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life after opiates??? help!!

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luv4life

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Hey everyone Im new to this site so if Im not posting this right let me know:\ but I have been off opiates for almost 2 months I went to detox for 5 days they gave me suboxone which helps alot.. but Im so f~n tired!! I felt good the first couple weeks out but now I have lost all my motivation. I used to exercise daily dont wanna do that. I sleep like 12 hours a day!! when will I feel "better"??
 
A lot of people seem to think that since your endorphins stop producing themselves rapidly after heavy opiate use that it takes some time for them to start working properly again. There are a number of things you can do to help promote endorphin production. Check them out via google. My personal experience is that a combination of those methods and keeping a positive outlook and proper exercise methods will make you feel happy again. It took me quite some time, about 3 months before I started feeling normal again. Just don't give up girl, you can do it. I promise you WILL feel better.

Keep up the good work. :)
 
well you are still on opiates (suboxone). Your going to always have some side effects of being on opiates as long as you are taking them. It can take a good three months with absolutely no opiates before your energy comes back completely. Your going to have to detox off that sub asap if you want your energy back.
 
That's one reason why I didnt want the suboxone because to me it can turn to another habit if not used right.. I went 4 days detoxing with nothing and the Dr. convinced me that I would relapse without it.. he was probally right. so do you know how bad it is coming off the sub??
 
They taper you so coming off the last (small) dose is not too bad. I quit with subbutex and it did take about 3 months to be properly normal again, but a couple of weeks to be able to function ok and go to work.
 
I will check out the options for endorphine production.. I KNOW exercising as I was is going to be one of my best tools to get outta this shit but dam my muscles and mind just wanna sleep it sux BAD!!
 
I did try weaning myself down off the suboxone but my cravings shot thru the roof.. I'm down to 4mg a day
 
A taper needs to have a period of stabalisation before you go down anymore. I can't remember how long its was exactly but I think 2 weeks on each dose.
 
luv4life said:
That's one reason why I didnt want the suboxone because to me it can turn to another habit if not used right.. I went 4 days detoxing with nothing and the Dr. convinced me that I would relapse without it.. he was probally right. so do you know how bad it is coming off the sub??
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its really not bad . way easier compared to methadone
 
does this sound like what you have?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychomotor_retardation

it's been like 3 months since any sub. i still have lazy lazy muscles but it's slowly getting better. started walking and that helps things

i think benzos may exacerbate it, especially with tolerance

it's hard to get back into habits that you had sober but you can't stay stuck forever (unless you're rich lol)

i'm curious if i have the right term, not sure if it's something else
 
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I don't know why people try to quit all at once, do you think it makes you cooler? Taper off slowly, its the only way to function while you SLOWLY quit.

4mg a day is awesome, great job! Now bite the bullet and get yourself down zero..
 
take a couple aleve ( naproxen) before you workout and it will help tremendously. I would pop a couple of those in the morning and then go work out without all the dull aches and pains and I'd feel a lot better afterwards. The aleve just helps you get started and not focus on all the subtle aches in your body.
 
Why give up at all? Why not stay on sub permanantly, you know they are sometimes prescribed as an antidepressant, and it sounds like what you have is depression. Most people take opiates to start off with because they have depression, if you take nothing for it then you will be right back where you started, and you will have the same reason for using that you originally had.

Well thats my thinking anyway, I'm on sub, and I intend to be on it forever, else I know I will take other more harmful opiates again, I cannot be happy without them.
 
I don't know why people try to quit all at once, do you think it makes you cooler? Taper off slowly, its the only way to function while you SLOWLY quit.
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People do things for all different sorts of reasons. I quit opiates cold turkey after 2 years, I didn't do it because it would give me bragging rights on bluelight or to impress my friends. I don't even talk about HOW I got off opiates with my friends.

I quit cold turkey because I felt it was the best way to do it, for me. Not everyone should but in my case tapering always led to a relapse on my part. My DOC was poppy pod tea, I ran into tolerance issues after a month of using regularly and spent time sick just to get high again. I would often taper for several days but I only did it in pursuit of that warmth and euphoria. Anytime that I tapered I would want more and just couldn't control the cravings. Maybe I'm just weak willed, I dunno but I'm reasonably sure that I made the right decision, I think that to cold turkey made the recovery faster for me.

With all that said, I still don't think I'm back to normal and I have a difficult time motivating myself with any real long term goals. I mean short term goals I'm doing great, I don't have any anxiety about going into work or going out with friends. I'm more active and enjoying music and shit again. But when I try to focus on what I want from life I always feel anxious and will myself not to think about shit like that, I tell myself I've got my hands full with recovery.

I dunno, it's definitely a challenge to return to a normal life after the aftermath of long term addiction. My biggest concern is that I don't really want to be done with opiates, I'm young and being 42 days clean isn't shit in the grand picture. I don't want to repeat the same mistakes but life is long and I'm always looking for the easy way to enjoy myself, not through long term pursuit of happiness but through short term chemical means or gratification.
 
I have also tried quitting cold turkey numerous times!! not for me I crumbled @ max 2 days later. I have also considered being on sub for awhile and not stressing myself over the day its GONE .. As we all know addiction is a disease.. If i was a diabetic would I be ashamed of taking my insulin everyday?? no. of course not. I need it to function. Thats in a sense how I feel about the suboxone. I do have clinical depression it is low grade as it comes and goes. But I do have add and a severe mood disorder, which hand in hand can cause some depression. The opiates got real bad my last year of use do to signifigant injuries I have to my neck and back which still fuck with me daily! with that the dr's were handing the meds out like candy!! no questions asked i had script after script.. the addiction excellerated FAST!! so its like i was inbetween a rock and a hard place ya know...pain vs addiction?? wtf!! so Im on day 46 everybody still on my 4mg.. but gettin by. since the last time i logged in I've actually got off my ass and been takin my kids swimmin and to the parks that alone has made me feel better. .. till next time ya'll take care
 
This is my first day posting on here - been reading for years. I started methadone a few days ago to come off a 2.5 yr 300mg/day oxy habit. I was also doing dilaudid and whatever ever else I could get if needed. I reached a breaking point after trying cold turkey a few times. Cold turkey is not anything easy to do. I would make it sometimes to day 4 but the pain and depression sent me back. After these 2 days on methadone I am wondering if anyone can give me some hope!?? I have not left bed in 2 days and feel beyond sedated!! The doc did not warn me this would happen and I can't spend anymore days feeling tranquilized as I need to work tomorrow. When will this go away? Was methadone a bad idea? I am so depressed and confused - any insight would help!!! Thanks!
 
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