Is short term steroid use worth it?

S

sml-la

Bluelighter
Joined
Jun 8, 2011
Messages
59
Hello Hello,

I have a friend whose given me the opportunity to acquire steroids. I've wanted to start hitting the gym for a while now, and should have my membership in the next week or so. In the past when I've lifted weights long term, the results have always been slow and pretty much unapparent. I'm 5'10 and 135lbs, but was obese as a child, so my stomach has some flab to it. I don't really want to get super buff or anything, but really just want to build some muscle tone throughout my body. I've considered taking my friend up on his offer, but I'm not really interested in long-term use of steroids. Would going through one or two 10-week regimens produce any results? Are the side effects worth it? Is there anything I should know before using steroids?
 
Sounds like you need to eat a shit ton more food to me. 5' 10" and 135 lbs? I'm 5' 7" and 160 and gaining steadily with just proper eating and lifting. Post up your diet, routine, bf%, etc. Steroids aren't magic get fit drugs. Eat, eat, eat, and eat some more. Oh yeah, did I say eat? If I'm wrong though, please somebody tell me.
 
Yer I have to agree your not at that stage yet

P.s101 I'm about same as you I'm 5 7 and 163lb bf 9%
 
I'm no steroid expert, but I'm 19 years old and have been working out for 2 years and I still have much to progress before I do em. It doesn't make sense to use when your exercise and diet isn't optimal.
 
Bad idea. You might gain some weight and lean muscle in the short term but all those gains will be lost as soon as you come off the roids. Then youll be flabby again. Roids are bsst used when youve reached your bodys natural potential i.e. Have lifted for several years already.
 
I look at aas's being the sugary icing on am already fucking fantastic cake. or a nice paint job on a badass car. cuz once the paint fades you still got a nice car, but if you paint some piece of shit; yeah it'll look better but once that paint fades (and it will) you're left with that piece of shit car. also look up "set-point theory" which should further back the argument of waiting to juice.
 
Serotonin101 said:
I look at aas's being the sugary icing on am already fucking fantastic cake. or a nice paint job on a badass car. cuz once the paint fades you still got a nice car, but if you paint some piece of shit; yeah it'll look better but once that paint fades (and it will) you're left with that piece of shit car. also look up "set-point theory" which should further back the argument of waiting to juice.
Click to expand...

This is a really good analogy.

Lately I have been browsing /fit/ just to see how the uneducated steroid using crowd is doing and the new trend is skinny fat guys under 20 with no experience lifting using steroids to make gains they could of naturally. It's pathetic. These guys run a cycle and end up 160lbs with a little abdominal definition and some mass in the arms and upper body and think they are the shit.

Short term steroid use is only worth it if you have the foundation and a low enough body fat. I laugh at people who use steroids to make gains in 10 weeks that they could of made in a few months. It screams laziness. Congratulations asshole, you aren't skinny fat anymore but you will be in a month or two after that cycle because you don't know how to eat or train right. Enjoy your average at best physique while you can. If these people waited a year or two and made sure they had their diet and routine down par they would blow up and lean up something fierce.
 
-Guido- said:
This is a really good analogy.

Lately I have been browsing /fit/ just to see how the uneducated steroid using crowd is doing and the new trend is skinny fat guys under 20 with no experience lifting using steroids to make gains they could of naturally. It's pathetic. These guys run a cycle and end up 160lbs with a little abdominal definition and some mass in the arms and upper body and think they are the shit.

Short term steroid use is only worth it if you have the foundation and a low enough body fat. I laugh at people who use steroids to make gains in 10 weeks that they could of made in a few months. It screams laziness. Congratulations asshole, you aren't skinny fat anymore but you will be in a month or two after that cycle because you don't know how to eat or train right. Enjoy your average at best physique while you can. If these people waited a year or two and made sure they had their diet and routine down par they would blow up and lean up something fierce.
Click to expand...


Times like these I wish this forum had a like button.
 
sml-la, how old are you? If you're under 25 and you haven't even started working out then there is no real point in taking steroids. Until young men hit age 25 it's still possible to achieve a higher level of bone density and muscle "programming" before things become more set in stone, and that's because your body is still growing.

Working out will raise your testosterone levels naturally. If you have trouble gaining then maybe talk to a personal trainer or at least someone experienced to make sure you're exercising properly; after that, it's going to come down to diet, especially higher calorie intake. Younger men have more rapid metabolisms so it's harder for them to hold onto muscle mass, but it's doable with the right routine.

