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The russians are def behind this. HAMAS has hella drones and went to russia mutiple times last year. They are using drones very effectivly destorying israeli bases and tanks.

Stupid though. HAMAS has stirred the pot and these israelis will probably wipe out GAZA once and for all.
 
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I think they've both been assaulting each other for sometime.
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Palestine is a population of teenagers. 70% of palestinians are freaking children throwing rocks and stones, whereas Israeli soldiers are the most cowardly and brutal monsters who use shrapnel ammo against these kids to "defend" themselves against "terrorist" attacks. Everything else is zionist propaganda...
 
Interesting timing

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Hexenstahl said:
Palestine is a population of teenagers. 70% of palestinians are freaking children throwing rocks and stones, whereas Israeli soldiers are the most cowardly and brutal monsters who use shrapnel ammo against these kids to "defend" themselves against "terrorist" attacks. Everything else is zionist propaganda...
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The issue is bigger than the Gaza strip which has been armed by outside forces since the 70's and the Yom kipper war. Israel is surrounded by hostile enemies and Hamas has been running these attacks for a longtime. So no I don't agree at all with your take on the issue as Palestine being a bunch of rock throwing teenagers terrorized by the evil Israel. It is an erroneous oversimplification and seems to be the popular new gen Z, late millennial take on the conflict.
 
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Hexenstahl said:
Palestine is a population of teenagers. 70% of palestinians are freaking children throwing rocks and stones, whereas Israeli soldiers are the most cowardly and brutal monsters who use shrapnel ammo against these kids to "defend" themselves against "terrorist" attacks. Everything else is zionist propaganda...
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It's not teenagers blasting rockets from the tops of hospitals. Israel don't strap bombs to kids. Hamas do though.
 
somnilicious said:
The issue is bigger than the Gaza strip which has been armed by outside forces since the 70's and the Yom kipper war. Israel is surrounded by hostile enemies and Hamas has been running these attacks for a longtime. So no I don't agree at all with your take on the issue as Palestine being a bunch of rock throwing teenagers terrorized by the evil Israel. It is an erroneous oversimplification and seems to be the popular new gen Z, late millennial take on the conflict.
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There is this land where nation is pushed into for genocide, which contains radicalized terrorist group that does mostly unsuccessful violence with occasional kills. And Israels reaction is further push the genocide. Which is ofc totally unwarranted.

Invading the Israel is then just another mess in continuum of human warfare. In some sense, Israel had it truly coming while I don't know if I should support it.
 
somnilicious said:
and seems to be the popular new gen Z, late millennial take on the conflict.
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Dude, don't even start arguing with me on this issue. I actually visited Palestine as opposed to most other people who have formed their opinion on this matter based on fucking media reports, especially americans. Palestine isn't at all what you see on TV. Go and actually visit that place instead of lecturing me on something that you obviously got no clue about. Entire families have been kicked and are still being kicked out of their homes and farmland by jewish "settlers" but you don't hear or see those stories in corporate media, do you?

Jennn said:
Israel don't strap bombs to kids. Hamas do though.
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Ah yes, the age old fairy tale of Hamas strapping bombs to kids which people in all their naivete believe because of the effective photo ops that was done by Mossad.
Let me guess, you probably also believe the utter craptale that Palestine was a desert and only turned into a lush, green, fertile land after the jews arrived there, right? Go and take a look at pre-1946 pictures of that place. Palestinians already had entire cities and that whole place was already green.
Keep believing zionist fairy tales though. Your country is run by dual-loyalty politicians who transfer $30 billion in taxpayer funds per annum to a foreign nation, which you fail to even see, so who am I even arguing with? Go and do your homework first before you debate with me on this topic. I've been there in person, I've talked to the people, I've been in activist groups (not anymore due to private issues), etc. so don't lecture me with age old, run-of-the-mill propagandistic talking points that have long been debunked a million times...
 
Hexenstahl said:
Dude, don't even start arguing with me on this issue. I actually visited Palestine as opposed to most other people who have formed their opinion on this matter based on fucking media reports, especially americans. Palestine isn't at all what you see on TV. Go and actually visit that place instead of lecturing me on something that you obviously got no clue about.


Ah yes, the age old fairy tale of Hamas strapping bombs to kids which people in all their naivete believe because of the effective photo ops that was done by Mossad.
Let me guess, you probably also believe the utter craptale that Palestine was a desert and only turned into a lush, green, fertile land after the jews arrived there, right? Go and take a look at pre-1946 pictures of that place. Palestinians already had entire cities and that whole place was already green.
Keep believing zionist fairy tales though. Your country is run by dual-loyalty politicians who transfer $30 billion in taxpayer funds per annum to a foreign nation, which you fail to even see, so who am I even arguing with? Go and do your homework first before you debate with me on this topic. I've been there in person, I've talked to the people, I've been in activist groups (not anymore due to private issues), etc. so don't lecture me with age old, run-of-the-mill propagandistic talking points that have long been debunked a million times...
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I'm not arguing with you. I said my piece and I'm done but I have to say your ascertain that having seen the Gaza strip with your own eyes somehow gives you some vast understanding of the conflict is just ridiculous. I've been to Colombia 3 times but I'm not about to start schooling people about the Farc conflict as if I know something they don't. It's funny that you think you don't receive your news from media. Maybe God drops it on your head or you have some ability to travel through time and space to see and understand all things. I'm sorry... That is simply beyond my simple provincial American understanding.
 
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F.U.B.A.R. said:
Can anyone explain to this ignorant Euro exactly what the beef is between Palestine and Israel?

(If it comes down to religion, then they can both fuck off for being dickheads).
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I think this may have to do with a lot of the last 100 years of conflict but I haven't read much about it before mid 1960's

"In 1920, Britain assumed responsibility for Palestine under a League of Nations Mandate. During the next two decades, over 100,000 Jews entered the country. The British Army's operations in Palestine during this period were mainly directed against militant Arab groups who were opposed to this mass Jewish immigration"
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
Can anyone explain to this ignorant Euro exactly what the beef is between Palestine and Israel?

(If it comes down to religion, then they can both fuck off for being dickheads).
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It has nothing to do with religion. It has everything to do with the formation of Israel as a state and it's strategic importance to the west. The suez canal is vital and you as a Brit should be particularly concerned because if the Germans had successfully choked off the Suez Canal during WW2 than the UK would have been unable to continue fighting.
 
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Zionists stole the land that has been fought over 1000 years or so, dunno exactly. They pushed palestinians to this little zone and they've been doing all sorts of stuff to kill them, destroy their culture and generally just make their lives next to impossible. Few people left there are largely miserable and some radicalize and turn into hamas which operates in that area.

So mostly it is just zionists entitled behaviour. I am not well-versed in character of Hamas but it is apparently shitty organization, like every other organization humans ever come up with.
 
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