Killed by her first ecstacy

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Killed by her first ecstacy
Brian Lashley


A MOTHER wept today after hearing how her daughter died after taking the dance drug ecstasy for the first time.

Sian Sadler, aged 18, took two pills - including a pink love-heart shaped tablet - in Manchester's Sankeys Soap nightclub. A Macclesfield inquest was told that she had bought the drug for just £2.50.

After taking the tablets, Sian, of Knutsford Road, Alderley Edge, needed help to walk.


Her lifeless body was discovered the following day by her boyfriend at his house, where she was staying.

Her mum Yvonne Sadler, a civil servant, said the last thing her daughter told her was she was going out again into Manchester after she had been to the city earlier in the day.

Sian had gone for the night out with boyfriend James Curtis and his friend Richard Dee in April and they all agreed they would take ecstasy.

Inside the nightclub, they approached a woman who sold them three tablets and they took one each.

Mr Curtis of Finney Road, Wilmslow, told the inquest he only gave her half of the love-heart shaped Ecstasy pill because he knew it was the first time she had taken it and he was "worried about her".

He added that he thought she should take it in small doses.

Drained

He said: "I remember her coming to ask if we were going to get any more and we lied to her. Then she came back to me later on saying she had one off someone else. I went up to the man and asked why he had given Sian another one."

After leaving the club and getting in a taxi home, Sian looked drained and complained of feeling ill.

Toxicology tests discovered traces of Ecstasy in Sian's body although it was not a large amount. Her cause of death was given as ecstasy toxicity.

Recording a verdict of misadventure coroner Nicholas Rheinberg said: "It's of course a matter of regret that medical assistance was not sought but bearing in mind that the individuals that were with Sian had also taken a similar quantity of Ecstasy with alcohol it may be that their usual judgment was impaired."

http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/men/news/s/177/177634_killed_by_her_first_ecstacy.html
 
Sad story. I actually live two minutes walk from Sankeys - enjoyed many a night there. Actually, when I think about it, this might be why all the clubs in the city have had a signs on the door about bag searches, siting "recent events" as the justification.
 
I was thinking the same thing... doesn't really make sense. But then again, the source is the Manchester Evening News, so I wouldn't really anticipate a story that bothered to look at the details or raise the difficult questions.
 
whatta n00b.



- she must have taken other things... im guessing they just know of her taking drugs and they just call it ecstacy. notice how they dont use chemical names just 'ecstacy'
 
There was no mentions in the article about her taking other things. It clearly states that the cause of death is ecstasy, not alcohol and ecstasy.

Or is it just impossible to die from one pill...
 
Toxicology tests discovered traces of Ecstasy in Sian's body although it was not a large amount. Her cause of death was given as ecstasy toxicity.

other drugs in the E pill? some that might not combine well with alcohol? who knows. we could all be good little citizens and believe "ecstasy toxicity" though, that would make it easier wouldnt it
 
Ecstasy toxicity???? i remember reading on this forum ages ago that the amount of MDMA required to be lethal is something like assuming each pill has 75mg of mdma you need around 30 pills?? Im not sure of this and i have searched but could not find the statistics i wanted... can someone please confirm this, ecstacy toxicity from 1.5 pills i very confused
 
whatever the lethal dose, they said there were "trace amounts" of ecstasy. to me it seems sort of ridiculous how they listed the death as e toxicity
 
Some additional background info

8 June 2005

Link

Drugs pair escape with caution after girl's death

SIAN Sadler . . . died after night out TWO teenagers arrested following the death of 18-year old, Sian Sadler of Alderley Edge, have been cautioned by police for drugs offences and released.

They will not face further criminal charges in connection with Sian’s death. Aged 19 and 18, the two were arrested after she collapsed at the end of her first night out at a club in Manchester.

The cause of her death has not yet been disclosed but fears that the drug ecstasy was involved were raised after Sian collapsed at a friend’s house in Finney Drive, Wilmslow, following a night out at Sankeys Soap in the city centre.

Police confirmed on Monday that the 18-year old suspect from Wythenshawe and a man aged 19 from Wilmslow had been cautioned for possessing drugs. They had been on police bail, following their arrest on suspicion of supplying a class A drug.

Police are now preparing a file for the Cheshire coroner’s office and an inquest is expected to held.

Sian, of Knutsford Road, and a former pupil at Wilmslow High School, was working at fashion shop in Grove Street, before starting a course at teacher training college. She was planning a holiday in Ibiza in the summer.

She died on Sunday, April 24, after she went out with friends the previous night to the club on Jersey Street, Manchester. Emergency services arrived at 10.27am and paramedics gave heart massage, but she died later at Macclesfield District General Hospital.

A post mortem was carried out, but the cause of death was withheld pending further tests.

In a statement her father Philip, a plumber and mother Yvonne, a civil servant said: “Sian was a beautiful 18 year old girl. She was so kind and loving. She was such fun to be with and had a brilliant sense of humour.

“Sian was a hardworking and very popular girl who was always smiling and happy. Her tragic loss has left a void, that can never be filled, for her father, mother and 13 year old sister.”

A spokesman from Cheshire Police said: “Following the death of Sian Sadler, an 18-year-old male from Wythenshaw and a 19-year-old from Wilmslow were arrested for drugs offences. Both men have received a caution for the possession of drugs.

“There are no ongoing criminal investigations and we are now preparing a file for the coroner.”
 
So what we can deduce from this:

A post mortem was carried out, but the cause of death was withheld pending further tests.

Is that they couldn't actually pinpoint a precise cause of death, but because pathologists don't like putting down "unknown cause", they said it was "ecstasy toxicity" which they can get away with, but isn't necessarily the case. This practice is not uncommon in drug related post mortems.
 
Until it can be proven that it WASN'T MDMA that killed this girl, then noone should speak for either side of the story...

although not often, there have been a few cases of clean doses of MDMA killing people... I'm not saying it's common, or even happens more than once a year, but it has happened. That's the risk you take, even with clean MDMA--choose wisely.
 
i always wonder in situations like this that there may be foul play involved.

The government is losing its battle against the war on ecstasy, people just don't care about how dangerous they make it out to be.

So why not throw in the odd, highly publicised death of a young girl just taking one tablet for the first time. Just to try to scare people a little.


I'm just a natural skeptic though ;)
 
It's sad if it is true...i felt the same way about the parapalegic kid who supposedly tongue dipped a vile of 2c-t-21. It seems like the most heart wrenching stories are the ones to get played up always. Not sure if this is a function of government control, or if the media just knows the citizenship are whores for misery.
 
hazzard002 said:
Some people can have adverse reactions to ecstasy alone. This may just be a case of that.

It may well be... but would that take a day to kill her?
 
Crazeee said:
Sian Sadler, aged 18, took two pills - including a pink love-heart shaped tablet - in Manchester's Sankeys Soap nightclub.

Well i reckon those love hearts contained other 'nasty' adulterants which would explain the nasty hangover effects and the weird bad trip my girlfriend experienced on them! *freaky* There was also another death reported where someone died from taking one pink love heart and wasnt there a brief warning about them love hearts?
 
yah pretty shifty on such low dose, maybe she got a dirty dxm pill off the second guy?

or worse, she was on MAOIs?

or both?
 
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