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I have talked with a lot of people about this, and I believe it is a relatively common theory for people to think, and I feel like sharing it here to see what you guys think.
I think that pot is ''meant to be''. Not only are their a great deal of natural cannabinoid(sp?) receptors in the brain that naturally take THC (and as far as I know, they have no other purpose, though correct me if I am wrong), but there are other things that push me to this theory as well.
The mind-altering effects of pot are very minimal, and one can very well easily think straight while high, and in fact, to some extent, have thoughts in a different approach than the natural sobriety that we know. The approach that I believe that thoughts occur are from switching extroverted behavior and thoughts into introverted behavior and thoughts, and in fact, to some 'creative' and abstract extent, more intellectual thoughts.

The way that I see pot is that it is not a drug to get messed up on, but it is a drug that opens a new behavior, and a new behavior that is very welcome by the body and mind, and a behavior that has its benefits and negative sides, just as being sober has it's benefits and negative sides.
I think that humans were meant to feed into these cannabinoid receptors, starting from perhaps a very early age of man or even further back species that had THC in their system on a regular basis, without the intention of getting 'high'.
So, in conclusion here, pot is a reality that we were meant to go to. Not to escape, not to do anything differently, but to have a second sobriety to life. The sobriety that is the pot high.

Thoughts?


(And just an FYI, is that I have very minimal knowledge of the purpose of cannabinoid receptors in the brain. My intuition is the only thing really that stems my knowledge of this, so I could be very wrong on this subject. If I am wrong, and you know about them, please tell me about them and, if you feel like it, provide an explanation of why this left-out or misinterpreted knowledge is either against or supportive of the theory)
 
endocannabinoid systems have been a part of vertebrate physiology for a long time, evolutionarily. Your CB receptors aren't just sitting there waiting for THC to hit them, there's a complex feedback relationship with many endogenous cannabinoids including anandamide and 2-AG, and this cannabinoid system is constantly interacting with all other parts of your brain and other neurotransmitter systems, as well as the enteric nervous system (CB receptors in the gut.)

Mother nature and evolution loves to recycle: its likely that before cannabinoids had anything to do with higher cognition it had a much simpler purpose in much less complex organisms.

The production of trichomes in the cannabis plant may have originally had something to do with heat/water regulation, or as part of an immune system for the plant / pest deterrent, etc.

Then those meddling humans came along and discovered they liked the cognitive effects that result from using exocannabinoids (THC) to stimulate the endocannabinoid system. This is purely a tribute to the ingenuity of people to explore the world around them.

When you're high, its easy to convince yourself that something that feels so right and good had to have been pre-planned, or meant to be, I definitely know where you're coming from, I've been there myself.

But evolution in general, and specifically the evolution of the cannabis plant and CB receptor systems in animals, is just an endless series of random accidents. The accidents that are largely advantageous stick around, and those that don't work out disappear pretty quickly. Marijuana has assured its survival as long as humans exist, but to say that this relationship is "meant to be" is just magical thinking.
 
I don't see why anything in existence would be in existence if it wasn't "meant to be". Anything synthetic may have not occurred in nature, however it was created by a creature that occurs in nature. If something that is created naturally then goes on to create something of it's own then is the new creation not vicariously created naturally? I reject the concept that all life was thought out and that every living thing has a set path in life or a destiny.

Also I think that being intoxicated by THC is not any form of "sobriety", its the opposite of sobriety. I disagree that the "mind-altering effects of pot are very minimal". Cannabis can effect people differently but it in no way is a substance that should be under estimated. I have seen first hand people losing almost all contact with reality through sustained cannabis consumption.
 
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i completely agree with the topic starter.

constantly having a lil thc in your system definitely has absolutely beneficial effects on your personality, mental health, physical health, and spiritual health.

it's the key to evolution.

not being ripped to shreds all the time, but being "up"

its a shamanic tool

not intoxication
 
ColinGibs said:
i completely agree with the topic starter.

constantly having a lil thc in your system definitely has absolutely beneficial effects on your personality, mental health, physical health, and spiritual health.

it's the key to evolution.

not being ripped to shreds all the time, but being "up"

its a shamanic tool

not intoxication
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I agree that weed can be used other ways instead of just getting "ripped".

