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Misc is brain damage recovery possible?

Dawglaw said:
Lemon - I remember reading your posts about inhalants a few months ago and being very concerned. I really hope you have quit using that shit to get high.
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I second that one. It only took a few 60-90 second trips for me to pass out and decide I'd rather not be a vegetable any time soon.
 
I used inhalants for years. No significant long term damage that im awake of. Cats in my brain cats brain!! I, personally, think people exaggerate brain damage paranoia.

But, lung cancer, etc, may be a real issue. You may not care*now* whether you live or die, but cancer takes a long time to kill you, usually.

And, you're just 'fucking over your future self.' Yknow?

Anyways, if someone who had a stroke can recoup their loses, you can too.

Recovery may be relative to your age, general health ( heart health and brain health, in particular, are intrinsically linked ) etc.

Anyways, good luck with it. Many of us started down this road 'self medicating' depression, terminal boredom, or various mind states caused by our normal reactions to a dysfunctional world, childhood abusr or whatever, right?

Further reading: 'In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts' by Gabor Mate.

:-)
 
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Brain damage is a very real deal. You may not become 'retarded' per se, but it can seriously impact your communication skills and reasoning. I've seen it in my uncle. He was pretty normal from what I can remember of him when I was maybe 10 and younger. I'm 23 now, and somewhere along the way he picked up a few chronic habits. Inhalants, crack cocaine, and alcohol were the main DOC's that I'm aware of and he's all fucked up, even in sobriety. He can't hold down a job, he hasn't had a girlfriend since the one that left him when I was 10, he lives with grandma, he almost never talks anymore, he does really stupid shit while gmom is out of town that she'd have to be blind not to notice when she gets back.. He's just not the same guy.
 
Not sure a 10 year old is the best judge of character here...

Not trying to argue, just pointing that out. Your assesment as a younger kid may not be the 'control' needed as a good starting point.
 
No, but I matured enough during the progression to see the change. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to make a correlation like that. Granted, he may have already been unstable before he started using and it's quite possible that someone else could do the same exact things and not lose nearly as much intellectuality, but you can't really rule yourself out until it's too late.
 
I see your point.

I guess the most important question for youncle's sake is...A) can he stop? How. B ) what supps might help him with withdrawals and recovery and C) if he stopped for a good long period , how much of his former self could he regain, granted...he's also aged during that time. And age and stress are both detrimental to the brain, I am told.


Anyways, I still think brain damage is overrated and causes a lot of knee-jerk, baseless fear. Its there but overrated, in my opinion.

I mean remember ...up until a decade or two ago people thought your brain cells *never* grew back. That was taken as gospel truth for many people.
 
GUROch420 said:
Brain damage is a very real deal. You may not become 'retarded' per se, but it can seriously impact your communication skills and reasoning. I've seen it in my uncle. He was pretty normal from what I can remember of him when I was maybe 10 and younger. I'm 23 now, and somewhere along the way he picked up a few chronic habits. Inhalants, crack cocaine, and alcohol were the main DOC's that I'm aware of and he's all fucked up, even in sobriety. He can't hold down a job, he hasn't had a girlfriend since the one that left him when I was 10, he lives with grandma, he almost never talks anymore, he does really stupid shit while gmom is out of town that she'd have to be blind not to notice when she gets back.. He's just not the same guy.
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thats an upbeat and postive post. Unless you have some kind of solution or way to help that wraps in with your story i feel this could have been unsaid. Sometimes i have to ask myself the question of is what im gonna say gonna help the situation at all or is this just gonna further the damage or just create more unneeded worries. Ya its reality for you but i feel the posts above this have already hit home on that topic for this op.
 
This is a harm reduction forum. Stating the dangers of inhalants is important, especially when people are saying they're "overstated" in the same thread.
 
A solution that wraps in my story would be to not fuck around with inhalants long-term.
 
I've seen this happen to countless drug forums.

When it just becomes a pain in the ass posting here ... people will go somewhere else, or stop posting.

Anyways, I do feel like drug use mediated (?) 'brain damage' is a bit overrated / exaggerated ( only because it's so well known ).


But, I certainly support your right to tell your story without being hounded about harm reduction...and am genuinely hoping all goes well for your uncle and you.

