Intramuscular DMT 25mg - First time IM DMT - Just an experiment.

[yaesutom]

Intramuscular DMT 25mg hcl - First time IM DMT - Just an experiment.

This was just an experiment to see what the IM route is like with DMT. The hcl salt is like a yellowish 'goo', just like Shulgin describes in the DMT entry in Tihkal. I had 32mg and dissolved it into just over the amount of distilled water needed to dissolve it all - I had just 1/2mL insulin syringes (i'm new to IM'ing, don't plan on doing it much, although if i get some ketamine this is the way to go with that) and just around 25mg worth of the solution would fit. I squirted a little out onto ph paper just to make sure it was neutral and i made the hcl salt fine. Yaaay.

12:44 - Just IM'ed about 25mg DMT hcl. Clap clap!!!

12:47 - Alert! I feel a come up here.

12:49 - Not much to talk about, more effects.. hmm, growing faster.. the screen / letters changing, size changes.

12:50 - Long trails moving my hands, the radio is on and it sounds like time is sped up, they are talkign fast. :51 yeah, screen is doing its, well, i feel i'm slowly being launched.

12:52 - I feel the vibrations, the music sounds like its blending or something, slowly climbing up, i think I will get off this computer and go lay down.. its 12:54.

12:57 - Still here, still growing, nice minor CEV's, i think i'll run to the bathroom.

1:05 - Very strange.. Distortions of size, minor, but seems like i'm bigger or something, walking around the house. I guess i'm at a plateau, feels like an oral dose x2.5 or so. I can tell, that damn piracetam is interfering again, it definitely alters DMT in a negative way different than how it affects most other psychedelics.

1:11 - Feel some vibrations again, feels like there's a sine wave effect, coming in waves, the screen "doing its thing". Oh yeah, i'm horny too, what a suprise! NOT!!!! DMT always makes me horny . Damn you all, those with sex partners that use drugs, using DMT but not ..having sex, ugh.

1:25 - Seems on its way down, slowly.

1:35 - Still some trails and the fluidity but its definitely almost done with. Just took a couple hits of some good pot.

1:45 - Just about gone, no more trails, maybe a tiny tiny bit fluidness still but thats it .

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Well not too exciting, everything was pretty much as i expected from reading. Its mostly like orally, but no MAOI needed, lasted about 1/2 the duration as an oral dose would (for me) of ...like 60-70mg, and of course the come up is much quicker. I'd rather just eat some harmaline and a capsule of DMT though, or smoke it hehe %). If i had larger syringes like 2mL or so i'd try a much larger dose, but, blah, i'll stick to oral/smoking.

Exciting! haha.

 

[Morninggloryseed]

Wow, excellent report! I am definitely going to explore the DMT IMed route one day. I have dozens of syringe filters, so I will add that to the procedure for extra safety. Now explore 5-MeO-DMT IMed for us! :D

 

[yaesutom]

^^

lol, i thought you were gonna try the 5-meo-dmt IM thing? hehe.

I definitely want to try ketamine + DMT, i'd take the DMT orally and IM the ket.

Yeah, taking piracetam is definitely interfering with my DMT habit, err, um, experiments . Although I think when I was taking the same dose of piracetam per day for weeks/months continuously it wasn't as bad as my sporatic use lately. Hmm... the benefits of piracetam...or DMT..arghh!

 

[bluedolphin]

Is the Piracetam still worth it for you to take it regularly? I noticed a drop in noticeable effect after a week or so, and then it seemed to be interfering with amphetamines I was taking for exam week, so I stopped all together.

Still got like 300 grams left though, I'll probably start eating it again at some point...

 

[fastandbulbous]

I've tried 6mg of 5-MeO DMT via the IM route. It doesn't have the "flash, bang, wallop" that smoking it does, but it still comes on faster than any other psychedelic I've tried by IM route (never IM'd any DMT, but it's faster than IM ketamine onset).

During the first 5 minutes I'd keep getting moments of intense anxiety that would come on suddenly, last for a couple of seconds then disappear just as quickly. Bouts of what I could only describe as being like vertigo also popped up and were generally accompanied by a tingling feeling (though might have been a bit of hyperventilation).

After about 5 mins, I started to feel very warm (a bit like the salvia "prickley heat" sensation), and the effects started to level out around the 10 min mark. Still felt warm/flushed sensation, but the vertigo and anxiety had gone by then.

What followed then was about 20-25 minutes of a very calm, reflective mood, but not the "sit down" sort of calm, as walking around the house, making sarcastic comments to my cats felt quite good. There was almost no visual distortion, other than the rainbow fringe effect that looking through glass, acting as a prism would produce.

The one thing that disappointed me was that the deep introspection that comes with smoked doses was only weakly present; the calm euphoria was more like an empty your mind/medatation type than the whirling vortex from smoking.

All in all, from start to finish took about 45 mins in total. There was no residual pain at the site of injection, although the leg in question felt a little more tense than usual.

