Heroin Kicking it cold turkey..

[SecondChances]

I've been a heroin user for the last few years and enough is enough. In just a few short hours I will start day 1 of WD's. I'm using the Thomas recipe as I have read on here many people have had success with it. I know everyone is different though. I'm just sick of going through the misery that heroin brings into my life. Yeah I shoot up and feel great for 8-12 hours but then I have to do it all over again. I'm moving back home on Friday so this is my last chance to get clean and start a new life. I know this next week is going to feel like death has me by the throat but I've went through WD's twice before and relapsed (though I was at a lower dose then), but I know I can do it again.. This time for good. I'm new to BL but have always come here for info from time to time. I just have one question, I have immodium on hand, how much should I take to help with the WD's? Other than that I'm just looking for support as I am doing this alone. If anyone else is kicking the habit cold turkey feel free to PM me as well.☺

 

[trip407]

Go to a doctor and try to get clonidine and/or pregabalin. Also i would consider a rapid buprenorphine taper if you come off a full agonist. Weed and benzos can help you with sleep. If you cant get none of this, that Thomas recipe seems like the best possible option. Hot bath are always good if you are in full wd, even with all that medication you will feel bad. But a thousand times better then cold turkey, i personally would not consider wd without these medication. Even if you need to visit an inpatient detox, this would be a better option in my opinion. In my country they are free, so you can safe money on foods, and there is people you can talk to and spend time talking or going into the gym.

 

[kvsouth69]

I am so proud of you because that take more strength to say that's it and follow through. Follow the above poster--you wil need a BP med to keep your bp under control. I have read even tht otc loteperamide helsp GREATLY for heriod withdrawals, the diarrhead, and even the other symtoms. I wont' pretend i know what you ae going through, but i have been through benzo withdrawals and came very close to ending life. If there is anyone here who can relate, can you pm wtiha phone number..? He will get through this, but so much easier with someone else who udnerstands and cares. I'm sending postive love your way. You can and will beath this
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[NaMean517]

I got over my most recent round of addiction a couple months ago, heroin is a real bitch, that lope you got there is magic, I had so much trouble quitting without it, 12 to 18mg constipated me alright but then again, I got colitis so im not much to go by. Just remember that withdrawal is only temporary "for the most part" if you take that step, keep walkin". Only thing keeping you from sobriety is yourself, if you really want it, it can be acheived. As the other posters above me suggested tho, seeing a doctor will help alot, even without detox, comfort meds help tremendously, wish I wouldve seen a doc. If you need to PM someone who can relate, im always happy to help how I can.
Hope this works out for you.
Good luck.

 

[SecondChances]

Go to a doctor and try to get clonidine and/or pregabalin. Also i would consider a rapid buprenorphine taper if you come off a full agonist. Weed and benzos can help you with sleep. If you cant get none of this, that Thomas recipe seems like the best possible option. Hot bath are always good if you are in full wd, even with all that medication you will feel bad. But a thousand times better then cold turkey, i personally would not consider wd without these medication. Even if you need to visit an inpatient detox, this would be a better option in my opinion. In my country they are free, so you can safe money on foods, and there is people you can talk to and spend time talking or going into the gym.

I don't even know where to start to look for a doctor that isn't going to charge me an arm & a leg for a script. I've got the multivitamins, b6, ibuprofen, serequol, lope, and a potassium supplement. I called around to the detox centers here and there aren't any opening so I'm SOL.

 

[SecondChances]

I am so proud of you because that take more strength to say that's it and follow through. Follow the above poster--you wil need a BP med to keep your bp under control. I have read even tht otc loteperamide helsp GREATLY for heriod withdrawals, the diarrhead, and even the other symtoms. I wont' pretend i know what you ae going through, but i have been through benzo withdrawals and came very close to ending life. If there is anyone here who can relate, can you pm wtiha phone number..? He will get through this, but so much easier with someone else who udnerstands and cares. I'm sending postive love your way. You can and will beath this
!\

Thank you, I really appreciate it. Aren't benzo WD's worse then opiate WD's though? I've heard horrible stories about people going through that. Are you off of benzos for good now?

