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Kratom IV 7oh

ChuckBeeblebrox

ChuckBeeblebrox

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I cant be the only person who is curious if 7oh can be made to inject. Iv shot almost every mainstream drug there is andvi cant help but wonder. Yes i knowbits a Terrible idea. But so is adding lemon juice to crack and shooting it lol. Which is the only way i can imagine might work.
Please dont beat me with the "thats stupid" type answers. Just a question 1000s probably want to know but cant forbthe lifebof me find an answer. Thanks in advance. First post but long time lover of bluelight.
 
Shooting crack (which should ideally be converted to salt form with vinegar or pure citric acid over lemon juice) is far less damaging because it’s not filled with insoluble plant matter the body is unable to metabolise. Pure chemicals are much safer to inject than plant extracts containing who knows how many different actives and inactives. This is why you never hear about people injecting mushrooms or peyote or hash oil. You’d need to have incredibly pure 99% 7oh to inject it safely. Even then, I’m not sure if there would be a good reason to inject it as I believe it’s already very bioavailable orally, unlike some other opioids like heroin or hydromorphone.
 
ChuckBeeblebrox said:
I cant be the only person who is curious if 7oh can be made to inject. Iv shot almost every mainstream drug there is andvi cant help but wonder. Yes i knowbits a Terrible idea. But so is adding lemon juice to crack and shooting it lol. Which is the only way i can imagine might work.
Please dont beat me with the "thats stupid" type answers. Just a question 1000s probably want to know but cant forbthe lifebof me find an answer. Thanks in advance. First post but long time lover of bluelight.
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The main problem I see is that 7oh to my knowledge is not even water soluble so I don't see a reasonable way to shoot it. No idea if its soluble in PG or the like but personally I wouldn't bother. Not to mention the issue with potentially injecting plant matter.
 
sHR00m said:
The main problem I see is that 7oh to my knowledge is not even water soluble so I don't see a reasonable way to shoot it. No idea if its soluble in PG or the like but personally I wouldn't bother. Not to mention the issue with potentially injecting plant matter.
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Oof, yeah, if it’s not even water soluble that’s no fun.
 
Having 7-OH crystals crash out in your veins sounds pretty brutal, I really hope nobody tries to shoot this shit. Given that your average person can only access tabs and not powder too, I suspect there will inevitably be some desparate fool who slams a water filtered pill the way you'd do an old school OC 80, and the pill binders they inject will do at best nothing, at worst severe if not fatal damage.

What a way to pull bad optics towards 7-OH like losing a limb to a smokeshop tablet and a syringe, god I hope nobody does this.
 
fairnymph said:
This is why you never hear about people injecting mushrooms or peyote or hash oil.
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i know someone that cooked up keef and shot it. it didnt do anything. but he did it
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this person also shot whiskey, xanax, and suboxone strip as well
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Mello Kitty, 2012-10-09, https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16999149#16999149


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During the development of the mouse catalepsy test in this laboratory we had been impressed by the speed of onset of catalepsy following intravenous administration of either crude cannabis or Δ1-THC.
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Gill, E. W., & Jones, G. 1972. Brain levels of 1 -tetrahydrocannabinol and its metabolites in mice--correlation with behaviour, and the effect of the metabolic inhibitors SKF 525A and piperonyl butoxide. Biochemical pharmacology, 21(16), 2237–2248. DOI: 10.1016/0006-2952(72)90039-1


Intravenous administration of marihuana. Gary, N. E., & Keylon, V. 1970. JAMA, 211(3), 501–501.

Effect of intravenous injection of marihuana. King, A. B., & Cowen, D. L. 1969. JAMA, 210(4), 724–725.

Adverse effects of intravenous cannabis tea. Mims, R. B., & Lee, J. H. 1977. J Natl Med Assoc, 69(7), 491–495.

The toxicity of intravenously used marihuana. Payne, R. J., & Brand, S. N. 1975. JAMA, 233(4), 351–354.

