Blowmonkey
Bluelight Crew
HBWR (LSA) - First time - Take caution, don't go overboard..
This all is very hard to write down and i don't really know where to begin. a while ago i had ordered, together with a friend (F), a lot of hbwr seeds, we planned on taking them in the near future. an other friend of mine (J), had also ordered hbwr, from another company, he reported no noticable effects, only thing was that he got a little bit stoneder as usual, this was from a high dose, don't really know how much, but it was 25 seeds approximately. the seeds came in at my friends house and he and another friend (A) decided to take them without me, i had no problems with this, as i was curious about the quality of the seeds. they both took fairly high doses, but reported not much, at least not much from what i've heard.. J who ordered the hbwr from the other company explained to me (he was there when they decided to take the seeds the first time) that they were just incredibly stoned, because he felt exactly the same thing, little did he know that this batch was high quality and that they tripped their asses off after he left. i didn't know this either and believed everything that J had said to me.
here's where it begins.. i didn't have any plans for this evening and spoke to F on the internet, he invited me to come over and watch a movie, i thought it was a good idea, so i inclined. after a long bike trip to my uncle to provide our asses with weed, i went over to meet up with F and another friend (M) of his who i don't really know all too well. we were waiting on A to finish his job and a joint and 45 minutes later, A came out of the building and we went over to F's place to spend the evening.
after browsing on bluelight and some joints later, F reminded me of the acquired substances, the peganum harmala and the hbwr seeds. i was fairly happy, but expected the seeds to be larger and thought that this could never be that many, it looked like nothing. i laid 22 seeds on the table and started chewing on one, just to see how bad the taste was. hard seeds, first it was just fine, but after chewing a little longer, the bitter, filthy taste increased.
the idea was to watch lotr 2, but after 5 minutes we switched to 1. F started asking too many questions, it was his first time seeing a part of the trilogy and he didn't understand what was happening in the second part. i was still sitting behind the pc, staring at the seeds and suggesting we should roll another joint, a big joint. in the meantime i was chewing the remaining seeds, aiming for 15, but ended up eating 17. made my decision based upon the experiences of my friends. thought it was a quality vs. quantity deal, many weak seeds for almost nothing. yeah.. sure..![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
so i've finished my seeds, still rolling that big joint, waiting for something to happen.. after a while i finally finished the joint, so naturally we smoked it. i took place in a chair to watch the movie and really thought, aw fuck it, this isn't going to work, so i ate the other 5. after an hour or an hour and a half after eating the first 17, i started to feel something, but it was mild, just stoneder as usual. pretty neat, but it wasn't what i was hoping for. so, another joint (yes, i know it looks like much, but i was rolling most of the time, the other guys were holding back or something, saving their weed for later, so it was up to me
) was in order. the trip was still building, but with subtle changes, getting weird body vibrations, sudden shocks, almost electric, but pleasant.
2 hours into the trip and the movie, i started to get really sedated, heavily, but also pleasant, i was more quiet and was totally getting into the movie. F rolled another joint and thought he was going to smoke it on his own, but i insisted on smoking it together, since i still had the need to strengthen my trip. getting these strange body rushes again, only this time much stronger, it was overwhelming but still nice, i once experienced the same thing on a high dose of mushrooms, so i wasn't alarmed, but amused.
now it was getting strange, the trip was coming on strong. the movie was almost finished ( 2 1/2 hours) and the atmosphere was getting me down, it was the sad part in the end where one of the guys died (was it isildur..?), i didn't follow it, couldn't process the images fast enough, just thinking, thinking what and why everyone was so sad, i was getting sad too, not because of the movie, but solely because of the atmosphere. just to try and get my mind of off things i started to roll a joint, i started seeking everywhere, but it was hard to recollect where i had put my stuff. took me 5 minutes to gather everything and to make an attempt to roll something, it took me a long time again. i was distracted by everyone around me, they were making sniffing noises and were being really quiet, it freaked me out.
this where i't starts to get intense (~3 hours), i quickly folded the paper and licked the half rolled joint to finish it. the movie was finally over, i was delighted, it made me a bit happy again, but i was so sedated that it didn't feel right, not anymore, only confusion. i lit the joint, took one drag and put it out again. no need anymore to smoke anything, tripping hardcore right now. then, in a sudden flash, everything went wrong, my brain was being overloaded, it hurt, my body felt weak and i felt cold and hot at once. i stood up, rapidly, trying to get out the words, everyone thought it was hilarious (i'm quite the joker, but this time it was serious) and they where laughing. i shouted random words; "NOT.. GOOD.. TOO MUCH.. TOO MUCH.." that was everything that would come out.
