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Cocaine Legitimate use cocaine in medicine.

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As many probably know, cocaine has a legitimate, though limited medical use. From a friend that is an ER nurse they use it in the ER for intractable epitaxis (nosebleeds). Another friend who happens to be in AA is an ER doc confermed this. He prefers to use lidocaine with epinephrine (1:10,000) I think-depends on doc preference/ postgraduate training experience, he says. I Read an article that plain old afrin has been found to be effective even superior to some preparations. The rational for using coke is that it numbs the area and decreases blood flow at the same time. Problem is you need to premedicate with a sedative (barbituates used to be the drug of choice but know thwy probably use benzos.) Also idea for ENT surgery because its duration of action and other properties make it ideal. Comes, I believe in 4% and 10% solutions or paste (the last no one uses). Also read in my last pharmacies formulary that they sell multy gram ( i think up to 500) for compoumding preparations.

My question is, has anyone ever been prescribed cocaine for any reason either for a nose bleed, ENT surgery, or other. Or someone you know that this has happened to. Describe the experience. What- your gonna see a whole bunch of people presenting with nose bleeds to the ER, can imagine discussion at the local pub, "just punch me and make sure it bleeds good just don't break my nose."

Someone gots to be using the like 175,000 kg of pharmaceutical cocaine the company in mayfield, NJ extracts before sending the decocanized coca syrup to Coca-Cola.

By the way m please feel free to move to the section were it will get the best responses. didn't add to the coke thread because it will get burried. But couldn't find anything about the legitamate use of cocaine in the archives. happy New Years!
 
can you please elaborate on this cocaine extracting company in NJ
like what is the name of it
 
can you please elaborate on this cocaine extracting company in NJ
like what is the name of it

I believe it is called the Stephan Company.

Beg pardon, they import 175,000 kg of coca leaves not produce cocaine.

I think this is next sold to Merck but I can't remember the details.

By the way, the facility in maywood is a very heavily armed compound, cocaine leaves in armor cars under DEA scrutiny, ect... lost my book so don't want to provide any misleading info but I'm sure the companies name is correct.
 
decocanized - coca cola syrup ?

ermmmmm .... this dont sound right ...

WHEN THEY TRIED TO RELEASE NEW COKE SEVERAL YEARS AGO IT WAS FORMULATED WITHOUT THE COCA EXTRACT so coca-cola classic was released with the coca added, this move had to do with the fear of decreased coca output due to political instability, even established a coca research station in kaui to find ulternative grow sites. Problem is, the coca-cola company requires a special species of coca called the trujillo coca that is cultivated in a narrow area unlike to the 2 more prevelant species (Erythoxylum and novogranatense used in the illegal coke trade and legal trade for the natives in the Indes.) Wish I could find my book
 
9.3 The Legal Importation of Coca Leaf
The Stepan Company (a $400 million American Stock Exchange company) of Maywood, New Jersey imports 175,000 KG of coca leaves into the United States each year. The leaves come from some of the same farms that supply the Columbian drug cartels. Its finished products end up into nearly everyone in the United States.

One finished product of course is cocaine, which exit the buildings in armored trucks. Tincture of cocaine is one application: in an ointment, it numbs nerve endings in a hurry and it causes vasoconstriction (closure of peripheral blood vessels). The same medical action that controls bleeding in the emergency room is the one that rots away the bridge of a coke abuser's nose.

The other major product is the coca in Coca-Cola©. The Coke formula is one of the most closely guarded corporate secrets in America. The company concedes to using a 'decocainized flavor essence in the coca leaves'-one of the few Coke ingredients the company will publicly acknowledge. When asked why the company uses such a troublesome product as coca leaves, its representative said that 'each ingredient adds to the flavor profile.'

Flavor scientists say that the mysterious essence has no significant taste of its own , but acts as an 'enhancer' PepsiCo Inc. does not use the coca leaf. Flavor scientist Nicholas Feurstein thinks that the average guzzler might well notice the difference if Coke stopped using it.