 

[SecondChances]

I got over my most recent round of addiction a couple months ago, heroin is a real bitch, that lope you got there is magic, I had so much trouble quitting without it, 12 to 18mg constipated me alright but then again, I got colitis so im not much to go by. Just remember that withdrawal is only temporary "for the most part" if you take that step, keep walkin". Only thing keeping you from sobriety is yourself, if you really want it, it can be acheived. As the other posters above me suggested tho, seeing a doctor will help alot, even without detox, comfort meds help tremendously, wish I wouldve seen a doc. If you need to PM someone who can relate, im always happy to help how I can.
Hope this works out for you.
Good luck.

I really appreciate the support. It's nice to know I'm not the only one. I always thought I was the exception and heroin could never control my life, but years went by and it had the worst grip on me. Even though I hated doing it sometimes the fear of WD's would have me scrambling to get a fix. Congrats on being sober, stay strong. I know sobriety is not an easy road, it's for the rest of our lives.

 

[streetpharmacist84]

If you cant get any suboxone, subutex, zubsolve etc. I would consider ordering some kratom of the internet. Here in ca some head shops sell it I dont know about Nevada. If you dont mind me asking OP.......Im assuming you were using black tar and how much per day? Kratom has worked wonders for me in the past...however Ive never tried to fully quit opiates as I am disabled and have chronic pain, pretty severe at that. I used to smoke black tar, and like you I always thought I was an exception, and it would never grip me like that.............soon enough I went from buying a couple p's here and there to not only me smoklng it, but my wife too and going through a gram every two days, sometimes more and not even using my prescriptions trading them off or selling them for barely anything to get the next foil. The only thing I can be proud of is I never injected. I still crave it once in a while and I can't say Id not take a few hits if it was in my face........but I cut all those people out of my life and its pretty rare I see it. What really got to me at the end was all the shady people, short bags and cut bullshit you get which is just business as usual in the game of H. It disgusted me, Ive been around hustling my whole life and these people I was dealing with made me sick........shadiest shit ever. Get off it man.......sounds like you dont need it. Try to get a sub doctor, my wife is on it and her doctor gave her a 200$ coupon.

 

[namnoc16]

The physical part in the first couple of weeks of wds is bad but I feel the worst part for me was the mental fog and emptiness that follows much tougher to deal with(so emotional I felt like a chick pmsing).Your body no longer produces dopamine on it's own and it takes sometime for your system to kick into gear and get you back to normal.Please don't fall into the trap once you can sleep again you are all good because (at least inho) the depression and everything that follows is worse. What I'm trying to say is if you a suboxone detox or buprenorphine and be gradually weaned down seems to be much more successful then any other type of detox

 

[Bropiace]

Hopefully I will not get flame for saying this AND I do not want to hinder your resolution. I think you are making the only long term sensible choice.


That being said I am an opiate addict and have been for a little more than year. My usage escalated quite fast to a peak of 680 mg of Oxy daily, yet I never graduate to H nor did I used as long as you did.


The point I want to make is your detox might be harder than mine yet did detox 3 times (and relapsed 3 times). My first detox was from 680 mg of Oxy daily.


Basically, if it is an option for you, my advice would be to try and taper as much as you can and then some before quitting cold turkey. I understand it is not always possible (most likely financially) and it takes a great deal of discipline. But from my limited experience, it will make a huge difference. Also, I heard from a few people that IVed that starting to snort instead of fixing is helpful in reducing your tolerance and tapering.


I would also support what namnoc16 said and for me, after 9 days sober, my state was somehow even more difficult than going through the acute withdrawal phase.


I am followed by an addiction specialist (MD) and we conclude that tapering some more would help tremendously with that as well.


No one is the same and will feel and deal with withdrawal the same, we can only share what works best for us. I have been tapering for months and switched from Oxycodone to Dilaudid and I am now at 24 mg / day and still no where near my target to quit again but progressing slowly each weeks.