Very low doses, so minute that a stoner would usually over-do it can be very good for an "up" feeling to where you're more alert, relaxed ect.

But taking a normal hit gets you far beyond just a simple buzz to lift you up.

Besides, lots of cannabis these days(high quality) is the indica strain dominants and they don't provide the up feeling. Maybe a SMALL hit would do that, but once you take a regular hit you get lazy as fuck.

If there were more 100% sativas going around my area then I'd be more into weed. These days I prefer psychedelics over weed because most weed just makes me retarded instead of enlightened.
 
i don't think weed can be revered higher than any other drug, when, after all, it is simply a drug. that being said, it is true that it has a surprisingly low addiction potential for the strength of its effect. also, it is much less inhibiting than most other drugs.

given the vagueness of "meant to be," i don't think any of us could give you a straight answer.
 
Blue_locus kind of tore my theory to bits.
Haha, that's alright though. I will come up with a response some day...

Anyways, having minimal amounts for an 'up' is not what I meant at all. I am talking, no matter what the amount is that you smoke, the uniqueness of THC and the pot high is that of a separate sobriety. Not a ''get up and start your day'', a complete, separate, sobriety, is my thoughts.
 
Yeah try telling that to the people whom it causes nothing but anxiety.

And ^ I Like bongs :P
 
Perhaps it causes anxiety to people, but I know plenty of people who have anxiety in normal sobriety as well. That doesn't make having nothing in your system a form of being unsober.
 
I have anxiety. But weed makes me practically psychotic. That's just how it affects me.

I'm not sure I understand how weed could be "meant to be." It simply evolved like all other plant life. It could not have become what it did because it "knew" people would enjoy smoking it.
 
The mind-altering effects of pot are very minimal, and one can very well easily think straight while high, and in fact, to some extent, have thoughts in a different approach than the natural sobriety that we know. The approach that I believe that thoughts occur are from switching extroverted behavior and thoughts into introverted behavior and thoughts, and in fact, to some 'creative' and abstract extent, more intellectual thoughts.
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I'm not sure about this. The mind altering effects of cannabis are only "very minimal" in those who smoke every day. For occasional tokers, the effects can be quite profound. Also, I can only speak for myself on this, but I do doubt very much that weed commonly generates more intelligent thought than sobriety. I'm somewhat introverted even when sober. When I smoke a lot, I become even more introverted - uncomfortable so if I'm around more than one or two other people. I certainly don't think I'm more intelligent when I'm high, however. Of course, ymmv and all of that, but from my own experience the vast majority of those who smoke do not become smarter, they only may think they are because...well, they're high. It's similar to how everything seems like a stroke of genius when under the influence of psychedelic compounds.
 
I also get the "natural" feeling from cannabis (occasional smoker), it feels not as a distortion of my ordinary mindset but a different, complementary mindset.
 
I'm 100% positive weed doesn't make me more 'intellectual'. In fact, I think I lose any ability to hold a meaningful thought when I'm stoned.
 
Very low doses, so minute that a stoner would usually over-do it can be very good for an "up" feeling to where you're more alert, relaxed ect.
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constantly having a lil thc in your system definitely has absolutely beneficial effects on your personality, mental health, physical health, and spiritual health.
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I like this idea. I have noticed that there are definitely benefits during the days after smoke sessions that sometimes seem more valuable than the high itself.
 
Well weed definatly isn't meant to be for everyone. I smoke once a day at night and have been doing so for just about a year. I really think pot has rid me of depression and sgnificantly curbed my anxiety. And those are things that are there even when im not actually under the influence of pot. For me pot seems meant to be because it feels so natural and is a pretty benign drug overall. Its harmless enough that even when smoking very heavily i never really had issues. I don't think pot was meant to be used by everyone but some people are meant to use it if you get what im sayin.%)
 
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I like this idea. I have noticed that there are definitely benefits during the days after smoke sessions that sometimes seem more valuable than the high itself.
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I liked those ideas too. I think it's just wishful thinking on my part though.
 
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