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Opioids Kratom or Lopes for 7 day withdrawal?

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I have taken 20 mg of lopes when I ran out of my 100 mg per day Opie habit with pretty good success. I seem to run out 1 week before I have my monthly doc visit. I was introduced to Kratom recently and tried using it last month during my 7 day lapse. It didn't seem to work as well as the lopes. Anybody want to chime in to quell the turmoil for 7 days without Opie? Lopes or kratom? What works best? Or a combination or the two? Always looking for the easiest 7 days off Opie. (I have chronic back pain due to a car accident, and have no recourse but opioids )JS
 
Ok. I use green kratom. I have a bottle of 120. 72 grams. 0.6 per capsule kratom. How many should I take immediately to halt withdrawal from 100 mg oxy daily use? Looks like 10 caps equal 6 grams
 
jerseyshark said:
Ok. I use green kratom. I have a bottle of 120. 72 grams. 0.6 per capsule kratom. How many should I take immediately to halt withdrawal from 100 mg oxy daily use? Looks like 10 caps equal 6 grams
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I'd take 5 or 6 grams and see how you feel. Kratom doesn't last long so you might find yourself needing to dose every 4 hours or so to avoid withdrawal. One of the reasons its not great for tapering unless one has an iron will
 
Dextrometorfan 60mg every few hours + Loperamide ( u shouldnt need to exceed maximum advised daily doske ).
DXM totaly eliminates pain and flu-like Ed symptoms and loperamide will help u with diarrhea and it slightly synergizes with dxm. But dont forget that dxm in high dose or after some buildup in your body Is very psychedelic. If u want to just chill without wd and without dissociative psychedelic dxm effects, add benzos.
 
WellTram said:
Dextrometorfan 60mg every few hours + Loperamide ( u shouldnt need to exceed maximum advised daily doske ).
DXM totaly eliminates pain and flu-like Ed symptoms and loperamide will help u with diarrhea and it slightly synergizes with dxm. But dont forget that dxm in high dose or after some buildup in your body Is very psychedelic. If u want to just chill without wd and without dissociative psychedelic dxm effects, add benzos.
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Are you saying add this to a kratom regiment?
 
jerseyshark said:
Oh yeah!! Big time
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I know. I just took some.

( Lope ) :cool:

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kratom = better now


maybe try both Kratom after Lope.


- - - I know the struggle is real.

<3


but I cannot take kratom so I have to Lope.

it's a bit too soon for me. :(

TC - take care 🔥
 
WellTram said:
I suggest reduction in kratom or u can even try only DXM + Loperamide. Some comfort additional meds are benzodiazepines, muscle relaxants. DXM + Lope in right dose eliminate every aspect of opioid WD.
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I used lopes before. Work good, but can't poop...people say more dangerous than kratom?
 
Loperamide (Immodium) is known to be cardiotoxic in high dosages. It was a much more popular recourse years ago. We had guides and FAQ's all about Loperamide.

It wasn't uncommon for heavy users to take 100mg-200mg Loperamide at a time. Then we all became wise to the dangers or the practice. We still discuss its usage. We do so with a disclaimer. We recommend Loperamide as a last resort only.

That being said, 20mg Loperamide isn't extreme. I'm not a doctor. If you ask me, I'd say using Loperamide like this for 5 days isn't going to kill you. However, for obvious reasons, you shouldn't be doing this regularly. Harm Reduxtion would ideally have you finding a better solution to these situations.

I'm a big fan of standardized dosing units. We are dealing with substances that are known to hijack our minds. It is nice to have something amidst all of the bullshit that one can refer to in an objective way.

The Loperamide works. You know how much you're taking. It's only for 5 days. My suggestion would be to stick to this. I don't recommend doing this regularly.
 
Keif' Richards said:
Loperamide (Immodium) is known to be cardiotoxic in high dosages. It was a much more popular recourse years ago. We had guides and FAQ's all about Loperamide.

It wasn't uncommon for heavy users to take 100mg-200mg Loperamide at a time. Then we all became wise to the dangers or the practice. We still discuss its usage. We do so with a disclaimer. We recommend Loperamide as a last resort only.

That being said, 20mg Loperamide isn't extreme. I'm not a doctor. If you ask me, I'd say using Loperamide like this for 5 days isn't going to kill you. However, for obvious reasons, you shouldn't be doing this regularly. Harm Reduxtion would ideally have you finding a better solution to these situations.

I'm a big fan of standardized dosing units. We are dealing with substances that are known to hijack our minds. It is nice to have something amidst all of the bullshit that one can refer to in an objective way.

The Loperamide works. You know how much you're taking. It's only for 5 days. My suggestion would be to stick to this. I don't recommend doing this regularly.
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10/4 o worthy one
 
jerseyshark said:
Ok
Anything you'd recommend for tapering if your oxy gone
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Unfortunately I don't have a good recommendation for tapering with Kratom. It is addictive in and of itself so you'd basically be replacing one thing for another. A lot of people have had success tapering with kratom, others have found it difficult or impossible. I'm one of the people who find it impossible. It's mainly difficult due to its short duration and a lot of people experience inter-dose withdrawals. Like feel withdrawals before you're due for your next dose.

I'm currently attempting a taper but haven't made much headway. I'm currently at 6 grams of kratom every 4 hours. I'll probably do that for about a week then go to 5.8 grams every 4 hours, then 5.6g every 4 hours and I'll continue until my dose is .5g every 4 hours and then hopefully I'll hop off without too much discomfort. I just find tapering with kratom very difficult because it's easy to justify taking more when discomfort pops up. If you have willpower and are determined to quit then you'll be able to do it
 
Yea @SuperPsych I would recommend separating the powder into pre-packaged units. Powders prey on our most basic psychology. You can always add just a couple more stray granules. Then you suddenly realize you're out of Kratom. I hope it works out for you buddy. There are a lot of people on here with Kratom experience who can probably give you some advice.
 
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Yea @SuperPsych I would recommend separating the powder into pre-packaged units. Powders prey on our most basic psychology. You can always add just a couple more stray granules. Then you suddenly realize you're out of Kratom. I hope it works out for you buddy. There are a lot of people on here with Kratom experience who can probably give you some advice.
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I appreciate it! I was actually going to do that tonight. I have a lot of empty pill bottles and a scale so I'll weigh them the night before and keep my kratom away in the closet. It's easier to make excuses to take an extra gram or two as I'm weighing it out. I think it'll be easier to stick to the plan with the pre-weighed units. I would like to give the sublocade shot a chance but my insurance recently ran out. Was on Suboxone for a while then had to switch to kratom for that reason
 
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