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The very first batch of Coca-Cola contained an extract of coca leaves back in 1886. Coke had in fact contained traces of cocaine ever since John 'Doc' Pemberton created the drink. At the turn of the century, a public outcry erupted against cocaine. Doctors and editorialists began taking aim at Coca-Cola.

Now the company had a catch-22 problem. If it removed the coca leaf from the product's manufacture, it could no longer defend use of the name. If cocaine was used, an angry public would boycott Coca-Cola. An elaborate extraction process was devised.

The leaf is ground up, mixed with sawdust, soaked in bicarbonate of soda, percolated with toluene, steam blasted, mixed with powdered Kola nuts, and then pasteurized. The Coke-Cola company, forever fearful of the DEA and the drug lords, is a stickler on security and quality.

Drug lords have a less formal way to extract cocaine: they use kerosene as a solvent; the drug leaches out like tea from a tea bag. Cocaine is then recovered by evaporation.
http://www.uic.edu/classes/osci/osci590/9_3 The Legal Importation of Coca Leaf.htm



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As far as the above poster goes- sorry to break the news to you, no cocaine in coca-cola

So back to my original question- has anyone received it medically or know anything about its current state of use in medicine.
 
WHEN THEY TRIED TO RELEASE NEW COKE SEVERAL YEARS AGO IT WAS FORMULATED WITHOUT THE COCA EXTRACT so coca-cola classic was released with the coca added, this move had to do with the fear of decreased coca output due to political instability, even established a coca research station in kaui to find ulternative grow sites. Problem is, the coca-cola company requires a special species of coca called the trujillo coca that is cultivated in a narrow area unlike to the 2 more prevelant species (Erythoxylum and novogranatense used in the illegal coke trade and legal trade for the natives in the Indes.) Wish I could find my book

i had no idea they still used coca leaves in the production of coca cola

i know it used to contain cocaine....

my step-dad works for coca cola im gonna ask him about this stuff

interesting...

Originally Posted by jspun

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As far as the above poster goes- sorry to break the news to you, no cocaine in coca-cola

So back to my original question- has anyone received it medically or know anything about its current state of use in medicine.

its only used as a topical anaestheitc AFAIK .
 
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ull NEVER get prescribed cocaine...

itl never say, cocaine, 2 times a day daily 10mgs...

cocaine IS in medication tho, but ull never know cuz they dont even put out the info... its just the way the chemicals work together, u ll never get high off cocaine if its in ur medication
 
When I was in high school, a friend was a janitor in the med school and managed to snag two vials of Merck cocaine solution....I got a little taste of that. As far as a legit medical administration, I had that one time.

I was born with an eye that didn't quite track properly (strabismus). It wasn't exactly a "lazy eye", and an opthamologist had me use glasses. I was always a bit self-conscious about it, and finally at age 33, I decided to pursue getting it corrected. My eye doc sent me to a surgeon in KC, he evaluated me, and set me up for surgery. They knocked me out, then went in to work on the eye muscles. Part of the process was that, when I awoke I had threads hanging from my eyeballs (under bandages). I had to be seen in his office at the end of the day so he could check the alignment before tying off the threads. I can tell you that it hurt like the devil (T3's were prescribed), but as soon as the bandages were removed, the nurse used cocaine eye drops. What I recall was that, as soon as she flooded my eyes with the cocaine, it completely relieved the pain. This was repeated several times during the procedure. Unfortunately, I was not given any to go!
 
I've heard that cocaine is occasionally used for numbing pinpoint areas during eye surgery.


I worked with an older woman for a few years who claimed to have once work at a place in Florida that made medical cocaine. Whether or not that was true, I don't really know!! I kind of had a thing for this woman, so i spent a lot of break time hanging out with her, and she swears it's true!! Who knows? It was an interesting story anyway!!
 
but as soon as the bandages were removed, the nurse used cocaine eye drops. What I recall was that, as soon as she flooded my eyes with the cocaine, it completely relieved the pain. This was repeated several times during the procedure. Unfortunately, I was not given any to go!