Toxicity with intravenous injection of crude marijuana extract. Vaziri, N. D., Thomas, R., Sterling, M., Seiff, K., Pahl, M. V., Davila, J., & Wilson, A. 1981. Clin Toxicol, 18(3), 353–366. DOI 10.3109/15563658108990042

Collapse after intravenous injection of hashish. Henderson, A. H., & Pugsley, D. J. 1968. Br Med J, 3(5612), 229–230. DOI 10.1136/bmj.3.5612.229

Intravenously injected marihuana syndrome. Farber, S. J., & Huertas, V. E. 1976. Arch Intern Med, 136(3), 337–339.

Intravenous marijuana syndrome. Brandenburg, D., & Wernick, R. 1986. The Western Journal of Medicine, 145(1), 94–96.


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I was once brave/dumb/foolhardy enough to slam 50 mg of Marinol (delta-9-THC) (This was back when I still played with needles.) I had also been slamming Dilaudid as well. That was the highest I've been in my life except for maybe the first time I smoked (I was able to enjoy that high without passing out.) It came on in about 10 min it seemed like, I think I may have made it an hour before passing out. I wouldn't recommend it cause it's suspended in sesame oil (It would have been fun to get a lab test of my cholesterol afterwards.) I think the experiment was kind of a waste cause all I can remember is loading up the syringe (just squirted five 10 mg pills into the back of the syringe) and being gone for a short while.

As far as natural cannabinoids I bet you could do the same thing after a simple extract to get honey oil, which I'm sure is just as bad for you. But hey, if we really gave a shit about that I don't think any of us would want to try such crazy things.
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tryptafiend, 2009-08-28, https://www.bluelight.org/community/threads/injecting-marijuana.256129/post-7473706
 
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red22 said:
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i know someone that cooked up keef and shot it. it didnt do anything. but he did it
facepalm.gif


this person also shot whiskey, xanax, and suboxone strip as well
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Mello Kitty, 2012-10-09, https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16999149#16999149


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During the development of the mouse catalepsy test in this laboratory we had been impressed by the speed of onset of catalepsy following intravenous administration of either crude cannabis or Δ1-THC.
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Gill, E. W., & Jones, G. 1972. Brain levels of 1 -tetrahydrocannabinol and its metabolites in mice--correlation with behaviour, and the effect of the metabolic inhibitors SKF 525A and piperonyl butoxide. Biochemical pharmacology, 21(16), 2237–2248. DOI: 10.1016/0006-2952(72)90039-1


Intravenous administration of marihuana. Gary, N. E., & Keylon, V. 1970. JAMA, 211(3), 501–501.

Effect of intravenous injection of marihuana. King, A. B., & Cowen, D. L. 1969. JAMA, 210(4), 724–725.

Adverse effects of intravenous cannabis tea. Mims, R. B., & Lee, J. H. 1977. J Natl Med Assoc, 69(7), 491–495.

The toxicity of intravenously used marihuana. Payne, R. J., & Brand, S. N. 1975. JAMA, 233(4), 351–354.

Toxicity with intravenous injection of crude marijuana extract. Vaziri, N. D., Thomas, R., Sterling, M., Seiff, K., Pahl, M. V., Davila, J., & Wilson, A. 1981. Clin Toxicol, 18(3), 353–366. DOI 10.3109/15563658108990042

Collapse after intravenous injection of hashish. Henderson, A. H., & Pugsley, D. J. 1968. Br Med J, 3(5612), 229–230. DOI 10.1136/bmj.3.5612.229

Intravenously injected marihuana syndrome. Farber, S. J., & Huertas, V. E. 1976. Arch Intern Med, 136(3), 337–339.

Intravenous marijuana syndrome. Brandenburg, D., & Wernick, R. 1986. The Western Journal of Medicine, 145(1), 94–96.


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I was once brave/dumb/foolhardy enough to slam 50 mg of Marinol (delta-9-THC) (This was back when I still played with needles.) I had also been slamming Dilaudid as well. That was the highest I've been in my life except for maybe the first time I smoked (I was able to enjoy that high without passing out.) It came on in about 10 min it seemed like, I think I may have made it an hour before passing out. I wouldn't recommend it cause it's suspended in sesame oil (It would have been fun to get a lab test of my cholesterol afterwards.) I think the experiment was kind of a waste cause all I can remember is loading up the syringe (just squirted five 10 mg pills into the back of the syringe) and being gone for a short while.

