Light Mephedrone Oral Dose?

[zapper]

Hi,

Iv been lurking here a long time and have decided to sign up and post this thread and I could not find an answere.

I'v been through 2 grams of mephedrone so far (over about 1month).

My frist experience was cool. Had about 100-150mg snorted and it was very euphoric and amazing.

After this, about 2weeks later I went abit over the top. Had 600mg in 4hours and had a bad experience.. Blury vision (which i did not like), mild panic attack, sweating like a pig (though i did not have blue joints or anything).. I just drank a pint of water and slept it off, next morning I was fine

I didnt dare touch mephedrone again.. Untill one night were my friends, who usually dont take any drugs, apart from weed, asked me if I wanted to join in to take legal highs. So that night I arrived there and they had a baggie of 'Shake 'n' Vac' which they sell in my local headshop. This is powder mephedrone.

At first I was a bit scared but went for it anyway. We all had about 300mg each over 2 or 3 hours.


Anyway, (i got a bit of topic there), based on what I said what would be the best oral dose for me? Keeping in mind I am not seeking to get "mangled up on drugs" on a night out, and I would like to avoid the blury vision.

I assume you would need more orally to get the same effect, than snorting?

Thanks in advanced.

[i couldnt be bothered writting swim and swiy, reading things like that annoys me lol]

 

[zapper]

What I ment about 'getting mangled up':

I know some people like to get absolutely off their faces on pills, and some just seek a mild euphoria/stimulating feeling, and Im not one of those who like ot get destroyed on pills.

 

[Bomboclat]

[i couldn't be bothered writing swim and swiy, reading things like that annoys me lol]

good man, SWIM isn't used around here

A good oral dosage for a mild 4-MMC experience I found was at around 175-200mg.

I'm glad you wizened up after taking that heroic dose, most people i know wouldn't with a drug like 4-MMC.

Take is easy man, the cardiotoxicity is a bit high with 4-MMC, and that mixed with the fiendish behavior it seems to induce in people can create a very dangerous habit.

Stay safe

 

[Shambles]

Yup, for most folks a good oral dose (that's not too messy) is anywhere from 100-250mg depending on the individual. I'd say around 150mg is a decent "starter" oral dose that's fun but without too much of the meph-mongdom that higher doses bring out. Not exactly my favourite drug, but when I do use it I use it orally as the side-effects are less troubling, it lasts longer, it's less fiendish and is also a superior high, in my opinion. Snorting it brings out all it's worst sides... and it has quite enough of those already :D

 

[zapper]

Thanks for the replys.
Yea snorting sucks. I swear my nose has melted at a stupidly fast rate. Only now, like 3 weeks after last time I snorted it, my nose bleeds stop.
It may be me being paranoid but: I swear I still pull out bits of skin from my nose. Then again it might just be a normal boggie idk.. But I will never snort again. This weekend will probably be the last time I ever do mephedrone, i will be using the last bit i have left with a few friends, and am 109% sure I will never buy this again
Dont get me wrong it is an amazing rush and the upcome is soooooo nice.. but nah, it isnt worth the dangers
. I read that mephedrone is 10x more toxic than crystal meth.. were crystal meth lasts much much much longer.

Seriously, I think the only reason people to research chemicals is so they feel 'safe' (as in not scared about cops, but then again it wold be hard to explain to them that it is a legal research chemical... either way you will be arrested and sit in a cell untill they confirm that it is NOT an illegal substence) when they go out clubbing.. I am almost certain that it would be safer to take the real thing (coke, e's or mdma in this case) than shuvving a research chemical up your nose.

Annyyway my rant is over :D

I just want to avoid bluryness because I absolutely hated it .

Shambles: Could you please give me your definition of 'meph-mongdom' and some examples :$ thanks

 

[Shambles]

The Mephedrone Addiction Thread over in EADD has plenty of info and experiences of the downsides of heavy meph use (leaving aside from the toxicity stuff) and there's also the meph megathreads - one in OD, one in PD and six () in EADD - linkies in my sig or via the search engine.

