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invitation to brainstorm about evil methods being maybe good

MeaCulpa

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I rooted my android phone recently. Hardly a P&S issue.

I was checking into apps that you can install that require root. One allows you to knock other users of a wifi network. My first thought was that such an app was kind of evil. Then I started thinking about if there would ever be a justifiable reason to use such an app. If I own the network I think its OK. I thought of a second reason, theoretically that I'd use it. If I were a Panera's employee, or Starbuck's, and someone was using the place as their office. Hardly buying anything and being nasty to other customers and/or staff, this would make it OK I think. This all sparked a memory of moral theology stuff.

I'm raised Roman Catholic and loath so many aspects of RC, but I keep coming back to certain RC moral theology principles at times.

A primary RC moral theology thing is anti-consequentialism. Essentially its a tenet that you can not ever do something that is intrinsically evil even if its to accomplish an essential good. This is something that fucks me up. Its like when to overcome someone taking over the Enterprise's computers, Spock trained all the computers on calculating Pi. I've committed intrinsic evil before, likely will again. And the issues will likely be more serious than knocking someone off a wifi network.

Would you torture someone because you know there is a WMD in a populated area ready to go off? I find torture to be intrinsically evil, both in its effect on the tortured and its effect on the torturer. Its absolute wrong. Impending death of millions, I'd have to at least consider it.

I'm a relativist in almost every way. 'You can not do intrinsic evil to accomplish a good purpose" seems right on to me if if it is a little absolutist.

I very well might install the app that enables me to knock people off wifi. Fortunately my real life seldom requires really heavy moral decisions. Knocking someone off a wifi network is naughty, not evil.
 
Boot em and then say ten mea culpas
j.k.
One doesnt "make" absolute truths.
They come from God.
God alone has that authority.
Do unto others as you would have.....
and you'll be fine.
 
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To do something intrinsically evil for a greater good could be a good act - however it is beyond our capability to know what the final result is. However, it is still a malicious act.

For an act to be truly evil, you must look at every possible permutation of a situation, and determine what action would cause the most disturbance over the course of time.

Instead of focusing over the act, focus on the immediate intent of the act.

Altruism, kindness, ,maliciousness we are capable of - good and evil we are not.
 
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Nicely put!

I see it as absolute truth/good being a polar opposite to absolute untruth/evil.
When you move towards absolute good you move away from absolute evil.
We cant move in same direction at same time.
Your always traveling in one direction.
The two are inversley proportional.

But to point of torture,
I would honestly hope I would be tortured to get information I had that would save millions of innocencent people.
I wouldnt consider my torture for not giving up information as evil.
I would agree the person torturing me is just.
 
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