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kratom- first time- loads of fun w/terrible hangover

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jonah_222

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powdered rifat strain kratom
2 grams oral
5 grams oral (next day)

medications: seroquel 200mg at night
222 lb male.

Well, hmm. Finally got some kratom in. Been wanting to try it for a minute, having heard good things about it. Figured i'd start off on the thresh-hold region and have two grams powdered leaf with water. get my feet wet, see if there were any problems with my medication. ( i didn't anticipate any, and none arose)

stirred it up. looked like mud. chug-a-lug.

having not eaten for most of the day, i almost instantly got alerts. naturally i thought this was placebo, but no. it lifted nicely into the experience. pleasant euphoria, skin tingles. dreamy is a good word for it, but not the otherworldly feels like i'm in an aquarium stuff i get from marijuana and others. or to say, it was lucid. felt a desire to communicate. my toes felt really good. and so on. lasted about an hour, with mild after effects for maybe 15-30 minutes afterwards.

i was impressed.

my lover came home from work. she had two grams herself. Hated the taste, and seemed to enjoy it nonetheless. similar effects.

next day decided i'd ramp it up a bit, see what's going on with the larger doses. figured i'd take it to the low-strong area with 5 grams.

once again, the old adage "work your way up slowly" was ignored. and once again, i have paid the price. i'm going to learn someday.

anyhow, measured out five grams. stirred it up. chug-a-lug.

the uhm, the tingles werent there so much this time as a strong sedating effect. the come up was a little more rough, and there was some tummy-rumbles. felt terrific, really. but with a bit of an itchy spin on it. went up, went down.

and once i was down, i felt like utter garbage.

But what was strange is that this effect did not occur immediately. the experience seemed to be over for the most part, on par with what i had experienced so far, and then there was about two hours of just feeling normal, but a bit sickly. just a tad bit, head-achy type stuff, you know.

but then, oi: it hit me. the most awful stomach ache. and i felt sick like, in my head region. like a migraine headache feels, but without the migraine itself.

yuck, overall.

laid down and itched, and itched, and itched. laying down helped with the swimmy head and the stomach aches a little. still feeling a little yucky the next day.

So, if i had to say anything about all of this: yeah, it's fine and dandy stuff.

don't overdo it. you'll regret it if you do.

-j.
 
Damn, you seem to be pretty sensitive to the stuff, maybe your medication? I always use 12 grams, and to me it feels like a rather strange opiate buzz, the strangeness being enhanced colors, music amplification, etc. like a +1 psychedelic experience, but not really because the opiate-like effects tend to dominate after the first half hour. Hard to explain. The only problem i have with kratom is that it tastes REALLY DISGUSTING. Otherwise, a good high, and i never got a hangover from it.

I like the stuff about as much as hydrocodone, but prefer a good oxy high. Well, i prefer a good oxy high to just about anything. Kratom to me is like a more stimulating, less itchy hydrocodone buzz, but i'm still pretty stoney/noddy after 12 grams.

Good report.
 
Hmm.. I don't get very may side effects with Kratom. I only use the Rifat strain powder, and I normally use anywhere from 3-9g. At 9g, I get some nausea but nothing terrible. However, the next day, I do get a hangover, though it is just that. I don't feel like I'm experiencing Opiate detox, and that makes it worth it for me. I can handle feeling like shit, but I hate having those grinding cravings in my stomach. That's why I stay away from Opiates, and now I have an Opiate-like drug that isn't nearly as addictive.
 
I wouldn't suggest preparing the kratom like that. You need to filter out all the leaf material before you drink it. The only times I've felt sick or not well from kratom was when I actually ingested the leaf material.

I really enjoy Kratom. I usually make tea with 12g powdered leaf. Basically I just boil powdered leaf in water with some lime juice, strain, filter, repeat and finally reduce the volume to the size of small cup of tea.

The taste is awful, but definately worth it. I usually take a few anti-histamines before I do kratom to help with the itching. Smoking weed with it is awesome - usually I won't even be able to move at all.
 
nice report, itching is a pain in the arse isent it ;p
 
I always have frequent urges to piss, much more than usual, but just like actual opiates, it's rather hard at times, heh. I just take the stuff, throw it in a cup, heat it in the microwave for about 4 minutes on high in a big cup, and as the original poster said, chug alug. It takes disgusting, but my stomach is strong, so individual experiences, especially people who get nausea on opiates, will often reflect upon kratom also. I like the stuff quite a bit, as opiates are my favorite drugs, and this shit for me is pretty damned similar, if not nearly entirely extrordinary on it's own. If kratom becomes illegal, i'm ready to crush some skulls.

I'm quite stoned and the little toke of salvia i took, make me need to turn the page in the universal book.
 
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