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Opioids Kratom Pods Addictiveness

cnnka

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Hello I’m new member here but I’ve been lurking here for quite some years.
I’m 28 years old. I’ve done quite a lot of drugs and different but have not addicted to anything just nicotine and I’m also a weed smoker until I was 14 years old.
I’ve done a lot of mdma , coke in my younger years and also had some experiences with mushrooms and freebase DMT. I’m also using benzos from time to time if I have crippling anxiety but that would count to less than once per month. I’ve tried them all however but if I need something for anxiety I stick to alaprozam and lorazepam.

Now to the main subject of my topic.
I’ve done opioids th less of all drugs I can count my experiences to one hand.

First time I did try an opioid was about 17 years old before a surgery they IM’d me with morphine. It was very much an experience I did nod instantly and couldn’t understand if I was sleeping or not I’ve also had a “dream”

Lots of years forward I had an infection on my mouth , pain was unmanageable I prescribed codeine , who wouldn’t take the pain away and also gave me side effects , not any euphoria not any high. In that time period I did try mitrarginine for the pain , it worked for two days and it also gave me a little high.

My weed doesn’t cope with me so well anymore , it doesn’t get rid of my anxiety and also I feel is bad for my mental health , however I’m still smoking it cause I need “something” in the end of the day to help me relax so I moved on to more medical grade and I’m doing okay.

A week or two earlier I did buy some red vein kratom try to substitute for weed. (I don’t search for a substitute as I know only weed I can smoke everyday without getting addicted)
First time I maybe took to much for someone without opiate tolerance was about 8g I only got side effects and not much high I did have high heart rate, nausea , sensitivity to light and sound.
I continue experiment for some day after with 5g’s I didn’t feel anything only very very subtle feeling if at all.
A day after I did take 7-8g in form of capsule and toss and wash , also I did smoke weed this night after a little break of 10-15 days.

After about 2 hours after ingestion and while I smoked weed , a wave just hit me and it was rather intense , warm feeling , euphoria , relaxation and a subtle nausea, I continued smoking weed that night low dosages and about some hours later I was pretty fucked up from kratom plus weed I couldn’t even walk straight , but the last wave was full of nausea maybe because I ate a lot , and the day after I had heavy legs , running nose , and I was hot while it was freezing outside , hangover , and a general unwell “I can’t” feeling who did pass rather fast , the 3-4 days later I was still constipated not that I did not go to toilet and was just hard and wasn’t my normal toilet habit I did also had abdominal pain from constipation.

I have gave a swear to never try heroin to myself as I’ve seen the results in others.

But I did always wanted to try opium and was fascinated for it.
Unfortunately I can’t score opium is very rare in here.

So I was thinking of try pod tea. Now I’ve seen that is very addicting dangerous etc etc , I don’t have an addictive personality , but I tend to try the drug for 3-5-7 times before I’m done with it.

Now my question is , is it worth it to try the pod tea?? I’m gonna do it once every 15 days or once a month until my stash is over.
I liked the kratom feeling for once in a blue moon to treat myself and relax proper on a Friday night. But I really dislike the taste and the constipation.

Would pods make a good alternative for kratom if I wanna treat myself every once in a while, or I just better stick to kratom for that purpose??

I mean I really gonna do it every once in a while so maybe I better have a full opioid experience .
How does the high compared to a kratom high with someone with no tolerance and also are pods every once in a blue moon gonna make me crave harder opioids and such ?
I’m not gonna let me try any other opioid or go down the hole trying to score H or pills etc
 
You think kratom causes bad constipation; opium induced constipation is on a whole other level.

Generally I'd recommend sticking with kratom. Opium is one of the most addictive drugs out there, and is by far the most addictive naturally occuring drug.

I grew some poppies and gave some opium to my girlfriend when she was having cramps. I've given her various narcotics in the past, like vicoden, kratom etc and she never seemed to find them appealing. But the opium was different. She asked for it again, and seemed to truly enjoy it. That of course was the last time I gave her opium.
 
You think kratom causes bad constipation; opium induced constipation is on a whole other level.

Generally I'd recommend sticking with kratom. Opium is one of the most addictive drugs out there, and is by far the most addictive naturally occuring drug.

I grew some poppies and gave some opium to my girlfriend when she was having cramps. I've given her various narcotics in the past, like vicoden, kratom etc and she never seemed to find them appealing. But the opium was different. She asked for it again, and seemed to truly enjoy it. That of course was the last time I gave her opium.
Constipation is a standard side effect I know but I feel I was constipated due to how much plant material I had ingested more than the opioid effect of constipation.

