Looking for dosing / redosing advice

[evidos]

Hi ! I am planning on bombing MDMA next month (4 1/2 months after my previous roll) and I have a few questions regarding dosing and redosing (I apologize in advance for the long post)

I have only taken molly twice before, 10 weeks between each trip, both times I took untested ecstasy pills, so the dosages are hypothetical and solely based on what the dealer said

My weight is 65 kg / 143 lbs

Previous experiences

- 1st experience : dropped 3 * ~62 mg (3/4 * 250 mg pill) within 1h30 -> blissful roll

- 2nd experience : dropped 3 * 120 mg (1.5 * 240 mg pill), first two drops were spaced one hour apart from each other, redosed for the second time 4 hours after the initial dose (which was indeed completely useless and harmful, but I didn't have a lot of knowledge back then unfortunately) -> I only had a 10-20 minutes very euphoric peak after the comeup phase (I actually checked the time on my phone, it wasn't some time warping caused by the euphoria), then the empathogenic effects wore off fairly quickly at the same time I took my second dose, leaving me with a very speedy and definitely not euphoric trip for 5 hours, very disappointing and frustrating as I want to take MDMA for the full experience (I do enjoy the physical stimulation that comes with it, but I definitely need that love feeling first), the 3rd dose obviously didn't help, only extending the stimulation for a bit longer and making me experience my first real MDMA comedown a couple days later for a couple days (pretty harsh)

For my 3rd time, I am getting crystals instead of pills and they're gonna get qualitatively and quantitatively tested in a lab

I have gathered some knowledge through reading a lot of internet resources, including a ton of really interesting topics here, but I still have some remaining questions (sorry if some of them sound silly)

Questions

1. I am planning on taking an initial dose around 100mg, followed by a 30-40mg single redose, within the first 45-60 mins - can redosing affect the intensity of the trip in a negative way ? (i.e. makes the trip longer BUT slightly less intense, esp. for the empathogenic effects)

2. Does redosing extend both the stimulant and euphoric effects ? I have seen on some thread that it only extends the speedy effect (in which case I wouldn't consider redosing as my goal isn't to take as much mdma as possible), but I haven't seen any mention of it anywhere else so I am quite unsure and curious about this

3. I have seen many resources (mostly HR) advising to stick to / not exceed 1.5mg/kg for the first dose (which in my case would be around 100mg), however I have seen on various bluelight threads people mentionning 120-130mg, sometimes a bit more, as a good first initial dose, so I'm kinda confused here, is 100mg going to be enough for a good roll ? I want to be sure about my first dose as I've read that it sets the trip's intensity

4. This one is mainly related to my 2nd experience, but does taking a high dose result in a very short (but more intense) euphoric peak then leaves you with a mainly speedy trip ? and if true, what dosage should I avoid exceeding in order to keep both effects for the whole duration of the trip (I prefer having euphoric effects for the whole trip, rather than a strong but much shorter euphoric peak)

Thank you very much !

 

[G_Chem]

Hey I’m at work and probably should be.. actually working lol but I’ll do my best.

1) Nope the redose (at least the dosage you speak of) should not negate any of the positives only prolong the overall experience. I’d wager you wouldn’t start to see negatives until you hit a full solid single dose or more as a redose.

2) A booster dose like what you describe so long as it’s taken at or before 2hrs post first dose, should extend both euphoria and speediness. You really don’t see it extending just the speedy until 3-4+hrs post first dose. This is why the booster is recommended about 90min post first dose.

3) Do 120mg. 100 is good but 120 is perfect. I usually go 120 plus 40-60mg booster. I’ve also got 18yrs of use on you. Typically I give completely new people 100mg tho.

4) It can.. But usually the most intense effects are like 2-3hrs instead of a nice solid 3-5hrs. I’d bet the product you had was lackluster. We have a thread on here that goes over this but not all tested MDMA gives the good effects. I personally look for crystal with a light safrole smell and clear or almost clear shards, some amber is ok too but that’s what I aim for..

Couple months back I ran into some product my buddy gave me that tested legit, looked pretty good, but didn’t get me even close. And it can actually negate proper MDMA too.

Not all batches of MDMA are equal even when lab tested. So don’t give up until you find the good good, then buy quantity to sit on.

-GC

 

[evidos]

Hey I’m at work and probably should be.. actually working lol but I’ll do my best.

hahah, I wrote my post at work too :^)

1) Nope the redose (at least the dosage you speak of) should not negate any of the positives only prolong the overall experience. I’d wager you wouldn’t start to see negatives until you hit a full solid single dose or more as a redose.

2) A booster dose like what you describe so long as it’s taken at or before 2hrs post first dose, should extend both euphoria and speediness. You really don’t see it extending just the speedy until 3-4+hrs post first dose. This is why the booster is recommended about 90min post first dose.

3) Do 120mg. 100 is good but 120 is perfect. I usually go 120 plus 40-60mg booster. I’ve also got 18yrs of use on you. Typically I give completely new people 100mg tho.

4) It can.. But usually the most intense effects are like 2-3hrs instead of a nice solid 3-5hrs. I’d bet the product you had was lackluster. We have a thread on here that goes over this but not all tested MDMA gives the good effects. I personally look for crystal with a light safrole smell and clear or almost clear shards, some amber is ok too but that’s what I aim for..

yeah, you're most likely right about the product being crappy, especially when compared to my first experience, I've seen that thread and will definitely try to look for these characteristics for the next batches

Couple months back I ran into some product my buddy gave me that tested legit, looked pretty good, but didn’t get me even close. And it can actually negate proper MDMA too.

Not all batches of MDMA are equal even when lab tested. So don’t give up until you find the good good, then buy quantity to sit on.

-GC

thank you so much for your clear and insightful reply, it completely answers all of my questions (and even more!), I'll try 120 + 40 mg then

 

[G_Chem]

hahah, I wrote my post at work too :^)

yeah, you're most likely right about the product being crappy, especially when compared to my first experience, I've seen that thread and will definitely try to look for these characteristics for the next batches

thank you so much for your clear and insightful reply, it completely answers all of my questions (and even more!), I'll try 120 + 40 mg then

Anytime I love talking MDMA.

-GC

 

[cosmosmariner]

Hey, Evidos:

I just wanted to say good on you for thinking strategically about this stuff. Not only will conscious use give you the best experience, but will also allow you to enjoy MDMA for many years to come.

 

[evidos]

Hey, Evidos:

I just wanted to say good on you for thinking strategically about this stuff. Not only will conscious use give you the best experience, but will also allow you to enjoy MDMA for many years to come.

Hey cosmosmariner, thank you for your input, conscious use is precisely what I am aiming for, it also gives me peace of mind, especially as a beginner, which will most likely improve my set for my next time and ultimately improve my future experiences, allowing me to enjoy MDMA better as you say