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Labour warns [the long-term unemployed] "We are coming for you"

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Ismene

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Labour warns unicorns "We are coming for unicorns"

You out of work good for nothing BASTARDS! 8)

And you thought the Tories were bad.

Labour has said it would withdraw benefit from the unemployed for six months if they refused a government-provided job guarantee after completing a placement on the work programme.

Byrne said: "The right to work must carry with it a responsibility to work.

"The truth is that the government is actually weakening the obligation to work. It is perfectly possible under the government's arrangements to sail through two years of the work programme and straight back on to the dole on the other side. We don't think that is good enough."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/mar/10/labour-welfare-benefits-work-programme
 
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Surely it would then be an incentive to get out and look for a job, one with better wages than dole money they have to work for!

I think this is a fucking great idea, get the nation out working again..
 
I will just tell them to fuck off and turn to crime, I would rather be in jail than giving away my time for free working as a slave.
 
Capitalism works well when there are less job opportunities than there are job vacancies..

Which is and probably always will be the case in this country.

Slave state..

They're trying to build a prison.
 
those who can live comfortably off £53 a week are probably intelligent enough to be economists. fucked if i can do it.
 
Ismene said:
You out of work good for nothing BASTARDS! 8)

And you thought the Tories were bad.

Labour has said it would withdraw benefit from the unemployed for six months if they refused a government-provided job guarantee after completing a placement on the work programme.

Byrne said: "The right to work must carry with it a responsibility to work.

"The truth is that the government is actually weakening the obligation to work. It is perfectly possible under the government's arrangements to sail through two years of the work programme and straight back on to the dole on the other side. We don't think that is good enough."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/mar/10/labour-welfare-benefits-work-programme
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im far from conservative but my god, you seem to have a mega chip on your shoulder about literally everything

do you have something against working? not really related to the original post but it seems that you are an anarchist?
 
Cornishman said:
The Daily Mail covered this story last week.
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Thanks for that. My first proper laugh of the morning. :)

Typical of the kind of populist gesture favoured by opposition parties, safe in the knowledge that they'll never have to act upon it. Chances are that come the next election it won't even be in their manifesto, let alone something they'd actually commit to seeing through.

Looks like Miliband et al are missing the point (predictably) by trying to win back Middle England and the 'hard working families' when they should be working on regaining the confidence of their former core support and relying on the haplessness and all-too-apparent ineptitude of the Coalition to bring the rest of the nation onside.
 
Cornishman said:
The Daily Mail covered this story last week.
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Hey - now you mention it cornish - this mornings headline in the Heil - "Bankers cash in with 42 million in bonus" - not even an article on it in the Guardian (get on the case SHM!)
 
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Red Arrow said:
do you have something against working?
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What has "working" to do with "taking benefits away"? Arn't they two seperate things? Do you want to see people starving in the streets? Crucifixion too good for em?

but it seems that you are an anarchist?

I'm not an anarchist but several of my very good friends are :D

I used to think you were allright too arrow - you make Attila the hun sound like Tony Benn.
 
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Personally I think the whole bru situation is out of hand over here. Why is it that when I drive through most estates during the day all people around 30-40 are at home with their cars parked, out doing gardening stoned out while working people have to pay for it. I've no problem with people who genuinely can't get a job or have legitimate reasons not to work, but for those who simply can't manage their drug habit or just can't be fucked well I can't be fucked paying for you. It's about time you got a job, the routine will do them good anyway, specifically if it's for a drug habit.
Sick as well of all the dicks I have on Facebook who moan about how they didn't sign on right or their bru fucked up. If you've such a big issue with it stop fucking claiming and go get a job. There are jobs out there, they aren't always the highest paying ones, but there are always jobs. Fair enough if you apply and don't get through, but there are people out there just living day-in day-out on the bru and it's about time they actually did something with themselves and it's also ruining it for the people who genuinely need it to feed themselves and a family. You aren't given the money to spend on a score bag.
I'm not a big fan of working, we work till we die basically, but it's unfortunately how the world works. Sometimes you have to do things you don't like doing, if you can't well that sums up your character entirely.
 
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totally agree..


This bit as more in response to Ismene


Yeh but surely it's good for your own morale to be working? Earning your money must be one of the most satisfying parts of life, as both combined then allow you to have a more fulfilling balanced lifestyle imo
 
SamhainGrim said:
Looks like Miliband et al are missing the point (predictably) by trying to win back Middle England and the 'hard working families' when they should be working on regaining the confidence of their former core support and relying on the haplessness and all-too-apparent ineptitude of the Coalition to bring the rest of the nation onside.
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Perhaps they believe England is furthur to the right than the tories on this issue? They could be right.
 
Ismene said:
Working is one thing - being forced into any job at the threat of starvation is another.
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Erm lol starvation, what so it ok for people just be handed money and NEVER have to do any work in anyway, no thats shit, get the fuckers working!

Too many work shy people in Britain, we have all had shitty jobs at sometime, thats life!
 
Ismene said:
At least they're trying to keep busy.
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I don't think that's trying to keep busy mate, more so they have nothing better to be doing with their time. Those Jeremy Kyle repeats get a bit old after the first 5 years or so.

I completely agree with you and the threat of starvation, but unfortunately it is how the world works. When I saw gardening it's not like they are growing vegetables either and trying to lower the amount they spend on shopping etc, more so tending a few plants then going back inside to sit around for another few hours. The thing is at the end of the day humans have always been forced to work for food or starve, be it the first of us going and collecting plants or the modern person working for a massive business to go for a weekly shop at Tescos. Unfortunately while people have taken and corrupted it a bit and made it harder, it's just something we still have to do and there is no way out of it.

I agree with Bluebell the whole satisfaction thing is a good thing, unfortunately we shouldn't have to deal with it but as we do we may as well try and take something positive out of it. I swear by routine in a drug users life, I think it's essential and working is one of the easiest ways to get a routine going for anyone who wants to take large amounts of drugs and keep somewhat level headed afterwards. While this thread isn't about drug users and the bru I just thought I'd throw it in.
 
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