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Stimulants Low dose adderall and cardiovascular safety?

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I was wondering how safe low dose adderall is on the heart? I'm talking about 5-10 mgs max for studying only. I drink caffeine regularly but sometimes I do get the occasional palpitation.. Especially if I mix energy drinks with cannabis. I have had 2 ekgs in the last year to try and find the reason for palpitations but they came back normal. Would it be all that risky to take 5-10 mgs two or three times a week? What would the potential risks be?
 
Does anyone know if it is really any worse than caffeine at that dose? I just want something to help me focus in class a little better with few peripheral side effects and as least taxing on the heart as possible.
 
Checkout this thread.

Also, this thread.

At that low dose it's not going to be that hard, but if you want something that's less taxing on your heart, I would use Dexedrine instead since it lacks the levo-amphetamine responsible for the nasty Peripheral Nervous System (PNS) side effects, which likely strains your heart more.
 
although levo amp causes you to feel nasty, it does work for add pretty well IME. Adderall has little rec value though, its only good if your trying to stay awake and energetic when youre out partying or something. also goes nice with benzos or alcohol, although probably not as safe as i would like to believe. i second tricomb, get yourself some dexedrine, or desoxyn if you can, they have far less side effects, and are all-round better drugs, recreational or for ADD. desoxyn causes very little stress on your heart from what ive heard, at least in comparison to other stims. its also much longer lasting, and has a gnetle crash, if any. also, for some reason, Adderall makes me want to redose after i start to come down from the IR tablets, while dexedrine and desoxyn do not. I would reccomend against vyvanse, simply because it doesnt really work well for ADD, in fact it makes me more ADD than normal, and sedates me quite a bit. also it gives an irittating dry mouth that wont go away no matter how much water you drink.
Desoxyn and dexedrine are the two meds that you want. IMO the d-isomer of any stimulant is the kind you want, so if possible, push for that, as they are safer, more pleasant, and have much less side effects and impulse to redose. they also are more relaxing then they are stimulating, desoxyn can sometimes feel like a speedball at times depending on ROA and your brain chemistry.
 
Thanks for all the information guys! I've got an appt on thursday to discuss options with my doctor. I will definitely push for Dexedrine or desoxyn. I am not looking for any rec value anyways, strictly to help with school. I am much more of a downer person for recreational purposes lol. Which of the two is more likely to be prescribed? And Is there much difference in effect between the two?
 
Desoxyn is much more relaxing and euphoric, as well as significantly longer lasting. The euphoria lasts throughout the entire duration, longer than the actual stiimulation, and is quite pleasant.There are very few side effects and the crash is virtually nonexistant. If you notice you get tired on ADD meds, you might wanna go with something else, as this can get me nodding, especially if used rectally or IV (DONT IV!! ITS DANGEROUS, BAD FOR YOU AND RISKY!!). It's better for people who are also hyperactive in addition to attention deficit. I am only ADD, so desoxyn isnt a good ADD med for me, at least not all the time. I use desoxyn mainly recreationally.

Dexedrine is basically adderall with less side effects, due to the absence of L-amp. For some reason, my first experience with this drug was one of the most euphoric highs ive ever been on, surpassing that of many of my coke, meth, and mdma experiences. It is the standard (at least IMO) for ADD meds. You still get some of the sleepiness/relaxation, and a bit of euphoria, as well as more pronounced side effects than desoxyn. It lasts about half as long as desoxyn, and is my ADD med of choice.

Also, if your doc tries to recomend ritalin or focalin or any MPH formulation, do not accept. it has ten times more side effects than desoxyn, lasts an 8th as long, works soo much less and also gives a strong impulse to redose, at least IME. It is the worst drug ive ever used, just not worth you're time. REALLY push for dexedrine or desoxyn, dont let him sell you some bullshit stim that doesnt work and makes you feel like shit. Methylphenidate works against ADD rather than to treat it IME. If he offers you ritalin or nothing, take nothing. im serious.
 
Well caffeine at very high doses does cause an increase in heart rate too. In the short term taking a low dose 2-3 times a week won't be too bad, but don't take it if you don't need it. In the long run you likely want to be free from the drugs to feel and function at an optimum level.
 
SuperPump250 said:
Well caffeine at very high doses does cause an increase in heart rate too. In the short term taking a low dose 2-3 times a week won't be too bad, but don't take it if you don't need it. In the long run you likely want to be free from the drugs to feel and function at an optimum level.
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yeah but proportionally, the dose required to match the cardiovascular stress caused by levo amp is wayy too much. 5 mg levo amp = maybe 300-400mgs caffeine. if that. you cant compare caffeine with amphetamines, its apples and oranges, but to such a higher extent. amphetamines are euphoric and quite powerful, while caffeine is as mild as it gets.
 
aidandogg said:
lol ur fucking fine dude... I've done 40mgs on no tolerance/for my first amphed experience with a cigarette and a red bull and I felt like everything was made of metal and it was just a massive euphoria lol but yeah... So your totally fine! Im on record for having a naturaly high heart rate etc and all that good stuff and i've been WAY fine on any high dose of stimulants. Stims have a reaaalllyyyy high OD/problematic dosage in fact... once did 200 mgs of dexmethylphenidate "by accident" and the only bad thing was i didnt sleep for 3 days, but after the effects wore off and the comedown was done, i was chill again. have fun :)
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200mgs of dexmethylphenidate would keep me awake for like 3 hours tops...

That stuff is shorter lasting than coke, and if you eat it, you get less buzzed than from caffeine.

It's also terrible for your heart.
 
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