Also worth a read is the How Toxic is Mephedrone? thread in ADD. Think the "10x more toxic than meth" figure is mentioned in there (40x more toxic, from memory) but it's a wee bit more complex than that - you can't really compare the two so simplistically - but it's definitely nasty stuff and one to be very careful with.

 

[zapper]

Yeah i'v pritty much read every thread I found before opening this thread.
My will power is to strong to let any substance control And i'v been through queit a large number of substances in my life and never felt dependant, and always have large 'breaks' after heavy use of 1 substance (sometimes as large as 6months) I just dont feel the need to get high, I do it for fun really.

What amount snorted is comparable to 150mg or 200mg taking orally, at once?

Thanks.

 

[Shambles]

I'd say that it has approximately twice as much "kick" when snorted but the high is pretty different - mellower, longer-acting and less head-mashing dosed orally. I could snort half a gram in a coupla hours no problem (not that I'd want to cos it's horrid stuff) but dosed orally that kinda amount would probably last a good few hours. Hard to give an exact equivalent though.

Incidentally, will power only helps to a degree - nobody who's now using multiple grams daily thought that they'd get to that stage cos it sneaks up on you.

 

[Tomer]

I'd say that it has approximately twice as much "kick" when snorted but the high is pretty different - mellower, longer-acting and less head-mashing dosed orally. I could snort half a gram in a coupla hours no problem (not that I'd want to cos it's horrid stuff) but dosed orally that kinda amount would probably last a good few hours. Hard to give an exact equivalent though.

Incidentally, will power only helps to a degree - nobody who's now using multiple grams daily thought that they'd get to that stage cos it sneaks up on you.

Great post. I always take oral doses of Meph. It isn't as euphoric, but it's a great mood enhancer without any real side effects. I take 100-150 mg's and am content for an hour or two. Buy some empty capsules from your local health food store and fill accordingly. The comedown isn't existant, but there is a slight coke comedown to it. Have a benzo or beer at hand. GL

Tomer

 

[zapper]

Thanks for the replys
What about 50-75mg snorted and 150mg orally 10mins after (timming should be about right?) because i wouldnt want to loose the euphoria o: neither do i want to snort lol

 

[Shambles]

Oral dosing is plenty euphoric enough for me. Many like to take an oral dose (maybe 100-200mg) and snort maybe 50-100mg on the come-up to give it a kick - dose dependent on tolerance and the individual, of course. Oral meph kicks in within 10-15 minutes anyway so don't really see the point - just take a higher oral dose or take a second dose to give it a boost. Don't find snorting a booster really adds anything much of value myself and also kinda defeats the object of trying to avoid the fiending

 

[zapper]

Thanks for the replys.
Yea looks like we'll be doing either 150mg oral + 50mg snorted. or just 175mg oral and thats it.

I read that lining stomach with milk and taking a bit of vitamin c helps.
Is this true? If so, how can this be?

Thanks.

 

[bignbrown]

eh? maybe this is why ive felt like a panicky, heart attack mess today, anything below 250mg doesnt cut it for me, a 300mg bomb usually, but then again i remember when i first started 180mg used to get me spangled.

 

[coffee23]

Hi,

Sorry to bring up an old thread, however the other night SWIM and SWIMS mate both had 250mg washed down with a drink.

Neither had any beer or anything, however after about 10/20 mins the come up was immense and both had to sit down for a while to keep everything together, after the initial 10-20 mins and some water both hit the dance floor and ended up dancing like crazy for 4 hours solid.

Anyway, both SWIM & SWIMS mate had plenty of water but where sweating like no tomorrow and it felt to SWIM like the misic was in a tunnel and everyone was rushing towards him, thus leading to a massive rush going through his whole body, this would then ease off for about 10 mins then return and so on.

Both SWIM & SWIMS mate reported biting (clenching) of the teeth and SWIM also noted that he felt more open (normally very shy) and loads of Energy.

In total the above lasted SWIM for around 6 hours and then very very mild affects the following day.

Now SWIM wants to do it again, but this time not so intense just enough to get him more confident and a bit more energy than normal, would 100mg (capped) be about right for this (dosent matter if euphoria is had or not) with another 100mg (capped) later through the night "IF" needed?


Thanks in advance.