i was trying to tell them that it wasn't good, that i've consumed too much of these seeds and was od'ing on the cyanide glucosides, at least that's what i thought and it surely felt like it. it actually felt like i was dying and was convinced i was going to die if i didn't do something about it. i considered to tell them to call 112 (same thing as 911) and get me to a hospital, but i felt like that wasn't the best idea and didn't want to explain this to anyone. i stumbled downstairs and mumbled that someone should come with me if it went out of hand. A came along and i walked around just to keep myself busy, i went outside and started walking in circles, couldn't feel my body anymore, but only my head and it was hurting. laid down on the cold ground and asked A if he could keep talking, it was soothing. it pretty much worked and i got my mind a bit of off the intoxication again. F came down and said that i should come inside because the neighbors are not the nicest people and i was behaving a bit strange, was talking too loud (can't remember actually) etc.
it started to come over me again and i have totally no recollection of some things that happened, amnesia was great, it felt like i was near an ego death, but if i had accepted this ego death, i was convinced of it that i would actually die, my body could no longer handle this sensation. my thoughts where out of this world, if i was asked something, i said something back that didn't make sense. i wanted to, but had no control over it, just replied with total nonsense. i found myself outside, don't know how long had passed, but F and M where asking me if i would come along to walk the dogs, i kindly said no and went upstairs together with A (~4 hours). i laid down upon a matras and wished it all went away, i felt like a little child wanting his mother to come and help him, i needed help and didn't want to die. i was so scared that this was it, that i had finally done it to myself.. i felt like gonzo from fear and loathing, in the bath tub, acting like an idiot. both driven insane by the intensity from a trip.
boy what was i lucky i remained somewhat calm and didn't freak out completely. it was a bit under control now, but still not gone, no fun, but a sinister, dark, dream like state. you could say it was a nightmare.. the whole evening long i didn't have any visuals, just the ones you get from weed, only a bit more pronounced, my vision was a bit swaying, not morphing, but very mild moving of objects, a bit shocking movements, but only if i focused on the stuff i noticed the visuals. maybe i had insane visuals, but didn't pay attention to them since i was more concerned of my well being. i don't think that lsa is a very visual experience at all, but more of a brain movie state (what a nice way to put it), projecting random images on your brain sort of the same as (day)dreaming. but i don't really care if i had visuals or not, i'm glad i survived it.
sleeping was very hard, my breathing was very shallow and it felt like my heart was beating irregular, i thought that if i would go to sleep that i would stop breathing. paranoia was controlling my mind again, but this subsided after an hour or so, i was able to sleep at 4 in the morning. i woke up still tripping, 2 1/2 hours or so later, all my clothes still on. i struggled to get them out and tried to go back to sleep, i wondered where i had put all my stuff, but just collapsed out of exhaustion.
woke up again at 11 am, needed to take a piss and was extremely dehydrated. eyes were bloodshot, sore muscles, looking very pale and overall very weak. i was cold and got dressed, switched matrasses, one near the heating system. still feeling the after effects of last night, very worn out and fell asleep again till everyone woke up 2 hours later. still tired, not able to have conversations without having to think hard before i said something, speech slurred and a headache that's still around even now (3 days later). took an aspirin (apap) with 20 mg codeine, it helped a little bit, but still a weird push on my head, a pressing feeling. went home at 3 and when i came home i rolled the joint i had saved earlier, just in case and thankfully it was still around when i needed it the most. passed out and slept till 8, woke up again a couple of times, but felt refreshed after my sleep. still having that headache, but i don't care, it's not that bad.
this trip was a little bit on the rough side. i expected this to be a nice evening, not expecting a NDE, it surely felt like one. never again will i make such a mistake, i always was cautious with what i do to myself, but this wasn't expected. the rule that every person reacts differently to a drug is now imprinted in my memory, i will never make a judgement based upon other people's doses, never again. start low and don't ever redose the first time trying a new substance, i got sloppy and did anyway, never had such a rough trip, bad at the time, but consider it a positive one now. i've learned from this one, learned A LOT..
edit: spelling corrected.. it's because i'm stoned..
and thanks for reading this long ass report people !!
