Kicked out of my house, because doc gave me vicodin.... (long)

[cr250owner]

So for the past 3 or 4 months I wake up once or twice a week with a very minor lower back pain. I always just get up and go on with my day as it's not very bad at all.


Then one day i wake up and my back is in MORE pain than normal but still not unbearable. However the following day i awake in pretty bad lower back pain...

I let a few hours pass to see if anything got better and it did not. I then decided to go visit a NO APPT doctor because it was a Saturday and i couldn't get in to see my Primary Care. The doctor diagnoses me as having muscle spasms and writes me a script for Ibuprofen 800 and a muscle relaxer called flexeril.

I got home and popped my flexeril as suggested and within ten minutes my heart was pounding and racing. I couldn't call the doc that had written the script because they had already closed for the night. I instead called the ER and they told me to come in...

The ER runs tests and finds that everything is fine, obviously i have a reaction to flexeril so they wrote me a new script for another muscle relaxer. I can't recall the name but i drop off the paper script at my pharmacy on my way home from the ER. The next morning i went to pick it up and the pharmacist tells me my insurance won't cover it and that it's going to cost 200 to fill. I don't have that sort of money so, the pharmacist suggests I go back to the ER because it is now Sunday and my doc is still off.

By now I'm on my fourth visit to a medical professional of the weekend. This time they write me a script for x15 somas and x30 5mg vics. At this point i'm finally relieved to know that i'm done and get go home and relax. WRONG

I got home and told my parents what i had been scripted and immediately we got into an argument because in their opinion I was faking my back pain and had gone to the docs only in search of drugs. Granted I am a drug user I could EASILY make a call to get any drug rather than going through the three day ordeal i went through.

Please tell me if i'm wrong or you understand where i'm coming from....

I would have been just fine taking flexeril on the first day, but had a bad reaction. I would have been just fine taking the 2nd muscle relaxer had it not cost 200! It's not my fault on the doctors 3RD attempt they finally write the common cure for pains.

Basically my point is... had any of the first meds worked I would have been completely satisfied, i didn't wish for them to not work.

 

[jackie jones]

hmm.... yes.

Did you not know that drug users and/or people under 60 cannot do not have any pain? Seems to be the usual consensus of people 'round these parts as well.

 

[adder]

Do you literally mean "kicked out"?

From what you wrote I can see you've got a tense situation at home because of some past drug problems. I don't think a lot of parents can understand such a situation.

Did you talk to them before you had your first visit about your pain? Did they know about this side effect from cyclobenzaprine and you had to call ER and then you didn't have 200 to buy prescribed meds? This is where the problem is in my opinion. I mean, if they had been more concerned about your pain, it all wouldn't have happened.

I know how you must be mad and upset at the same time. It's not like we had here so many drugs around illegally sold 20-30 years ago. It's a different era here for sure, junkies may be still considered dregs of society for many but the problem of addiction is now recognized by regular people.

What kind of drug problems did you use to have or do you still have? Filling your parents in would be a solution. I know they might be resistant but it's worth a try. I'm a damned addict now on clonazepam and methadone and I managed to explain there's no chance I can just quit this all and I pointed out reasons. I know it's not seen as it really is but it's probably the closest I could get to.

 

[Jabberwocky]

i know the OP personally. he WAS a heavy opiate user and his parents were aware of it. he was doing much better at the time of this doctor ordeal, but just the fact he was at one time an opiate user, and still was just maybe not as much...i see why his parents would think he's doing it for the drugs, they know what opiate/heroin users are like. i think with a sober mind OP would see it a bit different. but who know's i'm high.


but this is my opinion so don't take any of that as fact

i was actually just with the OP 20 minutes ago. we smoked some jwh.

 

[panic in paradise]

hmm.... yes.

Did you not know that drug users and/or people under 60 cannot do not have any pain? Seems to be the usual consensus of people 'round these parts as well.

I think this is correct actually... my body is a cornicopia for chronic pain, physiological mayhem, and horrible adverse reactions to many common meds, but... 28 more years of this and relief? o tay. illl be waiting, and worse!
:D

get an actual diagnosis OP, and maybe your folks will get a new bed and shoes,


if you do get some sort of diagnosis affecting your back, i can give you a head start of info

 

[naginnudej]

Give your parents the bottle and tell them to give you pills at certain times of the day if you're serious about sustainable pain management.

Also work on fixing the back pain, not just covering it up. Muscle spasms don't happen unless something triggers it. Show your parents you're not trying to do this forever. All these docs just writing you scripts without any other sort of advice is kind of a waste in the long run IMO. But hey, someone's gotta help the big pharma's out, right?

 

[cr250owner]

get an actual diagnosis OP, and maybe your folks will get a new bed and shoes,


if you do get some sort of diagnosis affecting your back, i can give you a head start of info

the official diagnosis from my original doctors visit was that i was having a muscle spasm. He described it as almost a small lump where the muscle was so tight.

Idk i'm no doctor thats just what i interpreted.

hmm.... yes.

Did you not know that drug users and/or people under 60 cannot do not have any pain? Seems to be the usual consensus of people 'round these parts as well.