Using a 10mg+ dose might well have produced effects like those from smoking, but the longer ascent felt like I had time for moments of rising panic to occupy me (unlike smoked, where it's too quick a climb to organize thoughts into an anxiety mindset, or as a friend described it "the only thought you're capable of is whoosh yer fucka".

I might try 6mg IM again to see if the above was typical, but if it is, I'd not go for a third time because of the increased anxiety mindset. I will give DMT a try with this route sometimes though.

Chronology of effects is approx due to nature of intoxication (you know what I'm talking about!!)

 

[Esau]

what muscle do you inject it into? your leg?

 

[digital_phreedom]

were there any mental effects? thought expanding.. tree branching effect? thought loops, confusion? i've heard so much about DMT visuals.. but not much to describe the state of mind accompanied by it, although i'm sure it's hard to describe with mere words.

 

[Irate_Scotsman]

Excellent, I'm glad to see you finally got around to trying this! When you say it is much like the oral route, does this method of ingestion have any effect on the character of the trip, like the MAOI does in oral use? I imagine it would be an 'intermediary'

How did you go with the 'cosmic censor'? Does the DMT experience merely need to be slowed to shunt said bastard, or is it necessary to 'tie in' the DMT to your neurochemistry with a MAOI?

Damn I'm jealous! If you still got some of that lying around I imagine it'd be worth trying a smaller IM shot with an MAOI (not that I'm suggesting you do anything illegal or potentially hazardous or anything ), sounds really efficient and a great way to pack a huasca trip into a shorter timespan.

 

[bluedolphin]

were there any mental effects? thought expanding.. tree branching effect? thought loops, confusion? i've heard so much about DMT visuals.. but not much to describe the state of mind accompanied by it, although i'm sure it's hard to describe with mere words.

A medium/low dose of DMT leaves your mind pretty "sober" and fluid ... and this is perhaps what makes DMT seem so intense. You're right though, it's very hard to describe.

 

[Mean Girl]

12:44 - Just IM'ed about 25mg DMT hcl. Clap clap!!!

haha, this made me laugh really hard, that classic moment when you think about what you've just done and all you can sum it down to is a "clap clap". Gold!

 

[yaesutom]

Is the Piracetam still worth it for you to take it regularly? I noticed a drop in noticeable effect after a week or so, and then it seemed to be interfering with amphetamines I was taking for exam week, so I stopped all together.

Well, i've found that I only get the best effects of piracetam after taking it daily for 3-4+ weeks actually. Also I think taking it regularly "lessened" the piracetam+DMT "bad" trips i've had, compared to lately only taking piracetam occasionally. I'm curious what effect with amphetamines has it had with you? I know i've read about potentiation, but with me it seems to do the opposite! (thats when I was taking piracetam daily for a long time).

were there any mental effects? thought expanding.. tree branching effect? thought loops, confusion? i've heard so much about DMT visuals.. but not much to describe the state of mind accompanied by it, although i'm sure it's hard to describe with mere words.

Well with DMT, especially higher smoked doses, it sort of forces you into a meditative mindset, you don't want to think, you "can" but it feels natural to just let go and experience it. Lower doses my mind is mostly normal, this did seem like a low-medium dose although god dammit i think piracetam in my system WAS interfering. DMT is definitely different - instead of racing thoughts or fractal tree deep thoughts its sort of a calm, uh, how to describe it..like this is now experience it and think later? something like that hehe.

Damn I'm jealous! If you still got some of that lying around I imagine it'd be worth trying a smaller IM shot with an MAOI (not that I'm suggesting you do anything illegal or potentially hazardous or anything ), sounds really efficient and a great way to pack a huasca trip into a shorter timespan.

Yeah it just seemed like an oral dose without the maoi (specifically harmala alkaloids) but lasted shorter - actually, DMT orally at least with me, only seems to ever last about 1.5-2hrs! Already too short! I'm used to having to re-dose after an hour and a half if i want to extend it .

I think i'll just stick to orally and smoked, although whenever I get my hands on some ketamine i'd like to try IMing that, either during a huasca trip or smoke some DMT as the K is coming up.

I'm curious to try some of this DMT hcl under the tongue..without maoi, just to uh, see if it works, i guess. I know 5-meo-dmt works this way. (not sure if a salt or freebase would absorb better this way?)

 

[DB Cooper]

Wow that sucks about time length Yae. My huasca trips seem to last a good 7-10 hours. The comedown seems to take FOREVER, I always get trails/giddy mindset for the longest time.

Im kinda curious on how you redose though. Do you redose an maoi too?

You pretty much hit the nail on the head describeing the mental mindset. I dont even want to think on DMT. It has given me the worst looping I have ever had though. I just kept saying "The key to the universe is" and then I would forget it. Try doing that for an hour while rolling around on your floor with visuals so intense it dosent even matter if your eyes are open or closed, your seeing the exact same thing. I did deserve the ass kicking though, and Im better for it, but wooooo that was intense.

DB