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LSA in alchohol

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shiam

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I read that the LSA's in hawaiian baby woodrose seeds are soluble in alchohol and in water so i got to thinking, would it be possible to grind up a heap of seeds and soak them in a bottle of drinkable alchohol (i was thinking absolut just because its my fave) to produce a psychedelic bottle of booze? my guess is that this would work but my question is more about dosage and solubility, so...
exactly how many doses could be dissolved into the alchohol? could you make it so that a shot would equal one dose or more?
and also could you do the same thing with mushrooms?

oh yeah and would the LSA's break down quickly or would it take a while if the bottle was stored in the fridge or freezer?

do you think it is even worth it?
 
Tried a simple one hour vodka and cold distilled water extraction from known potent HBWR seeds (powdered them first) and didn't get any huge effect except for some sedation, and I used a large amount... So, I'm not sure if this is worthwhile. Certainly tastes like shit, too.
 
did you get any nausia from the seeds?
i also read that the sedation is caused by LAA-111 (i think) which is the most soluble of all the LSA's in the seeds, any idea how to extract all of the good LSA's or on the other hand, any way to extract the rude shit out?
 
A really large elution chromatography column with liters of various mixed solvents might work. TLC could help identify anything that wasn't separated.

J. Alfred Prufrock might be able to offer more specific advice here.
 
shiam said:
did you get any nausia from the seeds?
i also read that the sedation is caused by LAA-111 (i think) which is the most soluble of all the LSA's in the seeds, any idea how to extract all of the good LSA's or on the other hand, any way to extract the rude shit out?
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I got horrible nausea/gastric pain from the seeds and only a little from the extraction.
 
my main issue with HBWR seeds is the nausia other than that i love them so what is the easiest and safest way to extract the nasty glycosides out? i think i read somewhere that naptha dissolves the glycosides? what are your oppinions on this?
 
Yeah, I too doubt the glycoside theory, simpley because I've never seen any proof of it.
 
so if a simple water or alchohol extraction only extracts the more sedative LSA's, does the acid-base extraction get all of them out?
 
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