Did you feel any kind of high, or just the localized numbness of your eyes?
 
^ have you read the post above your one ? ;)

Kind of skimmed it.


:(

A cashier at a store I used to go to a lot said an eye, ear, nose, and throat doctor sprayed coke in her sinuses as a treatment for rebound congestion caused by withdrawal from nasal spray addiction. Almost sounds too good to be true!!


What prompted her to tell me this is that I was buying nasal spray at the time!!

=D
 
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Its use is virtually limited to ophthalmology, where it occasionally has some benefits over other locals...

Closest thing is d-methylphenidate, but it unfortunately lacks any real affinity for the SERT (which arguably makes coke more euphoric but equally addictive)....
 
Not that this is on topic, but I bet the old coca-cola formula was a kick ass mixer for rum or whiskey! It works pretty well now days, but if there was enough coke to create a slight numbing sensation, I imagine that old granddad would go down pretty smooth!
 
Cocaine is also used medicinally for the nose. Not like "here, take this line, you really need it..." but as a topical anaesthetic.

My friend told me a story in which it was used on him.

Click the NSFW button, because if you don't like gruesome stories, definitely avoid reading this.


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I won't go into all the details, but it ended up with him having a severe injury to the face so that his nose was only hanging on by part of the skin on one side. The scar wasn't noticeable at first, but you can see how he's lucky to even still have a nose. Cocaine as administered topically before being rushed off to the ER.
 
Captain, I read your story and it sounded gnarley- I'm in health care and worked on the ICU at a level 2 trauma center - I've seen all kinds of stuff that so I not easily sickened or shocked. The face is very vacularized so people can actaully bleed to death- in that sort of an emergency- I can see coke being ideal because it numbs the area and causes significant vasocontriction until an ENT can intervene, Found a great email article that I will summarize best I can then paste in the next post.

1. Cocaine enjoys historically widespread use in otolyrynology (Ear, Nose, and throat) called coloquially ENT medicne. It was first used by Koller in eye surgery. I read somewhere that they don't use it anymore for this indication because it can ulcerate the cornea but I could be wrong.

2. Coca cola had 4.5 mg per 180 ml which aint shit- might as well save the hasel and leave it in.

3.) Cocaine is ideal for premedication for surgery on the nose, throat, and oral cavity because it provides anesthesia (like xylocaine) but also, most importantly decreases blood flow in an area prone to bleeding which would makes it hard to visual surgery, and decreases swollen mucosa in the short term. Thats why treating afrin abuse with coke makes sense sort of. The lidocaine requires 1:500,000 epinephrine to keep it from disapating, not necessarily decrease surgical bleeding hence its use. Last but not least, it is rapidly absorbed from mucous membrane which most of us know.

4.) It is used controverstially to prevent nose bleeding especially nosepharangeal and to visualize in cases requiring cauterization or other intervention. People can die from serious nose bleeds (epitaxis) but afrin plus other locals like xylocaine are the drugs of choice. In a double blind test, cocaine was found superior to lidocaine/epi (twice as much) but afrin was found to be even more effective without pesky cardiovascular complications that limit use in certain populations (the very yound, old, people with prexisting conditions.)

5.) Cocaine hydrochloride is available commercially in the United States as flakes, crystals, 135-mg tablets, and solutions of various concentrations. The flakes and crystals are intended for application via moistened cotton swabs. The tablets are to be used in preparation of a topical solution. The premade topical solutions are available in strengths ranging from 2-10%, with a 4% solution most frequently referenced. I have seen it offered in 50 g and 500 g bundles for compunding (not in PDR).