I might have sounded like I made this post about me however I really wanted to emphasize that your best chance of success are a successful and slow taper.


But again it is not always possible. If you can't afford the taper and need to stop now :


Hot thub are your best friends. Epson salts helps TREMENDOUSLY with muscle aches. I think magnesium in it also helps with withdrawals.


Drink a lot of water. Between diarrhea and vomiting, you will be dehydrated. Gatorade and other sport drinks are helpful.


Keep your mind distracted. Download TV series, movies you wanted to watch, everything to keep you from thinking about how miserable you are.


Know that it is ONLY TEMPORARY. This has helped me much (and is probably the main reason dealing with PAWS was the worst part for me).


Masturbation helps relieve some tension. It wont be long and tedious either.


Try to walk a bit each day as soon as it is humanly possible. Exhausting yourself and teaching your brain back to produce endorphin might help you sleep or with the restless leg syndrome. Even if it doesnt, progressive increase in exercise is probably the most impacting action you can do to accelerate your recovery so the sooner you take the habit the most benefit you will get out of it.


Increase the walk as much as you can each day. When the acute symptoms have passed try a bit jogging and try to progress VERY slowly but constantly.


And finally, if you find yourself relapsing after going through all this, and ONLY if you have already purchase what you need and ARE SECONDS AWAY from relapse, 1st BE CAREFULL ON YOUR LOWER TOLERANCE. A lot of people OD because of that so use 1/3 or less of your usual dose. I sincerely hope you succeed in quitting. However if that happens, it is better that you live to fight another day. Should that happens, you have options. Consider only snorting instead of IVing again. Also my greatest and fastest improvement in tapering where after quitting for a few days. You can abuse your new found tolerance and be back to square one or you can capitalise on your effort of the last days and keep your usage minimal, continue to taper and set yourself for a greater chance of success next time.


Do not think I am saying you can't go through because you can. I've known people who IVed and have quit cold turkey and have been off opiates and still are for years.


Remember the reasons you are doing it. Know it is a slow process. Know everything you endure can ONLY GETS BETTER with time.


I wish you the best of luck and congratulation to start your own journey toward freedom.

 

[namnoc16]

Tapering ones self (imho) is an exercise in futility,I'm not saying it can't be done but is very hard. I mean if it was that easy to get our addiction under control we wouldn't have become addicts in the first place. I can only speak for myself but if I'm my own doctor and pharmacist the dea would becoming to shut me down for overprescribing. I've tried to hold onto enough drugs to wean myself and I'd usually say fuck it do em all and I'll get sober tomorrow.You need to remove your poison completely(no such thing as being a little bit addicted,you are or you aren't).

 

[namnoc16]

tried to edit post it wouldn't take.Anyway Bropiace you are right I missed it in first read that you are tapering with medical pro my apologies.

 

[Bropiace]

Well I've definitely had my shares (and still have) of fuck it, I'll do more and deal with it later.

However to each their own. I've been successfully tapering for months despite slipping here and there.

Addiction is part physical and part psychological and for different person, the struggle is more psychological and for others it is the physical part.

It is true that when someone is ready to quit altogether that's his best asset. However there is such a thing as minimizing the difficulties linked to quitting and if someone is able to do it, tapering will raise his chance for success.

However I'll concede it is not for everyone and one should do what works best.

 

[Bropiace]

And I've just read your second right after posting mine.

Namnoc16, I do not feel you owed an apology and you made some valid points.

And you made me realised I assumed what worked for me would work for everyone. I should have warned that it is a viable solution for some but it will screw over others.

So I think all in all your comment was quite pertinent.

And also, I am followed by a doc specialised in addiction however he is not prescribing so in a sens I am exactly that, my own doctor.

He was kind enough to accept seeing me on a monthly basis, I share my progress, I ask advice, we discuss options. I might end up on Sub but that is what I am trying to avoid. And ultimatly, I am getting my shit off the street so I am probably exactly how you pictured me

However, for me at least, it works.

Anyway no harms done.

On a sidenote I would be happy to hear back about the OP's progress.