RCs Low dose MDPV as a coffee replacement?

[immad]

On work days, I usually drink 2x half a cup of coffee (yes, I'm sensitive to caffeine).

Since caffeine usually does the trick, but can be quite jittery, I'm investigating alternatives. Candidates are methylphenidate, dexamphetamine, MDPV, ethcat, modafinil and possibly others. Does anyone have experience with low dose ( - 5 mg, spread out over the day) MDPV consumption? How did it effect you long term? Did you notice any change in personality? Did you develop significant tolerance?

PS: these may be famous last words, but please do not consider addiction. It took me 4 years to finish one gram of good cocaine and I have never had problems with the peevee as well, so I'm not afraid in that regard.

 

[sailor bugg]

Really these kinds of stimulants are quite powerful, I don't think it's wise to replace coffee with any of these.

 

[immad]

I know they're powerful, that's why I would keep the dosage very low and spread out through the day. My goal is not to get high, but to improve cognitive functioning.

 

[sean107]

modafinil maybe but otherwise urmad.

 

[sekio]

MDPV is probably the worst possible replacement for caffeine you can take.

 

[P.o.T.u.S]

Coffee and mdpv should not even be spoken in the same sentence ..it will start at low dosage but tolerance will sneak up and before u know it your in the middle of your house naked trying to listen for the sirens not moving because this time the swat team is def coming..mdpv is BAD news

 

[nickfurry]

Bulletproof Vest Coffee™. Cause the shadow people are coming for you!

 

[nickfurry]

Would be a hilarious reality show by the way. Bunch of people, any people, locked in a house but their coffee is spiked with peevee.

 

[LSDMDMA&AMP]

Isnt low dose mdpv an oxymoron

 

[immad]

No, I've had ad libidum access to MDPV for years, but I guess 90% of the total session dosages were not higher than 15 mg. Sessions were not that frequent either. I even used a couple of mg at work before, which worked quite well, actually.

I guess I'm pretty sensitive to caffeine, I have to take quite a bit of MDPV to get me as anxious as two cups of coffee.

Anyway, the highest/longest I ever dosed on MDPV was 2 days and the night in between in a row, for study, like 6 years ago. Especially at the end, the only thing I could think of was sleep, but I had to keep going before I finally got home. This definitely was an outlier session. Sleep >>>> MPDV by far.

Anyway, did anyone actually try this before?

 

[cousinskeeter]

Anyway, the highest/longest I ever dosed on MDPV was 2 days and the night in between in a row, for study, like 6 years ago. Especially at the end, the only thing I could think of was sleep, but I had to keep going before I finally got home. This definitely was an outlier session. Sleep >>>> MPDV by far.

That should be your red flag. Coffee is not intended to transport you 48+ hours into the future like you are Doc Brown, even in an outlier session. Listen to what everyone else said, HORRIBLE idea.

If you are sensitive to caffeine..... drink less caffeine! And spread it out a bit better. Or make one of your cups decaf. Seriously that will solve the problem.

Take MDPV in the morning, you'll end up at work building a fort under your office desk with Marty McFly so the secret cameras that your boss installed can't see you.

 

[iodo]

This is a terrible idea, the duration is wayyy too long and redosing will be imminent

I'd say d-amp would be closer to what you want. I've long been searching for a caffeine replacement and dexedrine is the only one that doesn't seem to be too crazy, but is still enough to keep me working. I use 10-20mg when I want to get work done.

 

[speedballs_over]

Find your sweet spot for sleep and try to get it at least five nights a week. Exercise everyday, at minimum 5 days a week, 30 minutes. I do these two things now, hadn't for years, found it helps tremendously with a bunch of emotional issues - stress, anxiety, depression, fatigue... and much else. I am going to write about compunds below...

If you must use a compound to help with alertness, and I agree there are some situations where it's appropriate considering our societies' ridiculously demanding work schedules and pressure to be socially active, we are becoming a society of even adults developing ADHD b/c of our environment, environmental pollutants, and habits not organic brain disease, imo.

I'm going to suggest what others have but a different twist - d-amp., taken in the awesome, one capsule a day for 10 - 14 hour of steady d-amp dose, done properly you will sleep well, if not exercise more or reduce dose, have proper sleep hygiene and you'll find it's the best stimulant for functionality available, period. That's my semi-informed opinion. Look into it. It's for ADHD or whatever, see your doc and tell him what your situation is, if it is a focus and impulsive actions issue then you might fit the criteria. I can't say anymore without breaking the rules, if I haven't already. Get it legit, and use it legit and you'll be fine.

Best wishes, and leave the RC stims to the kids who want to be in diapers in ten years...

 

[nickfurry]

For a more serious answer to the OP, you could try each of methylphenidate, amphetamine and modafinil and see if any of them works for you. They all have reasonable safety profiles in low doses, unlike ethcathinone which is probably cardiotoxic among other things.

I've gotten the impression that methylphenidate works for some people, amphetamine for others.

Perhaps you also want to look into the piracetam nootropics. I believe the idea is that they work by upregulating your receptors rather than stimulating them. Some of them have even been clinically studied in humans, which can never be a bad thing.

 

[immad]

Find your sweet spot for sleep and try to get it at least five nights a week. Exercise everyday, at minimum 5 days a week, 30 minutes. I do these two things now, hadn't for years, found it helps tremendously with a bunch of emotional issues - stress, anxiety, depression, fatigue... and much else. I am going to write about compunds below...

I pay close attention to getting at least 8 hours a night. A night shorter than 7 hours is quite short for me and does not happen all that often.

That should be your red flag. Coffee is not intended to transport you 48+ hours into the future like you are Doc Brown, even in an outlier session. Listen to what everyone else said, HORRIBLE idea.

If you are sensitive to caffeine..... drink less caffeine! And spread it out a bit better. Or make one of your cups decaf. Seriously that will solve the problem.

Take MDPV in the morning, you'll end up at work building a fort under your office desk with Marty McFly so the secret cameras that your boss installed can't see you.

Well, the longest I ever stayed up was on shitloads of caffeine, 2,5 days (and the two nights in between). I really hated it, so I hardly ever skip nights anymore.

I also carefully plan my sessions of whatever drug, so I know at what time I can sleep and how this fits my schedule.

For a more serious answer to the OP, you could try each of methylphenidate, amphetamine and modafinil and see if any of them works for you. They all have reasonable safety profiles in low doses, unlike ethcathinone which is probably cardiotoxic among other things.

I've gotten the impression that methylphenidate works for some people, amphetamine for others.

Perhaps you also want to look into the piracetam nootropics. I believe the idea is that they work by upregulating your receptors rather than stimulating them. Some of them have even been clinically studied in humans, which can never be a bad thing.

I tried all of them, but methylphenidate sometimes turns me into a feelingless robot (which can be productive, but is not good for contact with colleagues). Modafinil does not really improve focus for me. Dexamphetamine definitely does, but can cause me to have too much energy to sit still. Still, the focus from it is very nice.

Anyway, yesterday I took two small oral doses of MDPV at work. I estimate them to be <2 mg, but I did not yet dissolve the MDPV for liquid measurement, so I'm not 100% sure. No redosing ensured, neither did other problems occur. It seemed to leave me with less stress in the evening than when drinking coffee.