This all is very hard to write down and i don't really know where to begin. a while ago i had ordered, together with a friend (F), a lot of hbwr seeds, we planned on taking them in the near future. an other friend of mine (J), had also ordered hbwr, from another company, he reported no noticable effects, only thing was that he got a little bit stoneder as usual, this was from a high dose, don't really know how much, but it was 25 seeds approximately. the seeds came in at my friends house and he and another friend (A) decided to take them without me, i had no problems with this, as i was curious about the quality of the seeds. they both took fairly high doses, but reported not much, at least not much from what i've heard.. J who ordered the hbwr from the other company explained to me (he was there when they decided to take the seeds the first time) that they were just incredibly stoned, because he felt exactly the same thing, little did he know that this batch was high quality and that they tripped their asses off after he left. i didn't know this either and believed everything that J had said to me.
here's where it begins.. i didn't have any plans for this evening and spoke to F on the internet, he invited me to come over and watch a movie, i thought it was a good idea, so i inclined. after a long bike trip to my uncle to provide our asses with weed, i went over to meet up with F and another friend (M) of his who i don't really know all too well. we were waiting on A to finish his job and a joint and 45 minutes later, A came out of the building and we went over to F's place to spend the evening.
after browsing on bluelight and some joints later, F reminded me of the acquired substances, the peganum harmala and the hbwr seeds. i was fairly happy, but expected the seeds to be larger and thought that this could never be that many, it looked like nothing. i laid 22 seeds on the table and started chewing on one, just to see how bad the taste was. hard seeds, first it was just fine, but after chewing a little longer, the bitter, filthy taste increased.
the idea was to watch lotr 2, but after 5 minutes we switched to 1. F started asking too many questions, it was his first time seeing a part of the trilogy and he didn't understand what was happening in the second part. i was still sitting behind the pc, staring at the seeds and suggesting we should roll another joint, a big joint. in the meantime i was chewing the remaining seeds, aiming for 15, but ended up eating 17. made my decision based upon the experiences of my friends. thought it was a quality vs. quantity deal, many weak seeds for almost nothing. yeah.. sure..
so i've finished my seeds, still rolling that big joint, waiting for something to happen.. after a while i finally finished the joint, so naturally we smoked it. i took place in a chair to watch the movie and really thought, aw fuck it, this isn't going to work, so i ate the other 5. after an hour or an hour and a half after eating the first 17, i started to feel something, but it was mild, just stoneder as usual. pretty neat, but it wasn't what i was hoping for. so, another joint (yes, i know it looks like much, but i was rolling most of the time, the other guys were holding back or something, saving their weed for later, so it was up to me
) was in order. the trip was still building, but with subtle changes, getting weird body vibrations, sudden shocks, almost electric, but pleasant. 2 hours into the trip and the movie, i started to get really sedated, heavily, but also pleasant, i was more quiet and was totally getting into the movie. F rolled another joint and thought he was going to smoke it on his own, but i insisted on smoking it together, since i still had the need to strengthen my trip. getting these strange body rushes again, only this time much stronger, it was overwhelming but still nice, i once experienced the same thing on a high dose of mushrooms, so i wasn't alarmed, but amused.
now it was getting strange, the trip was coming on strong. the movie was almost finished ( 2 1/2 hours) and the atmosphere was getting me down, it was the sad part in the end where one of the guys died (was it isildur..?), i didn't follow it, couldn't process the images fast enough, just thinking, thinking what and why everyone was so sad, i was getting sad too, not because of the movie, but solely because of the atmosphere. just to try and get my mind of off things i started to roll a joint, i started seeking everywhere, but it was hard to recollect where i had put my stuff. took me 5 minutes to gather everything and to make an attempt to roll something, it took me a long time again. i was distracted by everyone around me, they were making sniffing noises and were being really quiet, it freaked me out.
this where i't starts to get intense (~3 hours), i quickly folded the paper and licked the half rolled joint to finish it. the movie was finally over, i was delighted, it made me a bit happy again, but i was so sedated that it didn't feel right, not anymore, only confusion. i lit the joint, took one drag and put it out again. no need anymore to smoke anything, tripping hardcore right now. then, in a sudden flash, everything went wrong, my brain was being overloaded, it hurt, my body felt weak and i felt cold and hot at once. i stood up, rapidly, trying to get out the words, everyone thought it was hilarious (i'm quite the joker, but this time it was serious) and they where laughing. i shouted random words; "NOT.. GOOD.. TOO MUCH.. TOO MUCH.." that was everything that would come out.