As far as natural cannabinoids I bet you could do the same thing after a simple extract to get honey oil, which I'm sure is just as bad for you. But hey, if we really gave a shit about that I don't think any of us would want to try such crazy things.
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tryptafiend, 2009-08-28, https://www.bluelight.org/community/threads/injecting-marijuana.256129/post-7473706
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Yeah, I’m sure it happens, but there’s a reason people don’t talk about it! Egads. At least Marinol is highly purified.
 
Yea it the 7-Hydroxymitragynine is packaged as a Free Base then it's probably not going to be easily soluble in water. To answer the question in a general way, I'm sure it can be injected, as pretty much everything else can be made into an injectable form. Often, when a drug is in the form of a Salt i.e. Hydrochloride, it is soluble in water, but there is no guarantee. Converting a Free Base to a Salt is not high-level chemistry, though it's more than the vast majority of users are able or willing to do.

More specifically, I would be cautious about trying to inject any products that you've bought meant for oral consumption. You have no idea how scrupulous these people are. Things that are not necessarily so harmful when ingested orally can be majorly bad when injected. I would be very wary of attempting converting head-shop products in injectable form.

Otherwise, I'm sure it can be injected. You'd just have to do the legwork in determining the process. If you are confident in your supplier, than I'm sure it's not difficult to do this. If you end up getting that far, use the basic proportions that we often find to be applicable to a wide range of substances; oral 0.3/33% - intranasal 0.6/66% - injection/inhalation 1/100%. These proportions are a good place to start.
 
Keif' Richards said:
Yea it the 7-Hydroxymitragynine is packaged as a Free Base then it's probably not going to be easily soluble in water. To answer the question in a general way, I'm sure it can be injected, as pretty much everything else can be made into an injectable form. Often, when a drug is in the form of a Salt i.e. Hydrochloride, it is soluble in water, but there is no guarantee. Converting a Free Base to a Salt is not high-level chemistry, though it's more than the vast majority of users are able or willing to do.

More specifically, I would be cautious about trying to inject any products that you've bought meant for oral consumption. You have no idea how scrupulous these people are. Things that are not necessarily so harmful when ingested orally can be majorly bad when injected. I would be very wary of attempting converting head-shop products in injectable form.

Otherwise, I'm sure it can be injected. You'd just have to do the legwork in determining the process. If you are confident in your supplier, than I'm sure it's not difficult to do this. If you end up getting that far, use the basic proportions that we often find to be applicable to a wide range of substances; oral 0.3/33% - intranasal 0.6/66% - injection/inhalation 1/100%. These proportions are a good place to start.
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I have read before that 7-oh-mitragynine does not really form salts. Not sure how true that is but so far I have not seen it being sold as a salt.
 
Esperighanto said:
Having 7-OH crystals crash out in your veins sounds pretty brutal, I really hope nobody tries to shoot this shit. Given that your average person can only access tabs and not powder too, I suspect there will inevitably be some desparate fool who slams a water filtered pill the way you'd do an old school OC 80, and the pill binders they inject will do at best nothing, at worst severe if not fatal damage.

What a way to pull bad optics towards 7-OH like losing a limb to a smokeshop tablet and a syringe, god I hope nobody does this.
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Ever read the saga of the guy who fucked up shooting ambien on reddit, starting from "my arm is hurting after shooting ambien last night" and ending in "so I just left the hospital after getting my arm amputated..."
 
Why would anyone want to shoot this shit. Please. Take it from me. I am a walking vein less ex-junkie with big scar tissue ditches on both arms. It’s just not worth it. As much as we are inclined to shoot these substances, it should be avoided, at all costs. The needle is a tricky game. Sure it gives it to you all at once. Sure it’s as strong as it gets. But please. Respect it. And turn to it only when you have the substances that are readymade to IV❤️
 
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