Legalise all drugs, say Lib Dems

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Legalise all drugs, say Lib Dems

BBC News
18 September 2006


Senior Liberal Democrats have urged the party's leadership to consider backing the legalisation of all drugs.

Chris Davies MEP said the "war on drugs" had been lost and the only way to undermine the criminals controlling the trade was legalisation.

Speaking at a fringe meeting at the party's Brighton conference, he urged Lib Dems to lobby home affairs spokesman Nick Clegg to change policy.

He was backed by education spokesman Baroness Walmsley.

She told the meeting it was time to "think the unthinkable" on the drugs issue and consider legalisation.

"I think the issue is a no-brainer. We have got to go along this direction," she said.

Drug capital

It would contribute to harm reduction, tackle gun culture, save police time and reduce the amount of drug-related crime including theft.

"We are not talking about selling penny packets in a sweet shop. We are talking about sensible controls," she told the meeting.

She urged party members to "perhaps write to Nick Clegg and say we want more discussion in the party".

She denied the stance was seeking to turn Britain into the drug capital of the world.

"The last thing we would want is for any child to take drugs," she said.

"But also people should have the freedom to put into their bodies what they want without any more harm than they would want."

'Ammunition'

Mr Davies, who is an outspoken campaigner for the decriminalisation of drugs, said he wanted the Lib Dem policy on drugs to be "looked at again".

"I hope Nick Clegg will explore this issue again. I know from brief talks with him he is mindful to do so but I know he is mindful of giving ammunition to his opposition," he told the meeting.

The North West MEP likened the "war on drugs" to the Emperor's new clothes. "We keep saying 'war on drugs' year in year out but it achieves nothing.

"It's time to stop pointing and laughing at this piece of nonsense."

Mr Davies said he had never taken an illegal drug but had once been arrested for possession of a tiny quantity of cannabis he was using to illustrate a point at a public meeting.

'Licensed outlet'

He said state licensed drug dealers could undercut illegal dealers on price and put them out of business.

He also called for a debate about how drugs would be sold once they had been legalised, "if you are going to sell it through a licensed outlet, a chemist's shop or something like a sex shop".

He argued that legalisation could not just occur within the UK but had to happen around the world.

He urged party members to lobby the United Nations, which meets in Vienna in March to reconsider the 1961 convention on illegal drugs, which guides policy around the world.

'Fighting hard'

Inspector Jim Duffy, chairman of the Strathclyde Police Federation, backed Mr Davies' call for legalisation.

Stressing that he was speaking in a personal capacity and not on behalf of Strathclyde Police, the inspector said: "We are not winning the war against illegal drugs.

"We are fighting hard, becoming smarter and sharper; as are those we are fighting against. If the current rules of engagement do not change then we are destined to continue to fail."

He said drug addicts should be given access to substances that "do exactly what they say on the tin".

"Lives could be saved if addicts purchasing regulated drugs could be sure of their strength and purity," he added.

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Sounds like a good policy.. just a shame that their tax policies are so half baked.
 
Skyline_GTR said:
Sounds like a good policy.. just a shame that their tax policies are so half baked.

How so? A brief explanation will do, all i'm aware of is the 50p for highest earners, something which i approve of.
 
They finally took my advice, I don't believe it! :D They've got my vote now. They already had my vote last time, but now they've kept it.
 

Chris Davies MEP said the "war on drugs" had been lost and the only way to undermine the criminals controlling the trade was legalisation.


No shit! This is what we've been saying all along....
 
I'm hoping it will wake up other parties and force them to take this position once they see lib dems gaining a few votes.
 
Wow, if a major party was to support this in a western nation, I think it'd only be a matter of time before things changed all over the world...
 
Skyline_GTR said:
Mr Davies said he had never taken an illegal drug but had once been arrested for possession of a tiny quantity of cannabis he was using to illustrate a point at a public meeting.

I wonder how much credibility he will lose. I really doubt anyone is going to buy that.

It's definitely a step in the right direction, but we really need the older politians with thier old school train of thought to die off. There are just too many close minded people concerning drugs running our nations. I've got high hopes for later generations though.
 
Ernestrome said:
How so? A brief explanation will do, all i'm aware of is the 50p for highest earners, something which i approve of.

I think they're actually voting today at their conference to drop the 50% policy but that's neither here nor there to me.

Their income tax policies (abolish 10% rate and increase 0% threshold to about £7k, and reduce basic rate to 20%) would benefit me to some extent because I earn below average. It might even give me £100 a month extra i think.

BUT, what I don't like the idea of is (in no particular order) exorbitant road tax - it would multiply 10 fold to about £1500 for 2.0l engine cars which are hardly gas guzzlers. I dont have a car at present but will be getting one sometime soon

I don't like the idea of having to pay a shit load more to go on my annual holiday because they're going to hit air travel with big taxes.

Putting up fuel duty further on petrol as they plan, will hit the economy, and directly effect how much cash we all have in our pockets because the cost of distribution effects the cost of pretty much everything.

Replacing council tax with a local income tax is like rearranging chairs on the titanic (and if you live with your gf or partner and you both work it could well cost your household more than at present anyway) - nothing will improve fundamentally until waste and buearcracy is tackled in local goverment and the public sector in general. E.g. I heard it actually costs Hull Council around £50 to change a single light bulb in a public building. It's things like that which is why we struggle with enormous council tax bills.

So that's from a personal point of view that I think overall I'll be worse off.

But the other thing to consider, despite what they claim, is that all of this will make the poorest people worse off because all the Lib Dems are proposing to "give" back is on income tax. The poorest people who are on benefits and not earning income will not get an extra penny but will still be burdened with the extra costs stemming from extra fuel & car taxes.

Above and beyond that I'd have to examine their full tax policy in more detail, I only know the basics but that's enough to make me wary.
 
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This is obviously a "no-brainer" but I don't think the British people and government are ready for legalization. I'm sure it will occur someday but decriminalization and educating the people has to occur first :)
 
Skyline_GTR said:
He said state licensed drug dealers could undercut illegal dealers on price and put them out of business.
No they couldn't. As long as it would be taxed, there would be an illegal trade to avoid the taxes, because that would equal massive profits. For examples, see, 18th and 19th century opium trade in China.
 
eeek! society is NOT ready for legalization of all drugs. not ready in the slightest. and its all the fault of the conservatives who chose to cloud and distort peoples minds for the last 40-50 years. decriminilization is going to be a slow process, if it is to be a healthy one.
 
considering most of what Ive read about how available drugs are in britain, for that particular country this approach now is very appropriate,in my opinion, controls if used properly could be a very powerful harm reduction tool, the only question in place is if it would be worth it if the government were not able to adequetly seize the market. What can be the most dangerous thing in the world should not be in control of some of the most reckless in the world
 
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