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Ketamine first timer, any heads up?

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jon6123

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Okay so its a year since I first tried MDMA, after having an amazing first 6 months with the drug I found myself geting quite anxious about it, my comedowns began and they started to freak me out a little bit and now I find that when I take it I cant quite keep myself in the moment; my mind runs away on other thoughts and it becomes irritating, so i have decided to stop taking the drug for a while.

When speaking to an old friend about this he said I should maybe look into something else to keep myself entertained and experimenting, he suggested ketamine. A fair few of my friends I spend time with nowadays do K, often at the end of a night or at a house party where there are places to chill.

My friend says it might suit me for this time in my life as it doesn’t directly affect your mood or have a heavily mood altering comedown, but at the same time my other friend said it might be too scary for me being quite new to drugs, the feeling of not being able to move the same way might be too uncomfortable and the out of body feelings and common feeling of weird fear might be too much for me in his opinion.

I have decided I want to try it and see for myself, knowing the things I know now I think it might be interesting even if I don’t enjoy it.

I just wanted to ask here to make sure ive got my facts right and im not headed for a horrible few hours, so correct me if im wrong:

  • When sniffing it takes 5-10 minutes to begin
  • The main section of the experience lasts roughly an hour and the effects slowly wear off in the hours after that
  • My body movements will feel different, slow and I could find walking weird and harder
  • I will feel outside of my body and disassociated with my emotions and feelings
  • Music will sound different and messed up
  • I might feel a weird sense of fear but it is unlikely to last for the whole hour
  • I could feel sick <---- this is the one I want the most advice on!


I intend to try a small amount (50mg-ish) of it in my room at home with some music or a tv show on with my girlfriend who will stay sober, she doesn’t mind baby sitting me on this type of thing and is quite interested in the drug herself.

And then maybe I will work from there once I’ve had a light taste of it, any tips and pointers please let me know :)

Thanks for reading




a few extra pieces of information:

I used to have small panic attacks at the peak of coming up on mdma, literally 20 seconds outbursts and then id be fine

I used to smoke weed a couple of years ago but nowadays i dont enjoy it too much because i find it hard to get on with what i want to be doing/feeling like i should be doing something im not, and if im chilling i just think and its not relaxing for me, obviously taking K id want to be in an environment where i dont have to do anything and can enjoy experiencing my own thing
 
50 mg's is a bit on the low side at least for me but I have crappy K so wouldn't know. All your points are accurate. About feeling sick, yes it can happen, in that "I've had too much to drink" kind of way when things start to get a bit too heavy. I wouldn't worry about fear unlesss you are sniffing 100 mg's+ in one go. It can happen but it's not really intense or not manageable... best of luck my friend!
 
imo 50mg is on the high side for a beginner. start with 10-20mg bumbs and redose as you please. it hits very fast so you can "stack" doses. stay safe!
never felt sick on K - unless I mix it with alcohol. avoid alcohol when consuming ketamine!
if there is a sense of fear it's probably due to the strange novelty of the effects. ketamine is more anxiolytic than anxiogenic in my experience - unless you take too much too fast and things get confusing, up to the point of (temporary) total mental disorganization...
 
okay cool thanks for the advice, the idea of feeling sick doesnt bother me as much when you compare it to feeling sick from too much drink, had that many times before and thats not a problem.

the idea of tiny bumps is definitely something i was thinking of doing, any idea how to measure 10-20 mg out? im guessing thats like the end of a key or something? like people often do? any advice on that would be helpful

thanks for the replies
 
I'd do 20mg bumps every 10 to 15 minutes if I were you. Start small but work your way up.

Expect to feel a little sick, just keep sipping on water though and stay hydrated and you should be fine.

Try to sit down on a couch and relax during the come up. I find standing and doing activities just increases my nausea.
 
Bump, I am interested in similar information as I've been considering trying K sometime soon as well. Let us know how it goes jon!
Looking forward to the trip report. :)
 
My experience of ketamine is that regardless of tolerance the more you do it the less sensitive to it you become.
My friend experienced the same thing.
I started out just taking two small bumps up each nostril and that would produce a noticeable effect within two minutes, i would have to sit down otherwise i would feel dizzy and sick.
Now i can snort a 20-30mg line in one and just feel a slight buzz, i have no tolerance though and the quality of k is the same.

