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Opioids Is tramadol useless for the opiate-tolerant?

Lechium

Lechium

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Ive never had tramadol and was thinking of getting some. I have been using some oxys here and there and h as well but mostly for short periods of time. when i had oxys last time i needed about 60mgs to really get a decent high. would it be pointless for me to order tramadol? if i got some how much do you think i would need to take? and at what point/dose does tramadol cause seizures?
 
To me yes Tramadol is a pointless pain medication if you already have to take or (choose) to take at least 60 mg of the other then u will be highly disappointed it really doesn't even compare, and as the seizure part everyone is different you can have a seizure with 1-30 or non at all.
 
About 400mg and up it gets dangerous. Its not completely useless I mean it won't ever really get you high but it works for pain and keeping dope sickness away. Its also a serotonin releaser which is also why it can cause seizures in people but it works as an anti depressant due to serotonin release. This also makes for some nasty withdrawals though because of its serotonergic effects on the brain causing symptoms similar to sudden SSRI discontinuation. But taking this drug to get high is a very dumb thing to do its so risky because its so easy to have a seizure while on it.stick to oxy if you want to get high tramadol is not meant to get you high.
 
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This is what I got started on, and at first, it did get me high, I could take like 4 (50mg) tabs and it would make me feel great for a few hours, but tolerance builds up very fast, within a week, I would need to double my dose to get the same feeling and then the risk of seizure and blackouts get higher, I had a few of these on tramadol and they come on very very quick, and your out cold within seconds, without any warning.

But if you are already taking other opiates, I wouldnt bother with tramadol, it wont give you any good feelings at your tolerance, it really only works good if you havent taken ANY opiates for at least a week or 2. Use your money for something better.
 
Yes. But, it is a GREAT potentiater for other opiates if you are tolerant/know your tolorerance. One of the best nods I ever had was on Hydrocodone and tramadol, think the dose was 80mg of hydro and 150mg of Tram...Havent had that stuff in forever. Would like to try it with my suboxone,since I've think I've heard you can take it with suboxone with good effects??
 
ah looks like it wouldnt be worth the money for me in that case unless maybe getting some to use as a taper to get off the harder stuff. maybe if i get clean for a long enough time then ill order some and try it out. what would be a good starting dose then? lets say if im clean for a month or more from opiates. i this point id probably be able to get pretty high off like 15-20 mg of oxy (not nodding but a good euphoric high for sure) then how much tramadol would be a good starting dose for me? and is there any difference between tramadol and ultram? from my understanding from doing a quick search its just a different brand and the ultrams are usually a higher mg? and do tramdol or ultrams have any acetaminophen or is that only in ultracet?
 
Tramadol has acetaminophen in them too they are basically the same just different brands. I would take 200 mgs mabye 3-400 but anymore is dangerous when you do it
 
i cant really get "high" off of it but i think its great for W/D. i usually TAKE 150MG TO 200MG and feels a ok pep..
 
I think a lot of the euphoric effects associated with tramadol are unrelated to its opioid effects, as evidenced by its enjoyability while on suboxone. I find tramadol quite euphoric and enjoyable but completely different from opioids. It feels more like a stimulant with a pronounced serotonergic aspect, there's just enough opioid activity to block withdrawal and that probably contributes to some of the euphoria, but I found it quite euphoric and stimulating while on a high dose of suboxone.

People find that tianeptine causes effects similar to opioids when it's abused. I wonder if some monoaminergic effect is common to these two. I don't think it's necessary to explain anything, but a friend on vivitrol finds tramadol quite euphoric and that it still has an opioid-like character (my simplification of his rambling description), which should be impossible given the complete blockade his brain is enduring.
 
Lechium said:
ah looks like it wouldnt be worth the money for me in that case unless maybe getting some to use as a taper to get off the harder stuff. maybe if i get clean for a long enough time then ill order some and try it out. what would be a good starting dose then? lets say if im clean for a month or more from opiates. i this point id probably be able to get pretty high off like 15-20 mg of oxy (not nodding but a good euphoric high for sure) then how much tramadol would be a good starting dose for me? and is there any difference between tramadol and ultram? from my understanding from doing a quick search its just a different brand and the ultrams are usually a higher mg? and do tramdol or ultrams have any acetaminophen or is that only in ultracet?
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Tramadol is the generic name for Ultram, both are the same thing, As far as I know they only come in 50mg tabs, but seems like I did hear something about them coming out with either an ES(extra strength) or ER (extended release) version of this drug, but not sure on that.
 
i had zero opiate tolerance, and tramadol was not the slightest recreational.
this was with 200mg doses.
 
Thats a shame...is it decent to use as a taper (sort of like kratom) or would it just postpone wds like if I were to take hydrocodone?
 
^^

Yeah you can definitely taper with it, but the problem is that it's so weak, even in the highest doses, that unless you had a very very small tolerance to begin with, it will not provide you with any relief whatsoever, so it would be akin to just going cold turkey.

I went to a detox once that used tramadol, went in with just a mid sized habit, not even a big one, and it did 100% nothing. I felt just as I did with no opiates in my system at all. The people that were in there for smaller pill addictions got some relief from it, but even them, barely.

IMO, if your habit is low enough to the point tramadol would help... then you don't really need a taper.. just stop CT.
 
Ok sounds like there is no point of even spending any money on it then ill just stick to the kratom I have to get me through these next few days of wd...shouldnt be too bad anyway I only used for about a week.
 
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Ehh.. pretty much, yeah. Hah. Unless your opiate tolerance is next to nothing, tramadol unfortunately is akin to taking sugar pills.
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Or like, sugar pills that give you seizures if you take a few of them at once, ha.

Tramadol is not recreational IMO, it's dangerous and there is very little of the reward that most opioid users are seeking, vastly exceeding the ratio of high level risk of seizures and interacting with other chemical imbalances in your body.
 
Pretty sure I've taken 20 trams before in one day. On more than one occasion. They don't do shit anymore. If you use oxy it's a waste for sure. And what?! 400mg dangerous? How have I survived so long? No bad reactions??
 
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