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Into the mind of god?

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When I am coming down off pills and having nitrous I experience some very bizare thought processes. I always come away from a 3-4 bulb hit with a feeling I have briefly understood the grand concept behind everything. Some of my friends also experience this and we have gone on many a 'voyage of discovery' sessions on the bulbs,the experience is alot stronger when coming down off MDMA.
Anyone else get this sense of a glimpse and understanding of something very profound, or a we just a bunch of jibbering drug fucked idiots.
 
I had a 3 nang hit once (I won't do more than 2 now cos 3 made me hyperventilate) while listening to this really evil drum n bass track.
Its hard to explain (aren't they always?), but it was like the world had ended...and had turned into hell...only instead of being scared n shit, I just had this feeling of total acceptance. very bizarre experience, but not bad
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I've noticed that I have two types of nang trips: mental and physical. Sometimes I have really profound thoughts and go off into my own little world, and other times its more concentrated on the physical sensations. Anyone else get this? I seem to have both sorts when I have nitrous after E, but I've had only the physical type when on acid (which is weird, cos acid headfucks me really bad)
 
I think what we are talking about here is Psychedelia. I was peaking on a MDMA/SPEED pill and had one bulb. The experience was otherworldly, it showed me what I would call heaven, god whatever you call it. On Nitrous I have entered very strange states of being which I have also experienced in deep meditation. After my experience with E/Nitrous I have decided to take a good look at myself and have returned to deep meditation and am practicing OBE's again. I found that when I meditated on LSD I gained a EXTREMELY deep insight into the mind of god.
Whether these are simple process of the brain/mind, or whether an external process is comming into play is a matter of belief system, whatever the feeling represents, it is one awesome and wondrous feeling that should be treated with respect. Some people have talked about the feeling as a close relative of psychosis, I doubt that since they have never actually felt it, they have only read text books and find no interest in altered states of conciousness and the direct experience of the mind, not a knowedge based experience( not actually having felt it, but knowing about its existence). I'll stop jabbering now!
PS : Has anyone else here done any work with OBE's(Out of Body experiences) without drugs? I have had two experiences, and a third wierd touch of an OBE this morning.
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Love to all!!!!
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>Has anyone else here done any work with OBE's(Out of Body experiences) without drugs?
i'm a little hazy on the technicalities of OBE's - i have done a little bit of work with astral projection (not much) but i'm not really sure if this is what you are talking about
however, the most amazing experience i have ever had was after my ear operation when i was extreme pain and couldn't take any painkillers because i was reacting to the kodine (sp?). anyway, the pain was so intense that i sort of just closed my eyes and went "beyond the pain" (if that makes any sense) i was flying outside of my body (kind of above it i suppose) but in this weird sky of smokey, purple rolling waves. i was flying and dancing and swimming through the waves, sommersaulting and i felt so safe and it didn't matter about my ear, only then my mum made me "come back" to give me some different medication and all i wanted was to go back to the other place. i tried a little later on that day and other times since but have never been able to go 'back'.
and well, that's my most significant OBE experience (without drugs) that i can think of (hope i didn't completely bore anyone!)
catch ya's all later!!
 
I know what you mean about the physical and the mental effects of bulbs, for ages I only saw bulbs as a purely physical buzz, but now because of the mind and thought processes in I mentioned in the original post, I find that the high is totaly mental and rarely notice the physical effects anymore. This is probably because that is where my focus is now when I have bulbs.
It is indeed an amazing and special place, and we are constsntly trying to come up with terms to descibe it but it seems to be beyond the constaints of our language. The best I've been able to come up with is a term that always seems to be in my mind after a session 'everything replicated to infinity'.
As for OBE's I've never had any unaided by drugs but have had 2 very intense ones using drugs, once with Ketamine and the other with very strong LSD that I think was induced by us fucking around using a torch as a strobe, weird unexplainable shit happened that night (Like mental telepathy with a friend) that our current understsnding of the brain and how it works cannot explain.
 
Does anyone get that dissolving feeling when they have a nang?
The best physical nang I ever had was when I was candyflipping - I was lying on my bed, and I kind of sunk into my bed, which became like a cloud and was lifting me upwards. Then my body dissolved into millions of tiny droplets that were moving around really fast, and bumping into each other, causing extreme pleasure
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Whenever I dissolve like that, I always feel like there's something different when I come out of the nang, like the molecules have been put back in a slightly different place and changed me somehow.
One of my favourite songs to nang to is dissolved girl by massive attack
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This may sound kind of sicko or something, but I'd like to explore the relationship between pain and nitrous. I burnt my finger (on a cold nang) once and then had a nang, and the burn felt amazing! it was still painful, but in a really bizarre and unexplainable way, it wasn't
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I'm considering taking a balloon with me next time I get a piercing hehehehe
 
