Misc Kratom Parade : Officially rained on.

[soundsystem00]

I have been taking Kratom daily for years. Lagre quantities..Other than occasional dizzies, I seemed to have gotten away with heavy usage scott free.

Well, last summer I started to notice some weird shit. I would sometimes stop breathing ( at night or when napping and laying down ), and spend long periods of time short of breath and get some weird chest pressure/chest pain. I have had a really hard time diagnosing this. Recently, it spiked and I felt faint, which was not something that I ever felt before, so I went to the ER. They did an EKG and an XRAY and said that everything is perfect and that I have a healthy heart and am experiencing heart palpitations and that it was normal ( that costed $1600 and my whole evening by the way ). The side effects are continuing and I am reading more and more reports of people getting the same exact things from kratom!! A homegirl of mine actually said she just had to go to the hospital and was pronounced dead for 6 minutes and induced coma for 2 weeks because of her kratom usage and having an underlying heart murmer problem.

I have drastically lowered my dose. It was three regular spoon fulls ( level ), up to 8 times per day. Now it is two regular spoon fulls about 4-5 times a day and I feel like shit phsycially but my cardio health seems to be better. Although I have noticed, the other day at a low dose, a cup of coffee gave me some heart pain.

So here are my theories :

1. Acid reflux.

2. PAWS from 800mg gabapentin 3x daily (quit 6 months ago then started again for a month until I tapered off again about 2 months ago.. ps the stopping of breathing happened directly after discontinuation of the gabapentin but maybe the kratom intensified that)

3. underlying heart issues although I have had test after test after test

4. too much kratom

5. too much vaping

6. too much fast food

7. not enough exercise ( I do a 30 minute intensive workout 1-2 times per week )

8. Anxiety ( but I highly doubt it, as I have always had intense anxiety and never remotely experienced this )

BUT I have noticed that lowering my Kratom dose has helped a LOT so I am hoping that is all it is. But it has never done this before so that makes me think there is an underlying heart condition that is continuing to worsen, although E.R. tests have shown nothing. Maybe I need to go to a speicialist to further diagnose things, but it seems to have been a waist of time, not to mention money, for quite some time now.

MAYBE my pals here at BL can help me get to the bottom of this! I have faith in you guys! WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME!!!


Fuck!!!

-soundsystem00

 

[nuttynutskin]

Damn, thought this was going to be about some ban or something. Not sure exactly what you're experiencing op, but I gotta think that taking that much kratom is going to cause problems. Sorry I don't have better advice. Do you know how many grams your taking now? 3 "regular" spoonfuls 8 times a day sounds like a shit load. Hopefully you'll feel better now that you're cutting back.

 

[soundsystem00]

Haha sorry about that. I have been watching too much YouTube and getting too clever with the click bait.

Anyway, that is fine I appreciate your response.

I go through 1 KG per month if that helps.

 

[nuttynutskin]

You could always try eliminating or cutting back other things to see if that helps. My guess is it's the kratom tho.

 

[soundsystem00]

You could always try eliminating or cutting back other things to see if that helps. My guess is it's the kratom tho.

Exactly! Thank you. I think so too. My body is starting to adjust to cutting back, so today I feel pretty good. And I have been having some vodka at night to ease the discomfort and it has almost elimnated it. that being said, I am still taking a lot but its 50% less than before and I can already tell a difference. But I am also having to cut back on caffeine. Energy drinks will instantly make me short of breath.

I use to wake up every morning and have a big cup of kratom and a monster. lol.

 

[Sertürner]

On top of the kratom, vaping before bed can lead to many unwanted side effects. Dehydration, shortness of breath, and anxiety. I vape alot and I have to cut myself off at a certain point before bed because I will not sleep well throughout the night.

 

[Xorkoth]

Holy shit, I thought I used to take a lot of kratom! Honestly I abused kratom to the tune of 50+ grams a day for many years and never experienced any health problems besides severe constipation and of course, withdrawals like clockwork at 6 hours. I think the best thing to do is taper. Sounds like you're doing that already. Might be good to go to the doctor if the symptoms persist after cutting way back, or getting off.

 

[soundsystem00]

On top of the kratom, vaping before bed can lead to many unwanted side effects. Dehydration, shortness of breath, and anxiety. I vape alot and I have to cut myself off at a certain point before bed because I will not sleep well throughout the night.

Very good point! I am bad about that. I have never felt a direct reaction after vaping, Usually I feel instant reactions after I dose or drink some coffee. Lately, I feel my heart getting pissed right when I take a small dose, and that is after cutting back FIDDY PERCENT aka 50%

but yes, I have been cut back all week, and the symptoms are very very low now. I feel almost totally fine. Hopefully it was just too much Kray.

Holy shit, I thought I used to take a lot of kratom! Honestly I abused kratom to the tune of 50+ grams a day for many years and never experienced any health problems besides severe constipation and of course, withdrawals like clockwork at 6 hours. I think the best thing to do is taper. Sounds like you're doing that already. Might be good to go to the doctor if the symptoms persist after cutting way back, or getting off.

I did a shitload of it. But for a long time, I felt fine doing a massive amount. Didn't even make me constipated anymore. And since I was lucky enough to land a babe, the sexual side effects are pretty much non existent since shes basically a pro ( no really she should be paid or awarded in some way ) and that has been helpful. So yeah basically no side effects until recently. I often hear people say that it is anxiety related, but lemme tell y'all, I have EXTREME anxiety and have never noticed any physical effects from that.

I have a really boring job where my boss knows I do kratom and does not care. So I basically have 8 hours where its just me and the kratom.. The bag will be looking at me, begging me to dive in.. I usually end up getting bored and just drinking it and pretty much losing track of how much im doing. I feel like I am "almost there" every dose but never quite get there until night time when the ounces and ounces of kratom build up and give me a small buzz... And make me feel short of breath.

 

[Sertürner]

I have kilos upon kilos of the stuff at the house. I dose about 10-20g 3x a day. I have never noticed any side effects except the dehydration, and yeah it seriously depletes the amount of water in my system. I piss like a racehorse on kratom, when I take kratom haha. As for sexual side effects, I have had none. I have had a serious problem with PE ever since I quit heroin. Heroin/potent opioids are only thing that fix that issue, which is weird because I never had that problem before I used H. When i use kratom in 40-60g throughout the day, the worst I get is a stomachache and sometimes a headache depending on the strain.