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Kratom - First time - Surprising...

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OsterHase

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Kratom - suprising...

Experience: Was expecting something among the lines of a big mild high but things got much more interesting,as I later explain :)

Method of dosing: Tea

Dose: Around 15g of leafes

Preparation Method:
This is were I think i've screwed up a bit...

Put the 15g of leafes in a pot with about 500ml of water, waiting for it to boil abit and then pured the resulting water to another pot.
Then put another 500ml of water on the first cup and boiled it with the same 15mg of leafes.

After that I put all the resulting poured water in a cup and left it boiling gently.

The resulting water amounts of the tea were too much for the among of leafes used...Ended up having 1 liter of Kratom Tea....

The taste is WAY behiond bitter to say the least, even with sugar added it was pretty nasty...which I wouldn't think it would be by its smell...Anyway stupid me ended up drinking the whole 1liter of tea really fast (thinking it wouldn't work)


0-10min after taking: I don't seem to fell any effects and was doubting about the stuff and relating with other reports were people didn't felt nothing.

around 30min: I start to sweat and my body temperature starts to rise alot...I get on a t-shirt and open the window...I was pretty hot (even with the window open and sub 10ºC temperature in the street), I start to fill a mild eye, getting relaxed and all that.

around 30min-4hours (sorry but it will be hard to precise more): Things get very interesting to say the least, I was listening to some music and it just felt so good and great, my eyes were like if not inside me and I had some "delay" when moving (my eyes took time to catch), I felt a bit dizzy but nothing too serious (to loose balance,etc..) in fact it was kinda fun.

Now the wierdest of all (specially due to my problems), I felt a major urge to communicate, and send lots of messages to people and even called a friend (something I never do), I was felling very relaxed and high but without ANY sort of negativity thougths or ideas, everything seemed "right".

Then due to beeing a bit sick I went to bed and stayed there for like 30m-1h and at first I was so easy to fill the music and to focus my mind in the many different happy random thougths I was having..meditation was a bliss at this stage, even beeing a bit sick.

I then lost track of time and processed to sleep, I felt to well, so ok, so fine I didn't even changed 1cm from the initial position I went into the bed.

By the time I woke up I was no longer felling hot and body temperature was reducing, the effects seemed to be going away but I still felt a bit loose and with something similar to a weed BIG high.

(...)

Later after I had dinner and drank more water, things got screwed and I endedup puking some time later...I dont think it was all due to Kratom itself but rather the fact I've boiled the tea too much and drank 1 liter of it so fast.

I ended up not drinking nothing (went to a party after puking) in the whole nigth and tho I was no longer under noticisable Kratom effects I spend a pretty chilling nigth (and it was cheap also ;) lol)

The Day after: Went to sleep and selpt like a baby, the day after I had a similar to alchool hangover, was felling a bit down, headhackes, nausea sometimes,etc...

The Day after that: That would be today, I would say things are almost back to normal tho I think I still have lots of liquid waiting to be pissed ;)



Veridict: Well I wasn't expecting nothing similar to this, specially considering that the 15mg leafes dose was considering "ligth" on most places i've researched.

The effects were amazing and the wierdest of all was without a doubt the urge to communicate which for something like me (social anxiety, depressed and introverted) was something nothing short of great :)

I still dunno how the medication I take affected the effects and day-effects, Paxil seems to when combined with alchool result in much bigger hangovers.

Will I do it again? I think so, not anytime soon tho, since I will give time for my body to readjust, plus the bitter taste of it is still in my mind ;)


Amazing and i'm suprised its legal...

:)
 
Be careful... some sources of "kratom" are in fact super kratom, which is much more potent than the norm. I've been one of the subjects that has gotten the super kratom sold as kratom and I must say, 15g was a lot more than I bargained for. With this stuff, as little as 3g gives me effects, with 5-7g being the sweetspot.

The only thing I don't like about this stuff is that if you miss the boat for a good dose - underdose in other words - it is unnervingly stimulating. Almost as bad as a tweak high, only with extreme vertigo and in some cases, vomitting.
 
I think this is normal kratom, specially considering how much it costed! but thanks :)
 
The first time I drank Kratom tea, I was very surprized how strong it actually was.

The best way to make the tea is as follows:

Bring 1 liter of water to a boil in a sauce pan.