6.) The maximum dose is 200 mg. That sounds like a shit load of pure coke to me. They recomend using a bleb or patch to delay absorption. Usually it is administered during moistened cotton swabs. The use of epi with coke to enhance vasoconstriction is contraindicatedis- it causes delayed administration and can enhance the likelyhood possible cardiovascular adverse events.

Pediatric applications: Another more recently developed use of cocaine is in combination with tetracaine and adrenaline (TAC), composed of 0.5% tetracaine, epinephrine 1:200,000, and 11.8% cocaine. This combination has been used in the pediatric population for suturing lacerations less than 10 cm long in the emergency department. It has been found to be most effective in the head, neck, and scalp; less effective in the trunk; and ineffective in the extremities.

What they don't mention is that patient undergoing therapy with coke should be predosed with a short cting barbituate or benzo. Seconal PO or IV pentobarbital in an emergency situation is ideal. Article to follow.
 
emedicine medscapae article

Topical Anesthetics, Cocaine
Author: John J Simmer, MD,, Assistant Professor of Surgery, Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences; Assistant Chief of Otolaryngology-Head and Neck Surgery Service, Madigan Army Medical Center
Coauthor(s): Don R Revis Jr, MD, Consulting Staff, Department of Surgery, Division of Plastic and Reconstructive Surgery, University of Florida College of Medicine; Michael Brent Seagle, MD, Associate Professor, Division of Plastic Surgery, University of Florida College of Medicine; Consulting Staff, Florida Surgical Center
Contributor Information and Disclosures

Updated: Jul 31, 2008

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Introduction and History
Cocaine is an alkaloid derived from the leaves of the coca plant (Erythroxylon coca). It is the only naturally occurring local anesthetic in medical use today. Indigenous to the Andes Mountains, West Indies, and Java, its use was touted over the centuries as a method of reducing fatigue and promoting a sense of well-being.

Cocaine was introduced into Europe in the 1800s. Sigmund Freud used cocaine on his patients and became addicted through self-experimentation. Niemann first isolated and purified cocaine in 1859. In the latter half of the 1800s, widespread interest in cocaine developed among the medical community, and, during this period, many of the pharmacologic actions and adverse effects were elucidated.

In the 1880s, Koller introduced cocaine into the practice of ophthalmology and Hall introduced it to dentistry.




Chemical structure of cocaine.
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Cocaine was widely available at the outset of the 20th century, and Coca-Cola contained approximately 4.5 mg/180 mL. With widespread use, the problems of abuse and addiction became apparent, and the Harrison Narcotics Act of 1914 essentially banned distribution of cocaine in the United States, except by prescription.

Today, cocaine continues to be used for recreational and medical purposes. Medical use is confined primarily to operative procedures of the nose and throat and treatment for dermal lacerations in children.


Mechanism of Action
Cocaine produces anesthesia by inhibiting excitation of nerve endings or by blocking conduction in peripheral nerves. This is achieved by reversibly binding to and inactivating sodium channels. Sodium influx through these channels is necessary for the depolarization of nerve cell membranes and subsequent propagation of impulses along the course of the nerve. When a nerve loses its ability to propagate an impulse, the individual loses sensation in the area supplied by the nerve.

Cocaine also has a profound effect on the CNS. Cocaine blocks reuptake of dopamine in the midbrain region responsible for reward mediation. This leads to increased stimulation and a sense of euphoria and arousal. As the cocaine level decreases, so does the dopamine level in this region, resulting in depression and a craving for the drug.

Cocaine also blocks the reuptake of norepinephrine in the sympathetic portion of the autonomic nervous system and may stimulate the release of catecholamines from the adrenal gland, resulting in increased stimulation of the sympathetic nervous system. This results in the characteristic tachycardia, hypertension, diaphoresis, mydriasis, and tremors associated with cocaine use.

Cocaine is the only local anesthetic with vasoconstrictive properties. This is a result of its blockade of norepinephrine reuptake in the autonomic nervous system.


