964) Clin. Pharmacol. Ther. 5, 611-614) and hence receptors which LSD has an affinity for above the line are unlikely to be affected by recreational LSD doses."

[I suspect many of those receptors a little above the line near the bottom were getting busy at your dose. You may have felt the effects of dosing more, but it was probably because you had not reached receptor saturation yet and dosing more increased the rate of the onset.]

LSDaffinities.GIF
 
I'm kinda surprised you were even functioning. I would assume you would just be zoning out on the floor with your eyes closed :)
 
I have dosed at the rage of 1mg to a supposed 6.25mg (25 hits of individual 250ug Hoffman doses, I knew the chemist, bought it from him). It's very hard to integrate the experience at those kinds of doses. I have left my body and had the most transcendental experiences of my life on high-dose LSD. I remember one time collapsing on 1.2mg LSD with 200mg MDMA, and although I thought it had been around 3 minutes, it turned out being around 3-3 1/2 hours. During this time I floated out of my body into space, and sat at a chrome-like round table floating in the cosmos. There were 16 of me sitting perfectly aligned around this table, with each 'me' communicating with the others at once. I interpreted 256 voices at once during this time, all of them speaking to me about my life, and my problems and how best to resolve them in order to move forward in life in the most beneficial way for myself. I don't remember a whole lot of what was said, but it was quite amazing, to say the least. I agree, the visuals, although crisp, clear and absolutely incredible, take a backseat to what is going on deep inside of my mind. It made clear that I could think this way forever. I have never been the same, and for years after the highest dose I ever took, I feel that I was quite crazy and illogical in my beliefs. Plus the HPPD. It has subsided a great degree, but that was over 5 years ago. I don't think I would ever want to push myself that far ever again. But I am more than thankful for the experience, as it overall changed me for the better.
Your story is totally awesome, and makes my mind hark back to my trips on high doses. I felt like I was almost there with you in your description. Bad-ass TR, I wish it were longer!
 
TheTwighlight said:
During this time I floated out of my body into space, and sat at a chrome-like round table floating in the cosmos. There were 16 of me sitting perfectly aligned around this table, with each 'me' communicating with the others at once. I interpreted 256 voices at once during this time, all of them speaking to me about my life, and my problems and how best to resolve them in order to move forward in life in the most beneficial way for myself. I don't remember a whole lot of what was said, but it was quite amazing, to say the least.
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Hmm, interesting. I've also had the selves sitting around a table discussing themselves vision. It preceded my first experience of ego death with DPT, but it didn't last long and I didn't get a count (if I had to guess I'd say six; though I presume the number doesn't matter since I feel it's just a visual metaphor the subconscious is projecting to communicate with the conscious self). I simply knew they were me and they were discussing themselves, I didn't hear anything. Anyways they were seated next to a large window at ground level and a field of tall grass and a night sky could be seen. I believe the window represented some kind of threshold to be crossed. Perhaps they were discussing sending me through it and decided it would be so.

I moved through the window towards the field, which was lit dimly by moonlight. Diaphanous tigers crisscrossed the scene and wound through the undergrowth. As I neared them their black stripes transformed into transparent fissures cut clean through their bodies so that the shadowy foliage behind them could be seen.

Here's the closest picture I could find to what I saw:
NSFW:
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Then, in one fractional moment, the wind parted the grass and the tiger's ruptured stripes marshaled in line so that I could suddenly see a great distance through both the tigers and the field. That world froze and I flew through the divide and into empty night. Everything turned inside out with a terrible ripping sound and an electric jolt, and I hovered above it as a bare locus hearing my own disbelieving utterances: "that was it!" "this is it!"--yet I provided no impetus to those words. They were the rustle of grass shifting in the wind.

Sorry to derail a bit, OP, but it's always fascinating when two people see roughly the same vision and understand it in a similar way.
 
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OxycontinAnonymous said:
4.2 Milligram Trip of lsd 25
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Wanna send me the other 800 mics?? lol for fuck sake that's a whopper dose, I would have been bed/couch/house-ridden for a day and a half at least. And you got out to party haha...

I have been over the 1mg mark, but only to about 1.2 that was plenty for me, and only something to do once every few years...

Glad you are ok, good read, could be paragraphed better IMO, but other than that, very entertaining story.

-Noddy
 
yeah when I had my transcendental experience where I lived life times I physically lived important moments in my life. I litterally was birthed. My death was caused by a person I know physically beating me to death with his fists and fist packers. I lived an indefinite amount of time in different lives. Then I remember a very multi colored tornado ripped me from that consciousness, I don't remember what happened after until I was on my bed.

in other news a week after this i dropped 150 mics got way farther out then I thought I would from that dose and sent myself to the hospital because I really thought I lost it. I'm not taking LSD right now or since then except a 50 mic dose 6 months later that prooved promising, but I definitely want to keep my sanity
so plan maybe one more trip when my mind is a little clearer. It still is recovering
 
yeah when I had my transcendental experience where I lived life times I physically lived important moments in my life. I litterally was birthed. My death was caused by a person I know physically beating me to death with his fists and fist packers. I lived an indefinite amount of time in different lives. Then I remember a very multi colored tornado ripped me from that consciousness, I don't remember what happened after until I was on my bed.

in other news a week after this i dropped 150 mics got way farther out then I thought I would from that dose and sent myself to the hospital because I really thought I lost it. I'm not taking LSD right now or since then except a 50 mic dose 6 months later that prooved promising, but I definitely want to keep my sanity
so plan maybe one more trip when my mind is a little clearer. It still is recovering
 
psood0nym said:
it's always fascinating when two people see roughly the same vision and understand it in a similar way.
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Hell yeah it is. Reminds me of a time my best friend and I took heroic doses of mushrooms and sat there staring at each other and communicating with our minds. Afterwards, we both sat down with paper and we had both talked about the same shit in our heads...wtf.
 
Damn this makes me want to trip even though i've had those insanity moments before. I had one experience where it definitely took me months to process. Ever since then I've been reluctant to trip, even though I have dozens of times since that weekend. I just have those same overwhelming thoughts creep up in my head as the trip starts. Brings back memories though!
 
In My first LSD trip i experienced what insanity really is. Insanity is a state of mind where you comprehend and process anything and everything to a point where everything ties together and it drives you crazy. You understand things your not supposed to understand. You understand everything but reality.
 
Good for you. You're more of a man than I'll ever be. Great read, thank you for sharing. :)
 
I can't even comprehend what a 4.2 mg trip would feel like. I mean I think my brain would exlode after 1 mg. Glad you made it back safely! Reading this makes me want to trip...
 
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