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greenhaze

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I am wondering about something. I have been IVing chemicals for a good 6 months or so. I certainly don't claim to be an expert, but I have a question. Every once in a while, when I IV a substance, whether it be an opiate or coke, or whatever, I get a big swelling in that area.
I think that I must have missed the vein. I pull back on the needle, and think that I see blood, but I guess I am just hallucinating (sp). After I put a good 30 units or so in a (what I think is a vein) there is a big swelling in the area that lasts a few hours. I imagine that this is due to missing the vein and unfortunatly doing an IM. I seem to see a little blood and stick the substance in, but don't feel that rush and the area swells for a little while. Whenever I do hit the vein, (which is usually) I get all that rush.
Is this because I stuck it through the vein completly and did an IM and that is the way that the skin reacts? It never seems to cause any permanent damage and never gives that fun rush, but just gives a big sweling and slowly releases the drug into my blood. It is quite painful by the way, too.
Any answers would be appreciated.
[This message has been edited by greenhaze (edited 13 October 2001).]
 
Do you still get a rush? Does it seem/feel like you hit a vein from the high you get?
If so, it could just be the cut...when I've IVed shitty coke or meth, the area of the injection site will swell up for a day or two; nothing too serious and no damage of any sort, but just a vein unhappy from the impurities in the drug.
 
I dunno, it seens that I missed the vein completely because I dont' get the immediate rush. I just get a big, sort of painful swelling that doesn't go away for a few hours (at least).
Is this something that happens to other people while they are pretty much fucked out of their minds? I know very well how to do an IV injection, but after 6 or so hours of being high, your brain just doesn't quite work as well.
This isn't too bad for you (permanantly) is it?
[This message has been edited by greenhaze (edited 13 October 2001).]
 
Youre doing what i used to,and every novice needle plunger does.
You think youre hitting the vein,but just as you decide its time to plunge ,you re not holding it steady enough,and what happens is that some gets IVed,but the rest gets squirted below the skin and around the vein causing the swelling,which is completely harmless btw.
After many of these attempts by me and others that i allowed to play Human Pin Cusion on me,i got very friendly with a hooker (who i eventually shacked up with),who did it for me perfect every time.So after watching her for a few times i could do it perfectly as well.
[This message has been edited by [u.k neuronauticals inc] (edited 13 October 2001).]
 
Alright, I hear what you are saying. I just get a little shaky after a whole night of banging coke. I know that I put the coke in the vain, but sometime during the injection, I must have pushed it through the vein.
I've banged coke at least 8 times or so tonight and all the injection sites are fine and no probs at all. Excep that one. It hurst like hell and I was just a little concerned about the area. It's been a good 4 hours or so and I was just curios about it.
This isn't a long term problem is it? I believe that it'll be fine tomorrow...
[This message has been edited by greenhaze (edited 13 October 2001).]
 
Definately not long term,at least it wasnt for me.
Why dont you try other possible sites?
The veins in youre foot are very pronounced,and its quite easy to shoot there.
The twister vein in youre wrist is huge if you can get it to come out properly.
 
That's true, I just usually concentrate on my arms. The central vein in each inner elbow is good for a couple of injections each.
The one that I fucked up is the one that runs along the inner arm (the big long one) and I guess I just got over confident and thoought I was in there when I really wansn't since that vein is so pronounced.
Any other comments?
Damn, it's 9:00 in the morning and I haven't gone to bed yet. Hoping to get some more info on this when I wake up in about 8 hours after the 6 mg of Xanax wears off...
[This message has been edited by greenhaze (edited 13 October 2001).]
 
It does sound like you just happened to miss a vein (or punch through it, like you said). This will heal -- if you leave it alone, it should repair itself within a couple of days. As long as it doesn't seem to be getting worse, there isn't any bleeding, and after a day it seems to be improving, then you will be fine. If it doesn't seem to be getting better or is getting worse, go get it checked out as you might have done more serious damage.
 
You think youre hitting the vein,but just as you decide its time to plunge ,you re not holding it steady enough,and what happens is that some gets IVed,but the rest gets squirted below the skin and around the vein causing the swelling,which is completely harmless btw.
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It is not nessisarly completly harmless. In most cases the cell tissue will absorb the liquid+drug. But in some cases the immune system will see it as an infection and surround the injected matter with white blood cells. These white blood cells will then die and form a quarentine. This usualy leads to an infection that must be treated by antibiotics or it will just get worse. We've all had our slip ups, but this is something that should RARELY happen. If it happens often you need to learn proper injecting technique before you end up with an infection.
ALSO:
If you pull back on the plunger. You see blood. You can't "think I see blood" when you pull back the syringe will FILL with blood. Period.
[This message has been edited by Deus121 (edited 14 October 2001).]
 
Yes, I'm fully aware of that, and I really have been taught the proper way to do an IV, it's just that when you are really high as hell, I guess you don't really pay attention that much. I know exactly what that crimson cloud looks like, and will make fully sure to pay attention next time.
 
If you are too high to inject then don't inject. IV drug use is not something to be taken lightly. What if you were so high you hit an artery really badly? And it caused loss of blood to a limb?
 
question ...
if u IV a drug...like H ..u also IV the stuff H is cut with..doesnt that damage ur veins and ...? or is it so that the stuff it is cut with usually is not dangerous ? how can u tell ?
 
Yes, injecting the cut could potentialy be bad. The dosage of heroin is so small that the cut will be minimal, which is good. And hopefully whatever it is cut with will be nonharmful to your veins/organs. There is no way to tell if the cut is harmful or not, its a risk you take with injecting street drugs.
 
Most heroin and cocaine (the two most popular drugs to IV) are not cut with anything too harmfull ... soundsl ike you're just missing the vien though - pushing all the way through perhaps?
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Deus,from the information in the original post,(which didnt mention anything about coke going brown prior to injecting),its obvious hes encountering the same 'problem' most intravenous users encounter when they start.
I said its 'harmless',because it is,even if it didnt dissapear,all you do is go to the doctors for antibiotics,which is excactly what i had to do a number of times.
Im sure if it concerned him that much,or if indeed he was in pain,he wouldnt be stupid enough to ask for help from here ONLY.
There is no need to create any hysteria (or petitions).
 
BTW the guy from this post and the guy from the IV coke post(why is my coke turning brown?),are two different people.
Get your facts straight before you decice to complain about advice in a petition thread,with mixed up information.
Also,'skin popping',is a legitimate way to get heroin in youre system.
[This message has been edited by [u.k neuronauticals inc] (edited 14 October 2001).]
[This message has been edited by [u.k neuronauticals inc] (edited 14 October 2001).]
 
I did mention in my thread they were two seperate instances. And your replies were not the sole basis to my thread. And "skin popping" while it may be something that works, its not something that you should do with street drugs. If you weren't a retard you'd know that.
 
Read youre shitty post again,you said 'in one instance someone asked about IVing coke.He then said that after cooking the coke went brown and after injecting,the area around the site swelled'.
He didnt say that,he said nothing like that.
It was the guy in this post that had swelling,so once again get youre facts staight FUCK HEAD!
Its so obvious youre just trying to cover youre ass now, because youve been exposed as an incompetent fool.
[This message has been edited by [u.k neuronauticals inc] (edited 14 October 2001).]
[This message has been edited by [u.k neuronauticals inc] (edited 14 October 2001).]
[This message has been edited by [u.k neuronauticals inc] (edited 14 October 2001).]
 
Actualy, in a reply TO HIMSELF he did state that. Mods please lock this forum as I think nothing useful is coming of it now. Just personal attacks on me because I called this idiot out on injecting into the tissue.
 
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