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ketamine - first time/~80mg - so that's it?

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i am in my living room, alone. i weighed out 100mg of ketamine powder that i have prepared from liquid ketamine which i obtained from an online source*. i split it up into 10 bumps and put the mirror on a small table next to my bed. i have also prepared a bucket in case i have to throw up, something to write and a bottle of water. the only thing i ate a few hours before was a few slices of pineapple.

i'm a little anxious, my palms are a bit sweaty. i look at my alarm clock..

20:14: in insufflate 5mg into each nostril - it doesn't burn much. i get back into the living room to put on some music and talk to people on irc. about five minutes later i can feel 'something' - my heart rate has gone up and it's a bit pounding, but i think it's just anticipation. i can also feel something else being different, but i don't quite know what it is. probably just a placebo effect. very light nausea is coming up, but i can easily ignore it.

20:39: i decide to add 10mg (5mg/nostril) and get back to the computer. i feel like there is cotton in my head.. not comfortable, not uncomfortable.. i can taste the ketamine in the back of my throat, the effects described before increase a little.

21:00: i snort 10mg and get back to the computer. i move and walk slowly, and it feels strange. the nausea has increased a bit and i am waiting for some more effects. moving my head feels weird, and i get quite talkative on irc. it's probably just my desire for distraction.

21:17: i'm not feeling anything of what i expected to happen yet, so i add 10mg. sometimes i lie down because i'm feeling heavy.. i close my eyes but all i see is black.

21:38: i add 10mg. shortly after i think something is happening, i get up from my chair and lie down on the sofa. i even close my eyes, but nothing happens. it's like i was about to cross the threshold of something, but it didn't quite work. i get back to irc and talk to people.. i make lots of typos, but i don't care.

22:06: apart from feeling nauseous in a 'good' way and knowing that something is 'different', i don't feel much. i can walk without any major problems, i even go to the bathroom. when i look in the mirror everything seems to be normal. i'm annoyed and add 20mg this time. when i type on irc, my fingers seem to feel very light, but so do the keys i type on, which i consider to be strange.

22:34: things are quite weird now, but even weed has given me wilder thoughts. i add 10mg. the noise from my pc seems to be incredibly loud now, but that only lasts for a minute or two. i have trouble moving my eyes, i feel like a curtain is being pulled up around me, but this happens very slowly. i think that i will be where i want when it's closed, but the curtain movement seems to have stalled. my lips feel numb like they do from coke, some parts of my body also feel 'chemically' numb when i touch them. i also think i can 'taste' an anaesthetic somewhere in my body (this is difficult to describe) - i can still walk, but i know that i would probably hit the floor if i wanted to run. when i look on the floor, i think my legs are very short, but i am higher above the ground as usual. again, this is difficult to describe. the numbness in my lips has decreased, and i can feel the taste of numbness on my tongue.

i feel like a lot of time has passed, though, but when i look at the clock i am amazed - i thought it was ~4:00 already. i talk to skydancer (which i have been doing since about 21:45)

i clap my hands (i don't know why) and it sounds different, it sounds really cool. i pick some other ways to slap my hands together in order to make different sounds. i think everything feels like goo, and i try to dive into that thought, but it doesn't quite work. i am disappointed, but quite mindfucked. when i close my eyes, nothing happens. i make weird hissing sounds with my mouth because they sound cool.

23:00: most of the effects have worn off, and i decide to drink a beer and smoke a cigarette. it upsets my stomach a bit, but it's no problem. i feel pretty much normal, although the bottle feels 'huge' in my hand when i take it from the fridge. the beer tastes good and refreshing.

00:00: skydancer asks me if i am sober, which i affirm. i'm quite disappointed - i didn't expect to k-hole, but some visuals or somewhat overwhelming effects would have been nice. i decide to drink another beer.

00:15: he decides to go to bed, which i consider to be a good idea. i decide to finish my beer and go to bed.. i go to the bathroom to rinse my nostrils with tap water. i notice a slight headache, but it's nothing too major. in my bedroom, i switch on the tv and watch CSI miami and a call-in talkshow afterwards, which ends at 2:00 - i don't remember hearing the outro music, so i assume i was asleep at around 2:00.

08:15: my alarm clock wakes me up - i don't have more trouble getting out of bed than usual. the headache is worse than when i went to bed, but it's not even enough for me to take an aspirin. when i blow my nose, my left nostril starts to bleed, but it stops a few minutes later after i plugged some tissue into it.


it was a somewhat disappointing experience.. i'm 150lbs so i highly doubt the dose was wrong - 80mg insufflated for a first-timer should be more than enough. maybe i spaced the doses too far apart? maybe the ketamine was crap? who knows.. i'm definitely going to try it again in a month or so. i had big expectations, but to sum it up, i felt like i drank two sixpacks of beer with strange chemicals in it.

any thoughts?

thanks for reading

*can't share, sorry guys :\
 
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I've snorted up to 200mg of Ketamine, and was very dissapointed.

