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Lightbulb Vaporizer and Hash

Captain.Heroin

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I have a question for those who partake in hash. Smoking hash on top of weed either in a GB or a bowl can be nice, but the best way to get wickedly stoned from hash is a lightbulb vaporizer. There's really no question about that, if you haven't vaporized hash, you really don't know what you're missing out on.

With that being said, is there any reason why using a lightbulb vaporizer can create extremely harsh hits when smoking hash, especially when near the end? When I first start hitting it, there's no problem at all. At the end (as the amount of vapor/smoke being produced slowly dies down) is when it gets very harsh. It can seem hard to breathe. As I understand it, as your lungs are bombarded by a large amount of cannabis smoke, your throat closes up and then opens up, the latter re-opening of the throat is what makes smoking weed a great relief for asthmatics.

However, having a hit of this hash out of the lightbulb vaporizer (and yes I did use salt to remove the inner film - the bulb is now clear) is harsher than having smoked a half gram of weed out of a four foot bong in one hit. I'm not sure why, so I decided to post a thread to see if others who use lightbulb vaporizers have experienced what I'm talking about.

Maybe I should use less hash in one hit? That might be the obvious solution here. For the record, this is the best hash I have ever laid eyes upon so I am sure it is not the product (I can post a picture if it would help). I am thinking it's just a natural reaction to smoking so much. I am not a tobacco smoker so I am not as heavily effected by it, but my better half is rather annoyed - and coughs a lot, felt as if she couldn't breathe at all. As they do consume tobacco, this may be the difference. However I was wondering what you all thought.
 
Lightbulb vape? Come on dude that is kid stuff and tastes nasty. It's going to be harsh because there is too much concentrated heat not spread evenly enough so it will burn and not vaporize evenly (plus holding a lighter under it is a pain in the ass to get the distance heat right) and of course no cooling or filtration whatsoever so it's going to be harsh.

Get a real oil/hash vaporizer pipe with swinging metal arm with titanium plate that you heat with a torch and drop some nice oil on it while it vaporizes and you suck up the goodness through the overhead glass vent that drops into a bubler. It has been a while since I smoked weed but you gotta do it right.

In the meantime you can try doing knife hits by heating a knife on the stove, then with a funnel (top of a 2 liter works) drop a bit of hash on the red hot knife and let it sizzle and vaporize while you inhale. You should get better results and you can drop tiny bits of hash that will vaporize all at once evenly on the red hot knife. It will be way better than a lightbulb. Lightbulb vapes are meant for bud only and there they are pretty ineffective to begin with and only used in desperate situations, I can't imagine trying to vape hash out of one.
 
As I said, the beginning of the hit isn't harsh at all. And you don't hold the flame directly underneath, its at least several inches below the glass. By twisting the lightbulb very quickly back and forth once it begins to get going, you get the material to burn evenly and efficiently. Trust me, it's much more efficient than smoking hash.

It's not harsh because the vapor is hot - it's not. The hit becomes harsh if you hit the end of it. I've been leaving a bit of it behind stuck to the glass and I don't have any problems with the beginning part of the hit, it's not harsh at all.

It's rather easy to vaporize hash out of a lightbulb. Vaporizers are expensive, I don't have that sort of money. Light bulbs are free, straws and duct tape are free...I'd rather save my money for more of this dank hash. Just the smallest bit of it is getting me ripped.
 
True, free can be good, just try the knife hits like I said using small one hit pieces of hash on a red hot knife. I think you will like it a lot more. Also normal vaporizers won't work with hash or they might barely work, they don't get hot enough since they are designed for bud and the heat required to vape hash would ignite bud.

There are other good home made tricks for smoking/vaping hash and honestly the best way if you don't have a specialized oil vape which were custom made per order last I checked your best bet is putting the hash or oil on top of a bowl of bud and smoking it.

Bulbs are a pain and I'm sure once the hash gets baked on it isn't coming off without breaking the bulb while trying to clean it or you are going to get nastier and nastier hits until you make a new bulb vape.

Dropping hash onto red hot metal is the best way to vaporize it hands down (titanium is ideal), it's just a matter of how you suck it up from there and I made some neat contraption back in my day to attach the swinging Ti plates to glass on glass fittings for water pipes to get even more filtration and smoother hits.

Start simple though with knives on the stove.

Edit: it's been a while since I was in the cannabis scene. The absolute easiest way to vape hash is to just cut to size and pop the finest mesh screen you can find into your favorite bowl. Drop some hash on, grab a lighter and enjoy some tasty hash vapor/smoke. It will generally vaporize and bubble up if it is good before burning and you can play with the distance of the flame to get the type of vapor you want- torch lighters make it easier to control heat and get it to vaporize before burning. Much better than fooling around with lightbulbs.
 