I intend to snort 100-150mg in one line on the weekend, see where it takes me, on a wonderful journey to hyperspace no doubt :S
 
the first time i did it i took too much on the first line. I had a horrible and scary time and swore i would never touch k again.
anyway a couple of years later i was talking to a new friend and he told me how to enjoy k.....i thought id give it anova chance and did small bumps which was a enjoyable experience.Moral of the story like everyone else said start small.
 
Bumps are great fun and they definitely have a place in my arsenal. Good for clubbing. It's kinda like having a couple beers. Just do a bump and see how you feel. Bump again until you're at where you want to be :) if you start to feel your extremities feel really wierd (like if you're holding a bottle of water but you keep forgetting you're holding it) then you're pretty close to a "sit down and enjoy the ride" dose. IF it's not your thing, remember it only lasts like an hour then you'll come down pretty quick :) Have fun man! Love k.
 
yep, it's all about the bumps. i can get uncomfortable really quick on K, mentally and physically. personally, i like to put on some music in the dark, bump 20mgs in each nostril, and lie back and let it drip. usually i keep the bag next to my bed in case i need to bump-up. i really dont find it social at all. very sedating, strange body load, and psychedelic thoughts. i like to roll up in my blankets for some reason. who fuckin knows. ketamine man...
 
i always enjoyed k, to me it is probably one of the most addictive drugs i have encountered... i guarantee once you dip into that bag you will not stop until it's empty!! (i never could...) i always sniffed key bumps, like literally, just stick a key into the bag and scoop some up with the tip, no idea what kind of weight i was dipping, maybe 20-50 mg. this was a long time ago but if i remember it right i'd do a few bumps and just chill out for a while, maybe redosing every hour or so, you'll feel it when you start to come down and you're ready for more. other posters are right, this isn't really a social drug, my favorite thing to do on k was always just to sit alone, in a dark room, no music, just laying down or looking at some photos on my computer. good, stoning, heady. never made me feel sick or anything like that. just sit back and enjoy it. you'll know you're there when you hear the drone, it sounds just like cicadas... watch out for the hangover the next day, though, you will feel you did like two cases of n2o whippets. don't expect to be good for much. all in all, i'd love to get my hands on some k again someday; enjoy the opportunity!!
 
My advice: k-hole. Once in a lifetime experience that is so unique, incredibly interesting and profound, it's really something that I feel everyone should experience. Nothing can really prepare you for it so I don't think it's the type of drug you have to have experience with before jumping in deep. This is just coming from someone who was extremely scared to k-hole when I did, and now I never have the opportunity and wish I did.
 
I would definitely advise against k-holing for the first time you ever use ketamine.
 
If you're K is really good, just space out your consumption carefully. Being K-rocked can be pretty unsettling if you don't know what to expect, and I would say do NOT Khole. K also creates a "more more more" kind of feeling, try to resist that :)
 
^ *your

And yes, sound advice on not k-holing. I gave a friend of mine some ketamine once upon a time and he took it after coming home clubbing and drinking. He got terribly dizzy and disoriented.
If you don't want to get sick: don't use alcohol, don't move around too much once the effects start, and go slow with your dose. 25 mg bumps should get you where you want to go, within an hour I expect somewhere between 50-75 mg to be enough. You don't have to push it right away, just aim for a demonstration at first and plan going deeper next time. To keep on going until you are maxed out can mean that you only stop when you already feel like it was too much.

Emotionally, ketamine feels pretty blunting and comforting. Just relax. It takes some getting used to and not everyone likes it, but unless you dive in I'd say you are unlikely to scare yourself. Assume it takes a little more than 5-10 minutes for effects to manifest fully even if you can feel the first signs sooner.
 
Your dead on with your points on k. I really don't dose out my bumps at all. I usually just get around 4-5 lines (if its 5 lines they are probably considered a little small for me... but then again, I am a big guy). For your first time, since it does not seem that you are too experienced with drugs, u may want to scale it out. Look at erowid for doses and go from there. That site is the shit for figuring anything out about practically any drug.

Now when you get more experienced and do larger lines it can be extremely intense. I really enjoy bumping a v (a v where i am from is 400mg) at once, go into a pitch black room, and put my fucking awesome headphones on and listen to some techno. But that's something you can just look forward to for now, it is defiantly not something to do your first 10-15 times trying it.

As for the sickness, i have never encountered any sickness. I get a little teary eyed from a big bump, but never any sickness. With that said, one of my dealers pukes every time he has a 150mg bump... but hes just weird like that.


Anyways... with K i would suggest taking small, 1.5 inch sized lines and enjoy :)
 
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