Absorption and Metabolism
Cocaine is absorbed rapidly through mucous membranes, and peak plasma levels (ie, 120-474 ng/mL) are reached within 15-60 minutes. Half-life in serum is 30-90 minutes.

Cocaine is metabolized in several ways. Hydrolysis by plasma pseudocholinesterases accomplishes most cocaine degradation to benzoylecgonine, cocaethylene, and several other metabolites.

Oxidative metabolism in the liver produces norcocaine, a toxic substance capable of causing severe hepatic damage. Up to 20% of absorbed cocaine is excreted in the urine unmetabolized.

Cocaine is detectable in the nasal mucosa for 3 hours following application. Serum and urine levels are measurable for approximately 6 hours following application.


Clinical Uses

Cocaine is used for topical anesthesia and vasoconstriction for surgery of the nose, throat, and oral cavity. Cocaine provides rapid and profound anesthesia in conjunction with vasoconstriction and decongestion of swollen mucosa.

Cocaine hydrochloride is available commercially in the United States as flakes, crystals, 135-mg tablets, and solutions of various concentrations. The flakes and crystals are intended for application via moistened cotton swabs. The tablets are to be used in preparation of a topical solution. The premade topical solutions are available in strengths ranging from 2-10%, with a 4% solution most frequently referenced.

The safe maximum dosage is reported to be 200 mg or 2-3 mg/kg, but this is based on anecdotal observations rather than controlled studies. Even 200 mg can cause adverse reactions if rapidly absorbed. Spraying or painting cocaine on the intended surgery site causes more rapid absorption than application by patch or pledget. Clinical studies have shown that only approximately one third of a cocaine solution placed on pledgets is absorbed via the nasal mucosa, with serum levels continuing to rise for 5 minutes after removal. This provides an added margin of safety for the surgeon.

When epinephrine is added to the solution to promote further vasoconstriction, systemic absorption decreases; however, according to published series, the decrease is inconsistent. Late absorption of cocaine has also been reported when cocaine is administered with epinephrine. Therefore, the use of epinephrine cannot be assumed to protect from systemic cocaine absorption. The addition of epinephrine has also been reported to enhance the sympathomimetic action of cocaine, causing hypertension and tachyarrhythmias.

To use cocaine in the nasal cavity, cotton pledgets are soaked in the cocaine solution. After being wrung out, the pledgets are introduced into the operative field with bayonet forceps. Pay particular attention to placing the pledgets in contact with the mucosal surface.

After the pledgets have been in place for at least 10-15 minutes, they may be removed from the side to be approached first. Infiltration of submucosal lidocaine with epinephrine may then be performed. This is best performed with a small syringe and 25-gauge or smaller needle. Proper placement creates blanching of the mucosa. Rarely is more than 1.5 mL required for each side. After allowing several minutes for the injected solution to take effect, inspect the mucosa for the anticipated vasoconstriction. If the patient reports pain at this time or further along in the operative course, pledgets may be loosely reapplied.

Cocaine has also been used as a topical spray for analgesia during transnasal fiberoptic laryngoscopy and awake nasotracheal intubation. Superiority over topical analgesics that do not contain cocaine has not been established.

Another more recently developed use of cocaine is in combination with tetracaine and adrenaline (TAC), composed of 0.5% tetracaine, epinephrine 1:200,000, and 11.8% cocaine. This combination has been used in the pediatric population for suturing lacerations less than 10 cm long in the emergency department. It has been found to be most effective in the head, neck, and scalp; less effective in the trunk; and ineffective in the extremities.

A few drops of the solution may be placed directly on the wound, or, preferably, a moistened cotton ball soaked in the solution may be applied to the wound. Constant gentle pressure is then applied to the cotton balls for 10-20 minutes. After testing the adequacy of anesthesia, the wound may be irrigated, cleansed, and sutured. Inadequacy of anesthesia is remedied by injection of local anesthetic. It should not be used on mucous membranes, large abrasions, or burn areas due to the risk of rapid absorption and systemic toxicity.