i was trying to tell them that it wasn't good, that i've consumed too much of these seeds and was od'ing on the cyanide glucosides, at least that's what i thought and it surely felt like it. it actually felt like i was dying and was convinced i was going to die if i didn't do something about it. i considered to tell them to call 112 (same thing as 911) and get me to a hospital, but i felt like that wasn't the best idea and didn't want to explain this to anyone. i stumbled downstairs and mumbled that someone should come with me if it went out of hand. A came along and i walked around just to keep myself busy, i went outside and started walking in circles, couldn't feel my body anymore, but only my head and it was hurting. laid down on the cold ground and asked A if he could keep talking, it was soothing. it pretty much worked and i got my mind a bit of off the intoxication again. F came down and said that i should come inside because the neighbors are not the nicest people and i was behaving a bit strange, was talking too loud (can't remember actually) etc.
it started to come over me again and i have totally no recollection of some things that happened, amnesia was great, it felt like i was near an ego death, but if i had accepted this ego death, i was convinced of it that i would actually die, my body could no longer handle this sensation. my thoughts where out of this world, if i was asked something, i said something back that didn't make sense. i wanted to, but had no control over it, just replied with total nonsense. i found myself outside, don't know how long had passed, but F and M where asking me if i would come along to walk the dogs, i kindly said no and went upstairs together with A (~4 hours). i laid down upon a matras and wished it all went away, i felt like a little child wanting his mother to come and help him, i needed help and didn't want to die. i was so scared that this was it, that i had finally done it to myself.. i felt like gonzo from fear and loathing, in the bath tub, acting like an idiot. both driven insane by the intensity from a trip.
boy what was i lucky i remained somewhat calm and didn't freak out completely. it was a bit under control now, but still not gone, no fun, but a sinister, dark, dream like state. you could say it was a nightmare.. the whole evening long i didn't have any visuals, just the ones you get from weed, only a bit more pronounced, my vision was a bit swaying, not morphing, but very mild moving of objects, a bit shocking movements, but only if i focused on the stuff i noticed the visuals. maybe i had insane visuals, but didn't pay attention to them since i was more concerned of my well being. i don't think that lsa is a very visual experience at all, but more of a brain movie state (what a nice way to put it
), projecting random images on your brain sort of the same as (day)dreaming. but i don't really care if i had visuals or not, i'm glad i survived it.sleeping was very hard, my breathing was very shallow and it felt like my heart was beating irregular, i thought that if i would go to sleep that i would stop breathing. paranoia was controlling my mind again, but this subsided after an hour or so, i was able to sleep at 4 in the morning. i woke up still tripping, 2 1/2 hours or so later, all my clothes still on. i struggled to get them out and tried to go back to sleep, i wondered where i had put all my stuff, but just collapsed out of exhaustion.
woke up again at 11 am, needed to take a piss and was extremely dehydrated. eyes were bloodshot, sore muscles, looking very pale and overall very weak. i was cold and got dressed, switched matrasses, one near the heating system. still feeling the after effects of last night, very worn out and fell asleep again till everyone woke up 2 hours later. still tired, not able to have conversations without having to think hard before i said something, speech slurred and a headache that's still around even now (3 days later). took an aspirin (apap) with 20 mg codeine, it helped a little bit, but still a weird push on my head, a pressing feeling. went home at 3 and when i came home i rolled the joint i had saved earlier, just in case and thankfully it was still around when i needed it the most. passed out and slept till 8, woke up again a couple of times, but felt refreshed after my sleep. still having that headache, but i don't care, it's not that bad.
this trip was a little bit on the rough side. i expected this to be a nice evening, not expecting a NDE, it surely felt like one. never again will i make such a mistake, i always was cautious with what i do to myself, but this wasn't expected. the rule that every person reacts differently to a drug is now imprinted in my memory, i will never make a judgement based upon other people's doses, never again. start low and don't ever redose the first time trying a new substance, i got sloppy and did anyway, never had such a rough trip, bad at the time, but consider it a positive one now. i've learned from this one, learned A LOT..
edit: spelling corrected.. it's because i'm stoned..
and thanks for reading this long ass report people !!
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) Anyway, for me with meditating and little smoking, I had a verry positive experience, with verry good ''brain-movies'' and revelations about the center of all. Though for me the open-eye visuals with LSA never really get extreme. More as if the world has changed. but nothing is morphing or anything, it just IS.
) and sleep is often wonderfull afterwards. (Libido actually fell asleep unnoticed during his trip and only rememberd after I woke him up).