HAHA you can't imagine how funny that was to me because my parents said take some tylenol, you don't know pain. Then as i was explaining my situation to my aunt she decides to inform me of how much physical pain my other aunt is in daily and yet is able to function without pain meds.... meaning if an old(er) person can deal with their pain naturally than so can I.

i know the OP personally. he WAS a heavy opiate user and his parents were aware of it. he was doing much better at the time of this doctor ordeal, but just the fact he was at one time an opiate user, and still was just maybe not as much...i see why his parents would think he's doing it for the drugs, they know what opiate/heroin users are like. i think with a sober mind OP would see it a bit different. but who know's i'm high.


but this is my opinion so don't take any of that as fact

i was actually just with the OP 20 minutes ago. we smoked some jwh.

Yes it is true Opiates used to be a daily thing but only at about 30mg(roxi) for about 5 months. I am by no means "clean" however i have realized what mistakes I've made and am working on not repeating them. Back to our story..

If i was faking my pain in an attempt at meds, why would i waste my full weekend and have an IV jabbed in my arm just to tell the doc I have back pain? I coulda told the doc i hurt it in a car accident, I crashed my dirtbike, was blindsided during football practice... all of which would have allowed me much easier access to pain meds. Not only that how many of you have several numbers in your phone that are only there as connects lol. It's not a problem to obtain really any drug for me.

Here is my parents argument to the above statements... They believe the motivation behind going to the doctor was the fact that i would get cheap or even free pain meds... A VERY LOGICAL ARGUMENT, i give them credit.

HOWEVER.. start at the beginning, it wasn't my fault the flexeril sent my heart into the 115BPM range(which was verified by the attending ER nurse, I didn't just notice my heart rate was increased). And again it wasn't my fault that my insurance wouldn't cover the 2nd medicine that was scripted(I wanna say it was called skalaxin or something similar, look it up it's not cheap). and Finally It isn't my fault I was given pretty much the only options left available soma and vicodin.(I'm not sure the vicodin was necessary but i'm not the one who spent time in Med School.) Understand where i'm coming from?

Just to put the icing on the cake I even informed my parents of the fact that i was given soma and vicodin before i even physically had them. I could have said the name of another common drug or hell even made one up and they would have never known. I guess lying is good sometimes....


Feel free to take my parents side too, as i'm interested in everyones opinion.

Thank you for your replies so far

 

[panic in paradise]

if the pain continues or gets worse, see another doc.

i have arthritis through out my body, and other ' scary' painful progressive life long things going on, I am acclimated to an extent, and payed close attention in physical therapy. some people need opioids, because they vomit, "trance", scream in agony, lose many hours of sleep, suffer extreme emotional & physical stress(so do loved ones), lose mental capacity from lack of sleep, or think its rediculous to live in immense pain.

not every one is at a level to deal with it, pain is different for every one, and there are many options for relief. it would of been more effective for you to have a couple of 15 minute messages, and an hour with a good physical therapist.

like i said if this continues, see a second MD, and take home copies of everything, ask him to put in plain readable english.

sorry this became such an ordeal.

 

[cr250owner]

if the pain continues or gets worse, see another doc.

i have arthritis through out my body, and other ' scary' painful progressive life long things going on, I am acclimated to an extent, and payed close attention in physical therapy. some people need opioids, because they vomit, "trance", scream in agony, lose many hours of sleep, suffer extreme emotional & physical stress(so do loved ones), lose mental capacity from lack of sleep, or think its rediculous to live in immense pain.

not every one is at a level to deal with it, pain is different for every one, and there are many options for relief. it would of been more effective for you to have a couple of 15 minute messages, and an hour with a good physical therapist.

like i said if this continues, see a second MD, and take home copies of everything, ask him to put in plain readable english.

sorry this became such an ordeal.

I agree with everything you said, but i'll admit to anyone that i wasn't in "I literally can't move pain" but I do know the difference between back stress and something more complicated.

I jumped up on the exam bed and within 5 seconds of feeling my specified area of pain he said muscle spasms and went on to explain them to me.

I guess it would have really helped if I had mentioned the fact that i'm 20 going on 21. Again that really shouldn't matter though because whoever says young pain hurts less than old pain is a clown.I also spent a good portion of my life playing sports and riding dirt-bikes, i guess the point being i consider myself to know my body and pain threshold pretty well. The only difference in age pains is how long it lasts, if two individuals receive the same exact injury but were born 60 years apart, it doesn't mean the elder can talk shit about how his age is making that specific pain any worse. I understand one persons pain threshold is going to be different than another's, but not it's not going to be that dramatic.

This is exactly what was occurring to me... I'm young i'm not supposed to feel like i'm XX years old. Just because it was only a muscle spasm that lasted a few days doesn't make those few days hurt any less than if i were older and out of the typical drug seeker age.

If I were 45 years old and in the same drug use/abuse pattern i'm currently in at age 20 none of this would have ever happened. Obviously I wouldn't have UN-INFORMED parents to argue with, but just because of a persons age they are automatically believed to be in more pain and more honest about it than I am. gay