Monitor the patient with pulse oximetry and telemetry during use of TAC. In addition, observe the patient for any signs or symptoms of systemic toxicity. Following application and suturing, observe the patient for an additional 60 minutes to ensure that no untoward effects of cocaine absorption occur.

The benefits of TAC include ease of application, patient comfort during application, and avoidance of wound distortion from the injection of local anesthetic solution. This technique has been proven safe and effective in numerous published studies and has gained wide popularity among emergency departments. More recent studies suggest that alternative cocaine-free topical anesthetics are equally effective, with the benefit of decreased risk and cost.


Toxicity and Adverse Reactions
Although adverse reactions to cocaine seldom occur in the medical field, those that do may be rapid, unexpected, and severe. Other good alternatives for anesthesia are available, and many surgeons have ceased using cocaine because of its unpredictable effects and the risk of having such a highly addictive drug in the office.

Cocaine toxicity may have profound adrenergic effects on the CNS, cardiovascular system, and respiratory system. Sympathetic stimulation of the cardiovascular system may lead to hypertension, tachycardia, ventricular fibrillation, and cardiac arrest. Other serious complications include direct cardiotoxicity, angina, myocardial infarction, cerebrovascular accident, transient ischemic attack, pulmonary edema, hepatotoxicity, intestinal ischemia, seizures, and CNS depression.

Cocaine readily passes into breast milk and across the placenta, an important consideration in patients who are pregnant or nursing. Stillbirth, preterm labor, and abruptio placentae may occur. Intrauterine growth is also restricted. These often-profound effects on the fetus may continue after birth. Developmental delay is common in children born to mothers with cocaine in their system.


Management of Toxicity
The cornerstone of treatment for cocaine toxicity is early recognition and action. The treating physician must curtail the operative procedure and remove any remaining pledgets. Immediately activate advanced cardiac life support protocols, including intubation and defibrillation if indicated.

Above all, seek help immediately. In a hospital setting, assistance is readily available. In the office surgery setting, call emergency services (ie, dial 911 in the United States) immediately. The surgeon must direct resuscitation until assistance arrives. This requires that any surgeon using cocaine in the office be familiar with advanced cardiac life support protocols and have the proper equipment on hand should an emergency situation arise.

Cocaine toxicity has no known antidote. Aggressive resuscitation is the only treatment. In addition to intubation and defibrillation, administering drugs such as propranolol, nitrates, calcium channel blockers, and alpha-adrenergic blockers may be necessary in an attempt to improve coronary blood flow and restore normal sinus rhythm. Control seizure activity with diazepam (Valium), and aggressively treat hyperthermia with cooling blankets.

Contoversies
Controversy still exists over the use of cocaine in otolaryngology. Criticisms include the risks, cost, problems with storage and dispensing, or combinations of these problems. Much of the literature references a survey done in 1977 regarding cocaine use by otolaryngologists. This survey preceded the epidemic of recreational cocaine use and the first reported case of cocaine-induced myocardial infarction. A more recent survey in 2004 showed that physicians in practice less than 10 years were less likely to have used cocaine than those in practice more than 10 years.1 Compared with the 1977 survey, fewer physicians reported ever using cocaine in their practice, and a greater number of adverse reactions were reported.

Recent studies suggest that safer alternatives for topical anesthesia with equal effectiveness are available. The treating physician must be aware of potential interactions between cocaine and other medications, and to consider an alternative if concern about the cardiac status of the patient exists.

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http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/874104-overview
 
my moms a pharmacist and when i was younger i went to work with her one day, and they have a locked narcotics closet/safe there. She had to open it for something and inside there was a jar of cocaine. Luckily i wasnt into drugs yet or that couldve gotten bad. Anyway i asked about it and she said they use it during surgery to stop bleeding or if somebody comes in with a severed artery or things like that.
 
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