i've had my strongest drug experiences on nitrous and nitrous alone. it is a truly awesome substance. i, too, had one of those drug epiphanys after a two-bulb hit.
one of the strongest feelings i often get at the peak of a bulb hit is the feeling of vibration. once, during this epiphany, i felt as tho i could feel every single atom in my body vibrating, as i felt that i could the space between them, the void that they were vibrating in, and my sudden realisation that on a quantum level very little of me was actually existing at that point.
it felt as tho my physical being was a fractal expression of energy, and that my concious mind ws the only thing holding it together...
major league wierdness i admit, but its one thing to read about chaos and quantum mechanics, its another thing to feel as tho yuo have experienced it directly.
what is it about this substance? it is an amazing simple chemical, yet can have such a profoud effect on our conciousness...
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"i think i'll stick to drugs to get me thru the long, dark night of late-capitalism..."
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Hmm thats the feeling I get also JB that I have grasped the meaning of the whole concept of Choas, Quantumn mechnanics,and a understanding of infinity. Ever opening visitas stretching down to a molecular level and beyond, and up into infathomable largeness. Its so frustrating every time I go back there I marvel at the aparant simplicity in its complexity!( a paradox I know but these are difficult desciptions)and remember previous visits there!.
Other effects I get is the effect I suppose drownig people call'Life flashing before my eyes' and other weird phenom like memories appearing that have not been thought of in 15 years, and even weirder, memories of things like smells from 20 years ago.
Very interesting stuff ,one thing Ive wondered has anyone ever tried this stuff on Ketamine? Its something I really want to experience as I think the results could be amazing.
 
My experience with bulbs have been amazing. It was a 3 nang hit in Leps car. Just me and the universe and I understood everything. I didnt put anything together, everything was just really clear. No fear, no joy, no sadness, no happiness. Nothing. It was as if there was no existance. It was profound. I can't explain it. It is a deep deep drug with amazing powers (gawd I sound like a druggie) But you all know what I mean, don't you.
 
All right. My friend and I call bulbs whippetts! And there is only one way to describe how one feels after a few whippetts at once or in a row: WHIPPETT DUMB! (Horse said it)
Now be careful. Don't confuse this with dumbness. All I'm trying to say is that after a whippett or two my mind feels like it's gone BEYOND the thought process and it's on a higher level than thinking. I haven't really had it enough times to "explore" on a bulb, but I can easily see how one could come up with some pretty weird shit.
As for God, well I don't know. I am a non-believer myself. I don't really believe in a creature like God, but I'm sure that there are forcer out there beyond our comprehension which we can only access by unlocking more and more parts of our brain. Maybe for a very short time nitrous does this. I certainly think acid does, but on a different level.
You all should read a book by Vohnegut, called Slaugtherhouse 5. In a part of it the main character meets a race which can perceive things in all four dimensions. Now we can only perceive in 3 dimensions. Now these creatures can comprehend many more things than us and they can also see, hear, etc, things that we don't even know exist.
We also have to remember that we can only use less than a fifth of our brain!!! Imagine what the rest would let us, feel, see, experience!!! Maybe whippetts help with this...
Enough of my crap. In conclusion...hehehe...I definitely agree that there's some pretty weird shit going on in your head while you're on nitrous, but damn I like it!!!
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Wow, this thread is amazing. I have felt so many of the things described above.
None of the peeps i do nangs with seem to have the same *profound* experiences. The interesting thing i find is that each time i have a nang i seem to develope my *understanding* further, i don't just relive the same experience. So i guess i should just have lots of nitrous so i can learn more quickly
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Another weird feeling I get:
almost every time I have a nang, it seems infinitely better than the last one...does anyone else get this or do I just have a bad memory?
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can one develop a tolerance to nitrous?
God....I so badly want some now....even considering driving all the way to the other side of the city to buy a box!
 
But really, nitrous is and oxymoron isn’t it. You can discover the universe, delve deeper into your mind than any person has ever delved b4, while at the same time can't understand why newspapers could possibly cost money, and why, no-matter how hard you try, you just cant stand up straight. My theory on whippitness is still developing but I think in about 1 month’s time it will be complete and my faq will be posted. I think nitrous is now my favourite drug over everything. Only problem is that it last such a short time, it doesn’t give you the chance to solve the world. I think a bloolite bulb nite is in order very very soon. Ill arrange it soon. This Saturday? Down the beach? I will only organise it if there is sufficient enthusiasm.
 
Fractals!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is it exactly!!!! Whatever thought process my brain is in during a Nitrous High, it always associates with fractals. The best insight I ever had was the fact that we are simply a analogy or the simplest form of existence, a WAVE of energy, we are also analogous to an energy wave, yet through the process of a fractal we differ on a conceptual level, ie WAVE != HUMAN. Very interesting, I am almost there now! WOW! I love that feeling of just KNOWING!
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It doesn't matter what you say, it is all inside your head!!!!
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Well, to get it into your head you first need to say it I guess. Oh well!
I'll be going walkies now!
......... - Skips of into the distance in a dream like trance - ........ - Never to be seen again - .........
PSYCHEDELIA IS WONDERFULL!!!!!!!!!! I WANT TO TRY DMT!!!!!!!!!!! My friend was wondering what DMT and Nitrous would do if you had them simultenously! WOW! What a Mind Blowing experience! Not for the faint of heart!
 
I've been bulbing for about 9 years now (i have american friends in high school to thank!), and I am continually amazed at the power of such a little drug to take yuo so far.
Especially whilst pilling, or on the back of a good dose of ghb.
When fully bulbing it is a curious mix of physical sensation and sensory manipulation. Delving under the folds of the bulb can be an illuminating experience. Sometimes I feel the bulb slows things down, and I can see the inter-relationships of people and how they relate to me. It is a selfish drug, and it sometimes seems to explain to me that we sometimes consider ourselves to be the centre of the universe.
Curious, but lovely nonetheless.
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A bulb meetup would be good, but even better would be a regular meeting of bluelighters interested in psychadelic brain exploration( sort of like the experimental groups in Phikal).
Where as a group we can hunt down, try, discuss the huge range of psychadelics out there, experiment with combinations and compare notes etc.
Anyone interested?
 
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