Add desired amount of leaf material (preferrably crushed up / powdered)

Add some lime juice to make the solution more acidic, and also because it makes it taste better.

Boil the water until there is about 250ml of water left in the sauce pan.

Pour the tea through a fine mesh strainer to catch the larger leaf bits. Keep the leaf bits and tea separate.

Add another liter of fresh water to the pan. Put the leaf material that was caught in the strainer back in the pan and boil it.

While that is boiling, take the tea from the first boiling and pour it through a coffee filter. This gets rid of all the very small leaf particles, making it MUCH easier to drink.

After the tea goes through the filter, squeeze the last portion of water out of it, and put the leaf material that was caught in the coffee filter into the boiling water.

Once the water boils down to about 250ml again, strain and filter it again. Now you should have two containers with very clean, leaf particle free Kratom tea.

The 500ml is too much to drink at once, so wash out the pan, and start boiling your tea down to about 100ml or less. The more concentrated you make it, the less you have to drink.

Don't boil off all the water, or it turns into this really hard resin (which can be smoked, but it's not as good as the tea).

If you do want to make the resin, make sure to get every last bit of leaf material out of the tea.

Once your tea boils down to about 50-100ml take it off the stove.

Pour the liquid into a microwave-safe (important) glass container. I use a 500ml Pyrex measuring cup.

Put it in the microwave. You have to keep a very close eye on it.

Keep microwaving it until all the water boils off, but before it gets all hard. Keep taking it out and checking it, until you get the hang of it.

Once it's done, you have to scrape it out quickly with a spoon or something before it hardens. Depending on how much water you boil off, this stuff can dry into what seems like superglue!

Smoking it is pretty fun, not as effective as the tea though.
 
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Imagine how my stomatch felt after drinking 1 liter of very boilded kratom tea (ok it was only 15mg leafes) but still i think you get the idea..

No idea why it tastes to sab..the smell is actually enjoyable.. :(
 
I would imagine that yes, puking was fairly inevitable after ingesting so much liquid. I like this report, but....there's just something about kratom that doesn't ring my bell *shrugs*
 
I recommend some alkaloidal resin. I took about 600mg tonite and it feels nice. It didn't taste terrible either, I could have swallowed the stuff without water.

It is quite opiate-like. The alkaloid in there must be an opioid. Very little difference between the feeling I have now from this and something like codeine.
 
The alkaloids in kratom are indoles, much like yohimbine and ibogaine in structure. But they do have opiate-like effects on happy Mr. Mu.
 
GFunk02 said:
I recommend some alkaloidal resin. I took about 600mg tonite and it feels nice. It didn't taste terrible either, I could have swallowed the stuff without water.
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are you talking about kraton resin extract? if so are the effects of eating it the same as those of drinking the tea.

im also curious if anyone has tried smoking the resin extract. what were the effects?
 
I smoked some. It produced a very uncomfortable stimulating effect. I was not able to smoke enough to get past the stimulation phase and into the narcotic phase. Pity.
 
Ironically, my first ever batch of kratom resin just arrived in the mail. I'll probably wait until Sunday to make a tea (working most of the week), but I will more than likeley smoke some tonight and get back to this thread.
 
^ I don't know where in the world you are, but are you sure you want to confess posession of it?
 
I take it that the dose for smoking kratom is the same as that used to make the tea.
Thats quite alot of material to smoke but i love that method of ingestion and will soon be trying it with the kratom resin extract.

Are there any differences between the resin extract and the leaves when it come to effects and dosage?
 
Cat Again said:
I take it that the dose for smoking kratom is the same as that used to make the tea.
Thats quite alot of material to smoke but i love that method of ingestion and will soon be trying it with the kratom resin extract.

Are there any differences between the resin extract and the leaves when it come to effects and dosage?
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Depends on the resin and method of smoking.

If you are using resin that was made by evaporating all the water off of some strong tea, then good luck smoking enough to get past an uncomfortable stimulation.

A more refined alkaloid extraction is required if one wants to get strong effects from smoking kratom...stay tuned for a trip report.
 
You bastards and your effects from kratom. *shakes fist*

I drank an ounce. Little to no effects. :(
 
I heard something about a lot of fake kratom being sold.

Could it be that human?

Try a google search.
 
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