Don't be lazy or impatient by taking steroids. Your hormone system will be much harder to correct than some ab flab. If you take the steroids you'll fuck up your natural hormone balance and once you stop the short-term use your body will be throttled into a state much less healthy than it is now.
 
take prohormones that are legal like Haloplex from amazon.com ... they work and they are safe. If you work out hard or do a hard cut, its worth it and ammusing i suppose
 
motiv311 said:
take prohormones that are legal like Haloplex from amazon.com ... they work and they are safe. If you work out hard or do a hard cut, its worth it and ammusing i suppose
Click to expand...

Terrible advice.

Prohormones are garbage. All the side effects of steroids with very little benefits.

The only prohormones worth taking are actual designer steroids but they need to be use din conjunction with Testosterone or Testosterone and other injectables to be effective. Some of these designer steroids are 17a orals and are not to taken lightly.
 
-Guido- said:
Terrible advice.

Prohormones are garbage. All the side effects of steroids with very little benefits.

The only prohormones worth taking are actual designer steroids but they need to be use din conjunction with Testosterone or Testosterone and other injectables to be effective. Some of these designer steroids are 17a orals and are not to taken lightly.
Click to expand...
the incredible superdrol! you try any of the "clones" guido or is the original the only way to go? mind you this would be for me ~2 years down the line with a test base. I would try prop for kickstart but until I get used to pinning id like to stick with a longer ester for less pinning.
 
-Guido- said:
The only prohormones worth taking are actual designer steroids but they need to be use din conjunction with Testosterone or Testosterone and other injectables to be effective. Some of these designer steroids are 17a orals and are not to taken lightly.
Click to expand...

Why is this your mantra? People make awesome gains at 8-12 mg of Ultradrol, 30-40 mg of epistane and a host of others.


I guess what I'm trying to say is, if you're taking a solid dose of a methylated oral, and are taking great care of yourself (along with TUDCA/UDCA), are you really missing out on all that much?
 
reason is that oral only cycles are short and the body does not become accustomed to carrying that extra muscle (set point theory) and often needs extra time with this new muscle to make it more permanent/able to last til the next cycle. also orals shut down natural test so say goodbye to your libido unless you have (exogenous) test floating through your system. gotta pin to win. plus why cause possible severe liver damage for minimal short lasting gains when test can cause a lot better gains, maintains your bodys natural test needing functions, AND permits more permanent gains.
 
Serotonin101 said:
reason is that oral only cycles are short and the body does not become accustomed to carrying that extra muscle (set point theory) and often needs extra time with this new muscle to make it more permanent/able to last til the next cycle. also orals shut down natural test so say goodbye to your libido unless you have (exogenous) test floating through your system. gotta pin to win. plus why cause possible severe liver damage for minimal short lasting gains when test can cause a lot better gains, maintains your bodys natural test needing functions, AND permits more permanent gains.
Click to expand...

Spot on. I couldn't of said it better myself.

If you want to do cycle that focuses mainly on orals simply run a small amount of Testosterone in conjunction with orals. Nothing says you have to run 500mg of Testosterone E a week. You could run 250mg of Test E a week, or run 25mg of Testosterone Propionate a day in order to maintain your energy and libido. Testosterone is needed for proper biological function. If you use orals only, your Testosterone levels become zero, production ceases, and issues arise.
 
Serotonin101 said:
the incredible superdrol! you try any of the "clones" guido or is the original the only way to go? mind you this would be for me ~2 years down the line with a test base. I would try prop for kickstart but until I get used to pinning id like to stick with a longer ester for less pinning.
Click to expand...

The clones are just as good. The only difference between the original and the clones is the chemical nomenclature.

2a,17a-dimethyl-5a-androst-3-one-17b-ol
2a,17a-dimethyl-17b-Hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one
17b-Hydroxy-2a,17a-dimethyl-5a-androstane-3-one

All of those are Superdrol. Same compound but different nomenclature.
 
-Guido- said:
The clones are just as good. The only difference between the original and the clones is the chemical nomenclature.

2a,17a-dimethyl-5a-androst-3-one-17b-ol
2a,17a-dimethyl-17b-Hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one
17b-Hydroxy-2a,17a-dimethyl-5a-androstane-3-one

All of those are Superdrol. Same compound but different nomenclature.
Click to expand...
thanks man. just wanted to be sure as I've seen some clones priced pretty low and others priced pretty damn high (like 4-5x the other prices) and was wondering if the different clones were different substances with similar effects. though if it becomes an issue of hunting stuff in the grey market I may just go all blackmarket. if you don't mind me asking, did you use anything to kickstart your first cycle? if so what was it?
 
Superdrol. Makes me feel like sleeping for 15 hours but I love the stuff. I love it so much I see no reason for myself to ever use Dianabol.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top