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IV'ing in front of friends who don't

siouxsiedolly

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a few friends swore they didn't give a shit that we were in their apartment, but i have this dreaded feeling that they probably never want to talk to us again, or are talking shit and have probably changed their opinion of us.

i mean, what am i supposed to do here? should i just trust what they said even though it seems that they were lieing ? they're totally anti-needles and here i was, blatantly using like it wouldn't be offensive to them.
 
Learn from your mistakes. I don't IV, but over the past year I have slowly been learning not to snort anything in front of people who don't, not to discuss "hard" drugs in front of drunks and potheads, etc. Wait and see how they act toward you the next few times you see them, and if it has changed, call them out on it.
 
It would be surprising if their opinion of you didn't change. Needles are always associated with hard, "killer" drugs such as Heroin, and in turn they're associated with HIV, addiction, death, and whatever the media and anti-drug propaganda would have us believe.

I'd at least try and use a different room next time, and I wouldn't explain that I was going to shoot up either. Ordinary people don't need to see that sort of thing. They don't seem able to handle it. It's weird and unusual, even if they know you do it.

There's an unshakeable stigma that comes with intravenous drug use. It's one that effects even other drug users. Some are curious and fascinated, while some will be disgusted and offended.
 
Ive done this a few times as well and then I learned never to do it again.
 
Needles have a stigma of their own even when not related to illegal drugs - how many people do you know that are mortally afraid of having blood tests or giving blood because of fear of the needle! How many seasame street episodes try to deal with this issue? ;)

I think that even were it insulin you were injecting people in general are squeamish and just don't like needles or seeing them in peoples arms or anythgn that has the capacity to draw blood.

Now add this general fear of needles to the 'evils' that are harder drugs - and people do have stigmas about harder drugs - most recreational drug users do, including myself and its like a multiplyer affect.

There was a thread in either Aus Social or Aus Drug Discussion a while ago talkign about users IVing and how it was actually more common than many people thought it's just many users tended to hide the fact because of the social stigma. Might be worht digging up?

If i was shooting up I'd try to be discrete about it as i know that needles and harder drugs make non IVers uncomfortable in general. fearhs, Kerrigan, n4kin and DexterMeth have pretty much summed it up from a users point of view.
 
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I have shot up in front of people who don't, but I usually never would. the people I did it in front of were more fascinated than malicious.
 
I'll usually take a trip to the bathroom to do it, but if I know they IV too, or if they're hard drug users that I've known long enough to know they really don't care then I might do it in a group setting. I wouldn't just asked someone if they cared or not though. No matter what the answer, if I didn't truely know then I'd feel a little weird about it.
 
As mentioned by many above the key issue here is that there is the stigma that IV use of any kind is bad. I am an IV user and have been for about 7 years. If I'm in a friends house who I feel wouldn't be comfortable with me shooting up I'll use a toliet and they'll be none the wiser. Most rational people won't let a friendship disappear due to their friends IV'ing drugs, even if they don't or are against it. If someone is so anti- IV and will cease to be friends I don't think their friendship is that necessary.
 
i had a buddy that would purposely IV in front of other people..my take on it is he WANTED to be known dude who was doing hardcorjunkie druhe wanted to be talked about in terms of him being a junkie etc etc...fugged up if ya ask me..

i would NEVER iv anything in front of another non drug user...i always would use the bathroom..i think its rude and lacking class to slam it in front of someone who has no undersanding of it..i mean, i just put myself in their shoes, when i wasnt into drugs and i saw someone shooting in front of me id be disgusted and would want them out of my sight..
 
It's like any other activity that makes others feel uncomfortable. If people are made uncomfortable by it, don't do it in front of them.

I wouldn't sit there with my dick out or something like that because it makes people feel uncomfortable. Same thing here. If you're doing it specifically to shit people then well, you're a dick.
 
Kandy K said:
I purposely do this in front of people I don't like.

LOL!, Hilarious.

I've snorted in front of a few people who have only done weed, and yes, they've given me a bit of a cold shoulder since then.
 
If they are my good friends I dont if they really really have some moral or other objection to it. But all this only applies if they are at my house; if I am at theirs I won't because that's fucking disrespect when you're at their fucking house. If they are my friends I will always ask too, for anything, not just IV'ing. Just like how you'd ask if its cool if you smoked a cigarette or a bowl if youre at someones house, and if they say no you either go outside or don't do it.

There was that one time though I was meeting freshmen boys in the dorms for the first time, and one of them invited me in his room, and out of fucking nowhere I pulled out a butane torch, a hotrail stem, and started scraping the shit out of it. They were too shocked to even say anything, their faces seriously were like 8(
 
if it was my house and someone asked me I'd probably ask them to go in another room or something. I'm real chill with just about anything, but I can't stand watching people IV shit or even use needles whether it's on tv, pictures etc. I seriously doubt I could watch that shit in person and it would make me pretty uncomfortable, so if it was my house go somewhere else.

it doesn't really have anything to do with heroin stigma or needle stigma or anything, I just can't look at that shit it makes me all a;lksjdf;lkajsdf; lkasdf.

share that heroin though for sure ;)
 
DexterMeth said:
If i am at anyone else's place, i'll spike myself in the bathroom. I don't like other people knowing how much i use.

I dont like people watching- the bathrooms the place to go for sure. Its plain bad manners to IV in front of people you know dont like it.
 
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