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Ketamine and salvia?!

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I haven't ever heard of this. How would it be if I did a few rails of k then took a faaat bong chop of 500x salvia? Like if I already had room spins from the ketamine. Would it enhance the salvia at all?
 
I think all anyone can tell you is that it will be insanely intense and the rest of your ketamine trip will probably change somehow after you come down from the salvia.
 
500x salvia?!? That seems fuckin ridiculous to me... Like take even just the smallest toke and you should black out for 10-15 minutes. I cant imagine it being worth it at all but even 20 or 30x salvia is over the line for me... anyways salvia and ket are both dissociatives so Im sure it would be an interesting space to be in if you like dissociatives (i dont)... Also as the poster above me mentioned people tend to feel really weird and disociated after a huge salvia trip, and combining that with ket also seems like a bad idea to me, but once again I barely like ketamine and hate salvia so who knows. I would seriously recommend at least taking a reasonable salvia dose if you want to combine them
 
I've heard anecdotal reports taht it's less unpleasant than you'd think - the ketamine apparently greatly reduces salvia's uncomfortable bodyload.
 
^It works that way with DXM for me. I think ketamine would work similarly. A moderate dose of either should be sufficient to mitigate the body load, you don't need to be borderline anesthetized or anything.
 
I don't think this would be a positive trip and with the hour long or so hole you'll be trying to fall into I think it's a bad idea. If you fall into a negative k-hole your going to be ripped apart mentally.
 
I think it would be a good combo. I'd imagine in a user who enjoys traditional dissociatives (NMDA-antagonists) would find the ketamine to be very anxiolytic, along with helping prevent you from moving around during the salvia experience.
 
I did 60x on the k. It made me feel like my heart was vibrating, but that my body was insignificant and that death was no big deal. I'm atheist, but it FELT like my consciousness transcended my body in the sense that I'll persist after my body dies. The vibration shattered me into a realm of pure contrast of black and white. I always see infinite layers on salvia, like reality being in a book. And that my face was that book. But this time, not only did the layers have layers have layers, but they were aware and growing exponentially in a steep curve. I felt that my brain just had a fork virus installed (a file that says, "make more of me"). Ket always reinvigorates my passion for math and family. But that time, the only lesson I learned was that reality is probably made up of infinitesimally small 0 dimensional points, and that we are MUCH bigger than these points, and that the 4th dimension probably exists as well, and that it is also MUCH bigger than us though we're a part of it. Everything the salvia did echoed and the echoes had echoes had echoes and it rang into a vibration that was pushing me away from myself.

Salvia basically just made the ket less therapeutic. If ket lets me access the conscious grid, and salvia lets me travel between layers, then the combo showed me the grid makes up the layers that make up the grid in an infinite ☯️
 
I find the salvia straight up quite therapeutic, but prob would enjoy it with a snort of ket too.
I also get that layers of layers of layers thing, which seems to me to be frame stacking of experience when the previous moment lingers extensively before fading away and you are in a frame stack of moments which is time which becomes space.

afterwards it feels like I have been reconstituted after passing through a meat grinder, and I am still flaky and particulate.
 
I'm one of the weird ones that genuinely prefers salvia to "psychedelic" doses of ketamine. My favorite was sublingual salvia back when I grew the plants. The similarities with ketamine are more apparent when the experience is slowed way down.
 
Pfafffed said:
I'm one of the weird ones that genuinely prefers salvia to "psychedelic" doses of ketamine. My favorite was sublingual salvia back when I grew the plants. The similarities with ketamine are more apparent when the experience is slowed way down.
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We're you using dry leaf for that or did it have to be fresh?
 
K and Sally D? It is as Danuel Siebert used to say - "An extraordinary potion of enchantment"
 
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