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Anon0631

Anon0631

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It's probable that all sorts of law enforcement people keep an eye on this forum and others on bluelight.

How do you think we come across? Is there any possibility that they respect what we are doing to promote safe use and harm reduction or do they think we just promote drug use? Should it be our responsibility to try to instil confidence in them.

Do any of the law enforcement lurkers want to have a say? It would be great if you felt that there was a dialogue to be opened here.

Mods, I'm posting in PD because that's where I hang out. If you feel that this should be moved to a more appropriate section, please feel free.
 
I would think that law enforcement has very little to do with this site/nothing much to gain. They seem to be interested solely in busting people these days, rather than helping the community. Obviously being a drug user, my opinion is skewed. I have met plenty of very kind officers, but since we don't allow sourcing, and the intentions are good, the community is probably of little use to them compared to other communities that are more oriented towards importing/trade.
 
Law enforcement view all drug users as the scum of the earth and would like to see all of them rounded up and consigned to concentration camps.
 
It varies. Law enforcement is really interested in busting you for breaking the law. And just talking about drugs isn't exactly breaking the law, its talking about incriminating activities (especially activities that you plan on doing vs. activities you've done in the past) that interest law enforcement. And of course that is going to be different from law enforcement agency to agency and even within agencies. Use common sense when posting on this forum and you will never have a problem with law enforcement.

I'm going to move this to Support.
 
I think they take it more personally than that - it's like the Nazi opinion of the jews. There's real, venomous personal hatred of druggies.
 
I am of the belief there agents of the government, maybe cops maybe not, who actively spread disinformation about drugs on these types of boards. I spent alot of time on a cannabis legalization site and it was definately infiltrated by people who were there to disrupt. Most protest movements get infiltrated by agent provecateurs (sp). If you protest private industry they hire people to mess up your protest, if you protest drug laws the "other side" is law enforcement. We threaten their livelyhood, they hate us. As for this sites harm reduction information, i don't think they care at all. They oppose needle exchanges, they wouldnt tell the public where i live what the PMMA laced ecstacy looked like, they dont care if legal drugs like spice are worse than pot. They have proven they dont care about our health. I still have to risk stabbing to buy a dime bag of pot if my connect runs out.
My local craigslist page is full of people looking for drugs, and several posts of warning by people who answered one of those ads and were busted. This is small amounts of weed and in canada, i would imagine the american police put alot more effort of busting anyone.
 
I don't know if we threaten their livelihood, if anything we ensure a lot of their numbers.

Maybe we should open an anonymous LEO/member discussion thread, if only to gain and maintain some perspective.
 
Salutations,

As a new member i found, right from the start, that various behaviours on BL could seem so puzzling this actually made me wonder about governmental influence. The lack of vaporism awareness (closely related to cannabic HR concerns) only rendered such a compound situation even more complex... Well, BL is probably doing a great job, depending on the perspective. At least they don't need to care about the Cannabis area!

:|
 
To be honest, Cannabis discussion is special in that it doesn't seem to be overtly gung-ho on the HR in the sense of actively promoting vaporization as a standard, but many of the regular posters do so.
 
Salutations VenRak,

Venrak said:
...Cannabis discussion is special...
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Yes, and my bet is perhaps it's because of some sort of "1st-line respondant" state of mind or else... What do you say?

Venrak said:
...it doesn't seem to be overtly gung-ho on the HR in the sense of actively promoting vaporization as a standard, but many of the regular posters do so.
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Too many web sites still fail to advocate healthier consumption methods, most probably as a result of the inital cost involved when buying a decent-quality vaporizer... Affordable solutions usually come with a set of trade-offs, better used in a Plan-B scenario - e.g. during short absences away from home, for example. Yet, personally i don't regret going through my vaporist initiation with a good table unit first, then i got my Plan-B after i gave it more thought than i should have it seems. Anyway, i'm glad to learn that there are many more of us vaporists on this board. In addition, although i'd urge anyone to consider switching a cigarette for a vaporizer, under normal circumstances, it's always a good idea to read reviews written by others before buying one!...

=D
 
Salutations Enki of the Ocean,

Enki of the Ocean said:
Who knows. Probably can't be used in court any way.
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If you're refering to the status of vaporizers then i'd think the real test would be when a card holder can finally be seen using one in court, for example...

But would it be possible at all?

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There was a bluelight meetup busted around 2001 in florida. The story is buried somewhere in the archives i cant be bothered to dig it up. Though that was 10 years ago im willing to bet the alphabet boys keep a watch on here for intelligence. The local narcotic cops might check the city specific threads but i doubt it just because the rules on sourcing and locations are so tight now. But who knows leos priorities are usually fucked up anyway
 
^ This might be the thread you are referring to, or at least what TLB was referring to in his post in that thread.
 
I don't want to mention names, but there's a forum that prides itself on "intelligent discussion" Yet every other thread people refer to themselves as swim, swiy, my pet iguana, dog, etc. thinking they are circumventing self-incrimination. They don't close threads on disallowed topics like here. I'd say our community is run well and our mods run a pretty tight ship here.
 
I wonder if that guy who was asking for help selling dope at a specific diner with a specific outfit ever got caught or a customer really

lol he goes "HR drug dealing"

that is hilarious
 
Salutations Shimazu,

shimazu said:
..."HR drug dealing"... ...hilarious
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Hummm... Maybe he sells "bio" at 3 $/g or something? At least this would be "HR" in the economical sense since that could impact some budgets, etc. Hence, at such a bargain cost, this would help to avoid repercussions potentially capable of impairing physical/mental health under diverse situations, go figure - which might explain the "HR" link!...

Etc.

=D
 
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