First time IM 60mg, k-holed and finally realised what it was all about.
 
80 mg won't put you in a k-hole, not even close.
The first time I did it I snorted 150 mg and it wasn't intense at all.
I have to get at least 250 mg up those nostrils to break into some K holage...
Your effects sounded about correct for 80 mg.
 
That's interesting actually, I didn't really get anything from ketamine the first time I tried it either, tried the same amount again later, only I was sketchy from having MDMA the night before, and that amount worked nicely.

*shrugs*

I wouldn't give up on it just yet. I did like your report though, no fear of it being boring :)
 
80 mg won't put you in a k-hole, not even close.

i was well aware of that :)
but still - according to erowid, 80mg snorted is a 'strong' dose.. i could already feel 'something' 5 minutes after insufflating 10mg, but apart from being somewhat smashed and feeling numb, i failed to see any of the effects that made K interesting for me (except for the walking/looking down part)

still though, i don't really see why anyone would want to experience anything other than a K-hole, then, meaning that i don't see how someone can get that much joy out of the effects a 'strong' dose provides.

i would have expected some visuals at least, maybe just closed-eye ones.

i'm just trying to say that there must be something good between 0mg ketamine and enough ketamine to land in a K-hole.. what i experienced was interesting, but i don't think anyone would try K if he had only read my report.
 
I think you spaced it out way too much. 80mg is a decent dose if you have some good gear but why did you space it out so much? I know it's not in the interest of harm reduction but try doing 50 at once. :)
 
If Erowid says 80 mg is a strong dose, then that's one thing I disagree with that website on.
I mean, I don't know you all that well personally, but from being on BL for quite a while and reading your posts, I know for a fact you could handle 200+ mg insufflated with ease, infinity.
If you have some more, give it another go. 80 mg is just a teaser.
(also, i think taking 50 mg lines every 3-4 mins is the best way to go, but thats just a personal opinion)
 
80mg is a decent dose if you have some good gear but why did you space it out so much? I know it's not in the interest of harm reduction but try doing 50 at once.

well i guess you answered it by yourself :) i approach new drugs carefully.. although you can read all you want about it, you have to experience it for yourself - that's something we all know.. what i didn't know was how i would react, so i started off very low. i also think it was the reason for 'poor' effects.

If you have some more, give it another go. 80 mg is just a teaser.

yeah i have enough left and i'll try it again in march :)
 
hmmm..

even 80 mg. IM will barely put me there...and the only time i've gotten anywhere interesting via nasal administration was in combo with lsd...i never really get 'visuals' (in the traditional sense) from ketamine at anything other than a breakthrough IM dose...and then i am nothing short of fully immersed in another reality..a far cry from 'visuals' per se...more like true 'hallucinations' i suppose...'very' realistic hallucinationz...since you don't like needles i would suggest drinking it instead..takes me further than nasal, but just short of an IM experience...interesting to say the least...
 
^ Drinking? Can you elaborate further on this?

What method you use, how much of the material you have to drink for an effect?

Remember, everyones sources of ketamine will be different, so subsequently, dosages may be different too....your mileage may vary...
 
I've found insulflation to be fine w/ K. Just do it all at once. It took me a while to finally "get it" with k. I started just bumping small lines to get that detached feeling, but its a total waste if you don't K-hole. Also get some ear plugs and a blindfold, and lay down in a dark room. Sensory deprevation is key in my opinion.
 
yep, ear plugs also came to my mind.. i decided not to do it and leave the lights on in the other room, though, because i figured i might get scared or something. i'm not afraid in the dark, but who knows how i feel about that when under the influence of K.

i think i'll stick to insufflating, as oral ingestion seems to require much higher doses (according to erowid)

i'm not cheap, but ketamine isn't either (at least from my source), so i'll stick to snorting i assume. i know IM is the way to go, but i really don't like the idea of injecting stuff into my muscle tissue.

although the quantities were small (in my gallery, you can see that 1 gram isn't really that much. i have seen some horribly long lines of K in the gallery - that stuff must have been cut to hell and back), my nose was quite stuffed up after a few very small lines. with coke, rinsing is no problem, but i don't see myself going to the bathroom when i am close to the K-hole...
 
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Good to hear you will be trying a higher dose soon. Do another trip report and this time after say 5 minutes of insufflating you don't think you are high enough do another line just as big until you get there. Trust me you eventually will. :) GL
 
Well written report!

As said, everyone is different. I feel Ketamine would be one of those drugs I myself would need lots of to get desired effects, like DXM. But you did right to start low and by spacing it out.
 
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