Logic vs Ilogic

[Noodle473]

I feel like if i'm smart then I should be logical. As if logic is good by definition. Why is it better than illogc? Because illogic is literally ill? Only the stupid are illogical? The void of space we live in seems both infinitely illogical and logical as a living, breathing paradox. How profound, yet I can still make it worth nothing in my head. I don't know if what I am referring to is what is literally in my head though. Goddamn Taoist theologies usurping the throne of power in my dominion. Hell.

It is true by definition that logic is safer, healthier, an all around the universe best thing to practice. But you can only characterize it by what its definition is, so one is simply further expanding upon logic when promoting it, not saying it is better in any way. It simply is. Isness. What if the key to utopia is practicing illogic? I know that sounds like an illogical thing to say, and as if people would practice anything with such ignorance. But ignorance is illogic, and so everything that is against logic. Everything that is against logic, in those who practice it, is bad, so we will never know if illogic is the way to go. That sounds like such a stupid joke, perhaps the cosmic joke, that we would follow something so blindly, if people practiced illogic. We are in the dark on the illogical world, and yet it hardly seems that we can control "our" lives to stay logical. We do everything we can, but "no one is perfect," perhaps its a piece of the illogic stuck in us forever. It can never be absent, by definition, if it exists at all, and we now of it. The way each person reads this in their own way is gonna fuck the context of this shit all up, but thats the way she goes.

So if I am illogical, then a majority of people will hate me, with "good" reason, because they are logical. I don't see how that makes illogic wrong, that's just what it is. Sure, I will hurt people if i'm illogical, but that doesn't even to be something logical people can control. Its just the universe flowing out. Perhaps there is nothing we can control. Then can we control the literal entity that is nothing? I guess so, by definition, but I don't see what that would do for us. I wonder if this idea of us truly having no control is related to why Islam means submission. Maybe we have to submit because there is nothing we can control. So thats the best option. It seems kind of sad, like having to give into rape simply because there is no option, but we enjoy life don't we? At least on occasion.

 

[panic in paradise]

in some countries they drive on the other side of the road, to do otherwise would be illogical.

 

[malakaix]

That was quite a read, It's the final leap isn't it; giving up the idea that you have control.. which is no more then an illusion thats held onto out of resistance that if we actually do accept we truly have no control, that we will cease to exist.

But really its only the idea of ones self that comes to an end, and can just as quickly arise the moment we forget.

The way I see it is life is living through us, we don't exist beyond our imagined selves, as you said the universe is simply flowing.

I know some on this board have there own opinions of Ken Wilbers work on consciousness but you should have a look at his work with spiral dynamics; I think it would address some questions you've posed, maybe.

 

[panic in paradise]

"Logic does not, however, cover good reasoning as a whole. That is the job of the theory of rationality. Rather it deals with inferences whose validity can be traced back to the formal features of the representations that are involved in that inference, be they linguistic, mental, or other representations."
Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy

tis all subjective relativity.

 

[P A]

As if logic is good by definition.

As someone who exhorts and attempts daily to exemplify a certain commitment to logically sound habits of thought, I do not perceive logic as such as possessing a special status or intrinsic value. Much like my car keys, logic is a tool, a practical instrument, a means to and end, a widget, a concept near-entirely built upon the demands of rigor, utility, and efficacy; and, of course, a topic of considerable academic interest in its own right. But it's nothing more or less than that.

Your inane spluttering about whether or not 'illogic' is 'wrong' is garbled beyond my powers of comprehension. I cannot stress Rule #3 enough. Closed.

 

[CrackAndScrabble]

After reading this title I thought there might be a new Apple product called iLogic. I imagine it would be quite the seller.