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Misc IV ketamine

crOOk

crOOk

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This isn't enough info for a trip report, but since info on IV K is pretty sparse, I thought I'd create a thread.

I use ketamine irregularly, definitely less than 10 times in the past 2 years. I have no tolerance, but am very experienced with dissociatives. Weight is 80kg.

I've been getting these vials with 100mg ketamine, s isomer. They never really were good for holing when I IM'ed them. All I am after is total dissociation, sub-breakthrough dosages of ketamine never were my thing. I used to try to boost the experience with other substances because 100mg S-Ket IM is right below my "hole dose".

I got ahold of another of those vials the other day and decided to mainline (iv) this one. Turns out the 100mg go quite a long way when they're administered this way, I definitely holed on it. Shit comes on very fast. I definitely dissociated before I pulled the needle from my vein. For an experienced ketamine user handling the injection shouldn't pose any problem, but I can see why people out there warn others not to IV ketamine.

If all I have is a vial of 100mg s isomer, I'm most definitely never gonna go IM with that again, but will mainline instead simply because it is so much more efficient dosage wise. If there's enough K though, I'd still prefer IM just because it allows me to get some stuff done between injection and onset of the drug, e.g. preparing my "tank" for take-off.

EDIT: 80 minutes have passed since I pushed the plunger and while I'm not quite back to baseline, I suffer only very slight double vision with both eyes open now. It would have taken considerably longer to get to this point had I IM'ed the stuff instead. For those who dislike the double vision and other aspects of the ketamine comedown, this is a pretty nice aspect of IV use.
 
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When injecting K IV usually go for 80-100mgs.

Like you say it can sometimes prove difficult to handle needles when you're tripping hard.

I usually get stuck trying to put the lid back on the pin.
Best bet, buy some cocaine powder to mix with the K.

Teh C+K synergy is awesome.
 
Cornishman said:
I usually get stuck trying to put the lid back on the pin.
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I skipped that step and just put it behind my computer monitor, closed and discarded it later. Would've probably hurt myself trying to close it there and then.
 
I IVed a tiny bit of MXE before and as soon as I capped the pin I lost sense of who I was and where I was. I just knew I'd done something to fuck myself up. Not pleasant. But then again I would only enjoy k if I was at a festival wrecked and staggering around not knowing what face to be pulling. Doing a little k helps me stagger with purpose.
 
I've been thinking about using the last 200mg ketamine (racemic) I have IV. If I did a 100mg shot in one of the veins on my right foot, I should have a minute to toss the syringe aside and lay down in bed before the effects hit me, right?
 
I really miss K. it has been about 4 years and I would do anything to enter that serene land of bliss. IV is infinitely more intense than anyother
 
Toz said:
I've been thinking about using the last 200mg ketamine (racemic) I have IV. If I did a 100mg shot in one of the veins on my right foot, I should have a minute to toss the syringe aside and lay down in bed before the effects hit me, right?
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Well the effects will hit you before you've even pulled out the needle unless you inject very quickly. Since you are in the middle of the task though and focussing on it, you should still be able to pull out and lay the syringe aside, at least I was.

I'd imagine it depends a whole lot on how much experience with ketamine you have. I remember pissing on the floor despite having a "piss bucket" standing next to my bed the very first time. These days I manage to walk down to the restroom without even holding onto the walls on a comparable level of intoxication, I even managed to get my dmt from the stash and smoke a bowl 30min after administering one of said vials IM.

Either way there definitely is risk of self injury as Psychedelic Jay and Tryptamite have pointed out.

I also think 100mg of the s isomer might've been a bit too much. I don't remember a thing before I picked up the phone about 30-45min post injection. Maybe something upwards of 160mg racemic would do the trick if you weigh about 80kg like me and have no tolerance. Cornishman sounds like he is pretty used to IV'ing K and suggests 80-100mg, I'll just assume he is talking about s isomer.

God I wish I had some racemic K, all I see is the fucking nogood s isomer. Never gets me where I want to be.
 
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I have extensively used ketamine IV since I get it in powder/crystal form and not from vials,and I don't feel safe IMing anything that isn't pharm grade.

My tolerance got so high that I could not snort enough to get into a hole, so I began IVing it. You barely have time to get the cap on the needle before you go into a K hole. Without a large tolerance you can hole out on 30-60mg IV, much less than any other ROA.

