So, I made a post a little while back that mentioned me realizing I was in withdrawals from phenibut. I wasn't using much of it daily (not recreationally, just for nootropic/anxiolytic effects), but it was enough for me to get some not-great insomnia. I didn't even realize that's what was causing the insomnia for a while.
Since then, I've made sure to keep track of how much I have, and have tapered a good bit down. It's not an addiction, really, I don't feel compelled to use it or anything, I just get withdrawals if I don't have it that day or the day before. My average daily dose is somewhere around 400-500 mg. The withdrawals aren't bad, it's really only insomnia, but insomnia messes with me a lot and exacerbates some other mental problems sometimes.
Anyway, to the point of this thread; I finally got another pound of kava (arrived on Tuesday, I think). At this point I'm somewhat working through the reverse tolerance, since I haven't had it in a while. My last ~400 mg dose of phenibut was Tuesday morning. So far, I haven't really had much trouble with insomnia. I've been having about a tablespoon of kava (mixed with soy lecithin and warm water) in the evenings, somewhere between 6:00-8:00, on a relatively empty stomach. (Again, the small dose is just for getting past reverse tolerance.) Part of the reason I got the kava was to be able to get past the phenibut withdrawals/insomnia, and it seems like it's working decently well!
I thought I'd share that with you all, as well as ask if any of you know if this is actually an effective route to take with it. Kava upregulates GABA-A receptors (I think), so could that actually help fix the withdrawals, not just help ease me through them?
Once I've gotten past the withdrawals, I'm definitely going to make sure I don't get into taking phenibut daily again.
It was actually kind of accidental that I started doing so in the first place.
Since then, I've made sure to keep track of how much I have, and have tapered a good bit down. It's not an addiction, really, I don't feel compelled to use it or anything, I just get withdrawals if I don't have it that day or the day before. My average daily dose is somewhere around 400-500 mg. The withdrawals aren't bad, it's really only insomnia, but insomnia messes with me a lot and exacerbates some other mental problems sometimes.
Anyway, to the point of this thread; I finally got another pound of kava (arrived on Tuesday, I think). At this point I'm somewhat working through the reverse tolerance, since I haven't had it in a while. My last ~400 mg dose of phenibut was Tuesday morning. So far, I haven't really had much trouble with insomnia. I've been having about a tablespoon of kava (mixed with soy lecithin and warm water) in the evenings, somewhere between 6:00-8:00, on a relatively empty stomach. (Again, the small dose is just for getting past reverse tolerance.) Part of the reason I got the kava was to be able to get past the phenibut withdrawals/insomnia, and it seems like it's working decently well!
I thought I'd share that with you all, as well as ask if any of you know if this is actually an effective route to take with it. Kava upregulates GABA-A receptors (I think), so could that actually help fix the withdrawals, not just help ease me through them?
Once I've gotten past the withdrawals, I'm definitely going to make sure I don't get into taking phenibut daily again.