Sheesh, the internet.
Right? Nonstop bickering.


The Shallows ~ N Carr
Chapter Seven...
 
Dude, really? I mean, really? You're trying to guilt me into shutting up about my stance against inhalants. It's not gonna work, buddy. I caution you, as well as everybody else abusing inhalants, you are frying your brain with every single use. It's not like coke, meth, or heroine where a year of use will leave its scars but most symptoms will pass with time after cessation, but this isn't the case with inhalants. You get maybe a 2 minute rush and it scrambles your brain more than most other drugs could do after the full duration. The problem with that? You're tempted to redose. With such a short duration, you could very easily do just as much damage to your brain in 1 day as any other type of drug user could do over weeks, months, or years. Since the point has been brought up about this being a harm reduction forum, I'm gonna say that if you absolutely have to do inhalants, just try it. Do it a few times, just to see what it's like, maybe watch an awesome music video in the process, such as "Ratfinks, Cannibal Girls, and Suicide Tanks" by White Zombie off of the movie Beavis and Butthead: Do America, notice you feel brain dead afterward, realize that it's not a good sign, and never do it again, or at least only very very rarely.
 
GUROch420 said:
Dude, really? I mean, really? You're trying to guilt me into shutting up about my stance against inhalants. It's not gonna work, buddy. I caution you, as well as everybody else abusing inhalants, you are frying your brain with every single use. It's not like coke, meth, or heroine where a year of use will leave its scars but most symptoms will pass with time after cessation, but this isn't the case with inhalants. You get maybe a 2 minute rush and it scrambles your brain more than most other drugs could do after the full duration. The problem with that? You're tempted to redose. With such a short duration, you could very easily do just as much damage to your brain in 1 day as any other type of drug user could do over weeks, months, or years. Since the point has been brought up about this being a harm reduction forum, I'm gonna say that if you absolutely have to do inhalants, just try it. Do it a few times, just to see what it's like, maybe watch an awesome music video in the process, such as "Ratfinks, Cannibal Girls, and Suicide Tanks" by White Zombie off of the movie Beavis and Butthead: Do America, notice you feel brain dead afterward, realize that it's not a good sign, and never do it again, or at least only very very rarely.
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I don't know what you're talking about.

I'm not trying to 'guilt you' out of, or into, anything.

Quite the opposite.

I'm saying you shouldn't be hounded about harm reduction, esp as this was kinda your whole point I think. Harm reduction.

Jesus, people argue so much online it's like we all just expect everyone to be after us about something.

Anyways, as I said, good luck with your uncle. :)

The Shallows.
Read it. Live it.
 
Yeah, I was kinda just talking about the whole thread. But, BL doesn't let me reply to many posts...
at the same time.

Sorry about that.

Anyways, the internet breeds paranoia and distrust. Trolls don't help but the very nature of non-direct dialog is flawed. Sigh. I hate it...and one day will get back to an offline existence. One day...*far off look on face, wavery visual effects as I dream*

OK. Well...anyways...
:)
Good luck, guy!
Take it easy... :)
 
Engage said:
Anyways, the internet breeds paranoia and distrust. Trolls don't help but the very nature of non-direct dialog is flawed. Sigh. I hate it...and one day will get back to an offline existence. One day...*far off look on face, wavery visual effects as I dream*
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How pathetic.
Maybe you should stop trolling and start putting your words into action?

Just a thought.
 
I think the answer is: yes.
The brain is certainly capable or rewiring and recovering from (even severe) trauma. There's hope yet!


Just hold on! Anyone suffering post-inhalent binge depression. Just hold on.
<3

And, find something cleaner / safer to imbibe in the meantime. :)
 
This is turning into a pissing contest.

It is almost universally accepted that inhalants are among the absolute worst drugs around. I have seen the first hand irreversible and permanent damage that they can cause. It is absolutely horrible. It would be tragic if some 12 year old kid stumbled on this thread and read that "it is debated that they are that bad and the brain can regrow itself."

I am all about people having the right to chose what they put in their body; however, inhalants are absolutely terrible for you. If you abuse them, there is a high probability that you will incur serious, irreversible medical problems.
 
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