Do not IV K standing up, sit down in a chair that you won't fall out of or lay in a bed. It's best to have someone there with you to do things like rinse out your needle, cap it, and help you get into a laying down position if you hole out before you can do these things.

The duration is much shorter than any other ROA for K, I'd say the effects last about 30-40 minutes total, and the hole is only maybe 15-20 minutes.

I have IV'd K (as far as I know only racemic) probably around 100 times I would estimate, so if anyone has any questions on this ROA for ketamine feel free to ask.
 
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I do small doses to lighten a fit of depression. (25mg)

I do large doses to go swimming. (100mg) That is my full immersion dosage. I can’t even see, move, hear, speak, comprehend... Only think...

It’s funny because, I knew in my mind to remove the needle, but my body just shut off into oblivion... I’m like damn, I know it’s still there, but I can’t physically grasp the concept of reaching for it.
 
sherminator2 said:
do not iv k standing up
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Why not?!^^

.:Holy::Toast:. said:
Buuuut the s isomer ketamine I've had compared to racemic is notoriously stronger and more psychedelc
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About twice as strong, but more psychedelic? It is my understanding the only reason why the s isomer is being separated from racemic ketamine at all is because it is considerably less psychedelic and therefore better suited for use in humans... Vet k is still racemic because it's cheaper to produce and who gives a damn if your dog is tripping balls. The latter feels a lot more colorful to me.
 
In general, the pharmacological properties of (S)-ketamine are comparable to the racemic compound. On the different sites of action, qualitatively comparable effects were found, but significant quantitative differences also became obvious. When compared with (R)-ketamine and the racemic mixture, the analgesic and anesthetic potency of (S)-ketamine is threefold or twofold higher. Thus, a 50% reduction of dosage is possible to achieve comparable clinical results. Because of the faster elimination of (S)-ketamine, better control of anesthesia will be provided. In summary, the pharmacokinetic improvements of (S)-ketamine are characterized by a reduced drug load, along with more rapid recovery.
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9451486

the fewer side effects and better control of anesthesia is probably why the S-isomer is preferred in first world medicine. i'm sure cost and availability leads to people using the racemate all the time, though. the fact that even plain R-ketamine is an anesthetic means that there's no need to really remove it.
 
look, there's no way to go but "the double pumper" as i affectionately call it. Get two syringes, fill each w100mg k, if powdered i do 200mg in 1ml syringe. Muscle one, them, while the muscle shot is coming on, iv the next. It takes a bit of practice but is the only way i've found to guaranteed hole 100% of the time. :) cheers
 
To crOOk:
Why not?!^^
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IV ketamine hits you so fast that if you do it standing up you likely will not have time to sit or lay down.

The last time I IVd ketamine standing up my girlfriend was awakened by a crashing sound. I had collapsed onto my desk with the uncapped needle in my hand and smashed the open drawer on my desk off its rails. The metal rails were bent into a 90 degree angle and the drawer was completely broken.

I had huge gashes on my ass that looked like I'd been clawed by a tiger, from falling onto the edge of the drawer. I was in a K-hole and totally unresponsive, which scared the shit out of my girlfriend needless to say. I was lucky, I could have easily hit my head on something, or been much more seriously injured in some way.

As it was I had some nasty cuts and lots of bruises. It hurt to sit down for around two weeks due to the cuts and bruises on my ass. I was lucky my girlfriend was there to drag my barely conscious body away from the broken drawer and bent metal from the desk. If I had been alone it could have been a much worse situation.

I have had other bad experiences IVing ketamine standing up (shit like having my pants fall down in front of a group of friends since I'd used my belt to tie off for the shot) but basically IVing ketamine standing up is asking to get injured. I highly recommend that anyone who tries this ROA for ketamine does so sitting or laying down in a safe position where you aren't going to collapse on something dangerous. Even if there isn't anything around you that would injure you, you could fall onto the needle and hurt yourself that way.

Don't shoot K standing up. It's a very bad idea.
 
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Sherminator2 said:
IV ketamine hits you so fast that if you do it standing up you likely will not have time to sit or lay down.
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The carets were supposed to mark my sentence as ironic. I just couldn't imagine anyone would iv k while standing up lol. I personally couldn't imagine IV'ing anything while standing up.

Now I guess I'll have to rephrase: "WHY would you do that, dude?!" (More than once even)


Would be absolutely awesome if people could edit their posts to add whether they are referring to racemic ketamine or the s isomer. All that dosage info are not worth crap without that info... :/ I know I know, not gonna happen.
 
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