I’m very intrigued to try opium that’s the last drug I want to try and is on my list all other boxes are checked and I’m certainly not interested to try any other opioids. Ideally for me would be raw opium just like you grew it and you consume it. I may grow some poppies in the wild if I really set my mind into it.

How does kratom compares to full opium experience ? I’m getting good euphoria from it but I feel somewhere is lacking and is also gross. Do you think from your personal experiences that some people can keep opium consumption in bay ?
I mean I don’t really “love” the opioids effect from the times I’ve tried opioids so I may be able to keep the consumption in tact.
I’ve got a stash full of amphetamines benzos etc I don’t even touch them except weed if I had addiction type personality I would certainly consume them , but maybe is different with opium. I certainly know I can keep it stashed without touching it as I have a stash of codeine morphine etc but these are only for medical usage if I’m in unbearable pain for some reason me or any other family member it’s better to have them and not need them rather than need them and don’t have them.

Also let’s say someone gets addicted to opium like consuming it every week or every two days etc because it’s natural and you can certainly grow it or get dried poppies legally do you think that because you can grow and get it legally that someone could keep his life together only consuming natural opium and not getting in trouble with the police and with harder opioids ?
 
I'll use a sexual metaphor--

Opium is a peak lovemaking experience with your true soulmate.
Kratom is your routine jerk-off in the shower.
Liked your metaphor I had a friend who was hooked in the past on H and had described to me just with the same words , he’s clean a lot of years now.
So every once in a while isn’t better to get that great peak rather than jerking off
Because jerking off leaves you “hungry”
 
Liked your metaphor I had a friend who was hooked in the past on H and had described to me just with the same words
Glad he's doing better now.

Sadly (here in the USA), real heroin would be better than what's being sold as H these days. Actual heroin is a rarity. What addicts are getting is fentanyl or fentanyl + xylazine, both of which are high risk but low euphoria.
 
Back in 1978-82 while I was in college, I had a friend from Syria who nearly always had opium & hashish. We'd smoke both together and it was a delicious and delightful high. We didn't smoke it every day, though, and eventually I lost touch with him and real opium.

If I'd had continous access to it, I'm certain I'd have become an opium addict. In my 20s I tended to get hooked on anything pretty easily.

So yeah, I have very fond memories of opium, but probably only because I didn't continue to smoke it regularly.
 
Glad he's doing better now.

Sadly (here in the USA), real heroin would be better than what's being sold as H these days. Actual heroin is a rarity. What addicts are getting is fentanyl or fentanyl + xylazine, both of which are high risk but low euphoria.
Here in Europe we still have real heroin I live in a Mediterranean country so maybe that’s why.
To continue with the metaphor, that wonderful relationship becomes toxic & controlling. No fun at all.
I wouldn’t get addicted to anything as I haven’t and tried a lots of different drugs and many times I only love to vape nicotine and smoke weed but the weed doesn’t get me quite right as it used to , and I had great love for ganja for 15 years and I still smoke it only at nights after work but doesn’t seem to work like it had for so many years.
I wouldn’t certainly get hooked on H as I have seen then results from friends and family members.
Back in 1978-82 while I was in college, I had a friend from Syria who nearly always had opium & hashish. We'd smoke both together and it was a delicious and delightful high. We didn't smoke it every day, though, and eventually I lost touch with him and real opium.

If I'd had continous access to it, I'm certain I'd have become an opium addict. In my 20s I tended to get hooked on anything pretty easily.

So yeah, I have very fond memories of opium, but probably only because I didn't continue to smoke it regularly.
Hasish and opium the ultimate combination that’s why I’m so intrigued on opium and wouldn’t care for any other opioids , I just like to eat and smoke that sticky stuff who remind hasish and I bet the pleasure is 10x to that of hash.

Do you have tried pod tea ? From dried pods who are legal?

I got some mitrargynine extract for tonight to test it if it’s good I’ll probably stay to this for the moment. I’ve tried extracts in the past but wasn’t impressed plain kratom had better effect on me but maybe was the dosage , I’m gonna try 90-120mg tonight has been over 2 weeks since the last time I ingested kratom.
I’m so intrigued for dried pods gonna order them some time and try what they have to offer otherwise I’ll try to find some pods as they grow everywhere here. I wanna keep it very rarely but I’m so curious how’s the high gonna be.

I like to have stashes of everything and raw opium is on my radar.
 
Do you have tried pod tea ?
No, and I'm really not interested. I had a serious opioid addiction for several years, so I've had more than enough of all that.

Currently, my only daily habits are nicotine gum and powdered kratom. I don't do extracts.
 
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