So this is a vent post , sorry if i come off annoyed beforehands .
I started kratom a while ago , while i did had some good moments with it it turned on me rlly fucking fast . I take a good red strain (red borneo) now i get massive anxiety from it , chest tightness , faster resting hr , pounding heart , feelings of independing doom . Its not the quality because it was quite potent . I get these side effects only after a month of intens use 15/20g pd . Also massive reduction in libido and orgasm sensation which obviously is known . I also used suboxone for my ghb cravings which helped tremendiously for over a year . I always snorted my suboxone on doses between 1/2.5mg . Suboxone at some point also gave me anxiety but only after a year of usage and no where near as bad as kratom giving me anxiety . With suboxone i didn't even feel any wd at all and tapered myself with very small amounts over a couple of days . While i always readed suboxone was this evil medication , yeah rlly ? Go fuck yourself . I will never ever listen to anyone that says anything on forums. Suboxone was way more stable compared to that garbage plant matter called "kratom" . Also spare me the whole strain thing cause i get this with every strain from any vendor . With subs at least i know its 100% pharma grade . Kratom what a joke , i barely believe this substance helps with cravings for more hardcore opioides like heroine . like rlly ? How the hell is it suppose to do that if the effects get so bad real freaking quick? Kratom what a fucking joke , no wonder its legal . Last day i woke up in sweats and anxiety from only a short amount of time on it . I hate this garbage gross plant matter . FUCK KRATOM ! And i am gonna laugh my balls off if its gets banned . For real opioide abusers, subs is the way to go not fucking kratom but SUBS . I also highly doubt kratom would block any real wd from a strong opioide , while i know i only would need to snort 0.25mg of suboxone to remove any wd from kratom . so just my thoughts on this "miracle plant kratom" .
Greetings .
I started kratom a while ago , while i did had some good moments with it it turned on me rlly fucking fast . I take a good red strain (red borneo) now i get massive anxiety from it , chest tightness , faster resting hr , pounding heart , feelings of independing doom . Its not the quality because it was quite potent . I get these side effects only after a month of intens use 15/20g pd . Also massive reduction in libido and orgasm sensation which obviously is known . I also used suboxone for my ghb cravings which helped tremendiously for over a year . I always snorted my suboxone on doses between 1/2.5mg . Suboxone at some point also gave me anxiety but only after a year of usage and no where near as bad as kratom giving me anxiety . With suboxone i didn't even feel any wd at all and tapered myself with very small amounts over a couple of days . While i always readed suboxone was this evil medication , yeah rlly ? Go fuck yourself . I will never ever listen to anyone that says anything on forums. Suboxone was way more stable compared to that garbage plant matter called "kratom" . Also spare me the whole strain thing cause i get this with every strain from any vendor . With subs at least i know its 100% pharma grade . Kratom what a joke , i barely believe this substance helps with cravings for more hardcore opioides like heroine . like rlly ? How the hell is it suppose to do that if the effects get so bad real freaking quick? Kratom what a fucking joke , no wonder its legal . Last day i woke up in sweats and anxiety from only a short amount of time on it . I hate this garbage gross plant matter . FUCK KRATOM ! And i am gonna laugh my balls off if its gets banned . For real opioide abusers, subs is the way to go not fucking kratom but SUBS . I also highly doubt kratom would block any real wd from a strong opioide , while i know i only would need to snort 0.25mg of suboxone to remove any wd from kratom . so just my thoughts on this "miracle plant kratom" .
Greetings .
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. The fact that this shit turns on me after just a couple of weeks if laughable in my opinion because i didn't notice much shit after being on subs for over a year . Really weird honesty . Also hydrocodone and codeine are like baby opioides . Codeine barely does anything to me . But like you say different strokes for different folks is a true statement for sure . Thx for your reply !