When you vapourise hash, you're basically distilling the cannabinoids and terpenoids and what not, using your lungs as a condenser, which is quite different from smoking as I'm sure you can appreciate. This tends to be very tickly on the lungs, and produces more coughing in myself, and many of my (seasoned) acquaintances, than smoking ever does. Not sure why it's harsher at the end of the hit though.
Posting a pic probably won't help, but then again it certainly couldn't hurt to show us this incredible piece of yours...
the heat required to vape hash would ignite bud.
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Bud burns at 500 degrees plus, 300 is sufficient to vapourise all the THC and delicious aromatic compounds in hash.

EDIT:Reading back through, it might be because the terpenoids/whatever else you're boiling off at the end of the hit are less volatile, and thus heavier on the lungs. Just speculating though.
 
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Yerg said:
When you vapourise hash, you're basically distilling the cannabinoids and terpenoids and what not, using your lungs as a condenser, which is quite different from smoking as I'm sure you can appreciate. This tends to be very tickly on the lungs, and produces more coughing in myself, and many of my (seasoned) acquaintances, than smoking ever does. Not sure why it's harsher at the end of the hit though.
Posting a pic probably won't help, but then again it certainly couldn't hurt to show us this incredible piece of yours...

Bud burns at 500 degrees plus, 300 is sufficient to vapourise all the THC and delicious aromatic compounds in hash.

EDIT:Reading back through, it might be because the terpenoids/whatever else you're boiling off at the end of the hit are less volatile, and thus heavier on the lungs. Just speculating though.
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Thanks Yerg for the reply...I just have no idea what "terpenoids" are. Excuse my ignorance, but what are terpenoids and why are they harsh on the lungs?

I can see the markedly different way that hash is consumed between smoking and vaping it. I can understand some people will prefer to smoke it off of a bowl/GB, but I definitely prefer to vape the hash.

I'll get a nice pic of this stuff in a few minutes, I just woke up.

Once again thank you to everyone who replied I appreciate all responses!
 
what did you use to make the lightbulb vape? when i used to use one i always felt like plastic was melting from the lid and i was inhaling that.
 
Terpenoids are compounds that, besides cannabinoids, are the major constituents of the resin, and give it its flavour and fragrance. They are basically the aromatic oils in hash. The reason they're harsh is that you're condensing them from a gas to a liquid on the inside of your lungs, which is obviously tickly. Having a little look at my books though, apparently it's the most volatile terpenoids that cause the most coughing, so I really have no idea why the vapour gets harsher towards the end of the hit, sorry. I would have guessed that it was an adulterant with a fairly high boiling point, but you say this is really good piece. I'm stumped, hopefully someone will be able to answer that one for you.
 
i wouldn't use the hot knife method, just stick to torching the glass, using a bong, with a bowl and a screen, works perfect. i don't own these tools myself but at the hash bars they do it via that method or hot knife, or skillet, at home i honestly smoke my hash out of a pipe with bud, or pure hash outta a bong with a screen, does the job. sometimes, i feel like i'm a dope head though.
 
I think it's a real shame to mix hash and bud. Someone has gone to a lot of effort (hopefully) to extract just the resin and exclude any plant matter, why go and mix a load back in?
 
I just prefer to keep my hash pure and clean, but different strokes for different folks man, I'm not gonna tell you how you should prefer to smoke.
 
this thread inspired me to build a lightbulb vaporizer for some of the really nice hash i have right now and it is by far the most overwhelming high ive had ever.
 
have you tried the glass bubbles vaporizrs at the smoke shops? I heard there great for DMT and im sure its the same for hash.... although mostly meth heads use em so you'll get some wierd looks xD (got yelled out of a smoke shop for asking for one with accusations of doing meth)

edit: also gonna add in I used to get a really really bad taste in my mouth whenever useing a lightbulb vape. I would highly recomend against it when you got the funds
 
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I made a lightbulb vape specifically for some hash I just picked up. I noticed a similiar effect with the first batch of hash, but the second batch never got harsh.

Could it be your hash? Maybe. Could it be the heat of the lightbulb grows as you keep trying to get better hits? Maybe.

My hash gets melted into the inside of the lightbulb, I could see resin as a reason for harsher hits being a real possibility.
 
cookiemonster420 said:
have you tried the glass bubbles vaporizrs at the smoke shops? I heard there great for DMT and im sure its the same for hash.... although mostly meth heads use em so you'll get some wierd looks xD (got yelled out of a smoke shop for asking for one with accusations of doing meth)

edit: also gonna add in I used to get a really really bad taste in my mouth whenever useing a lightbulb vape. I would highly recomend against it when you got the funds
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This makes no sense. If they sell them then why would they yell at you.
 
The store I walked into didnt.... They said since I wanted a glass bulb to be able to cheaply vaporize with a lighter they assumed I was asking for a pipe to melt crystals.

edit: notice that I say many different kinds of crystal and refer to it as a "glass vaporizer". Vaporizers turn crystals into vapor even if its still sitting on a wet sticky green leaf!
 
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haha yeah! the first time i tried hash with lightblulb. i stopped after two light tokes, a few seconds later i'm so baked. %) also i only used a tiny chunk and it lasted me for quite a while
 
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