Bubbleberry
Bluelighter
Ok kids there has been something really serious happining to the chicago rave scene in the past few weekends im going to have to warn you that this post is very long but worth reading.
This is some info i have gethered fom various chicago message boards.
the first thing....
Here is what is going on. CPD has a mission, a new-year's eve resolution, if you will; To use whatever tactics are necessary to scare away party kids and promoters alike out of Chicago. Will this work, for a bit. Will this have a long term affect on our scene, no. Why? Yes, I too have been asking a lot of questions lately about this, and here is what I have found out.
First, this is a cycle of give and take. According to promoters that I have been talking to, this happens every year. Is this the worst year yet, possibly (it is still only the second week in the new year people, it's not like we are in week 35 of a battle with CPD). But, depending on how certain events transpire in the very near future, this may be over in the next month or so. I say this is a cycle of give and take people because of this: parties aren't legal. And there is NO permit for a "rave". Regardless of what you all have been told and have heard in the past, no party is technically legal. The only permit for a party are a bunch of Ben Franklin's, period. Granted, a "legal" venue helps, but there only about 500 laws that are broken by a promoter, party kids, and others alike to hold an event, namely drug possessions, curfews, noise complaints, etc. etc.
Second off, as Kick It showed us, this only affects parties thrown in CHICAGO CITY LIMITS. Dolton is *just* far enough away from all the Chicago cronies, for now... (I'm just waiting to see if Chicago tries to annex Dolton, just to screw with us. If so, you heard it hear first folks! )
Thirdly, it is caused by all these websites out there now promoting raves? Most likely no. And even to a finer point, these places like Raveworld.net and Raverworld.com expound upon only the better parts of the rave culture for the general public to see, people dancing to the rhythmic beats of the night. Another reason why I say no is because these types of crack downs have occurred long before the web was popular, and because if the cops wanted to know were a party is at, it really isn't all that hard. They can walk into a record store just as easily as you and I, and they too can tail party goers from the map point to the venue quite easily.
So, where does this leave you and I? Expect more parties at Dolton, and some fresh venues out in the Suburbs, but expect the Dolton for the time being, because the Suburbs are generally tougher to get support for an event than the city. (Ie: take that how you will)
Consequently, expect expensive parties. Dolton doesn't come by cheaply.
Also, to answer the question: How are these CPD Cronies busting down parties? Simple enough. Remember how I said that there are about 500 laws broken by promoters, party kids and everyone else? Well, one of those laws broken is a company charter, or lack thereof, weather it be for-profit, not-for-profit or non-profit. (Yes, there is a difference between the latter two, but I won't delve into that now) Most of your promotion companies are just a bunch of people with good intention, to throw a bomb-ass, cheap, low-over head party. Consequently, certain corners are missed in the name of lower ticket price, and this includes getting your business registered with the State of Illinois, and your Charter. Also, because Chicago has extra special requirements, a business located in or does work in Chicago also needs to file paperwork with the City of Chicago. Most promoters don't bother. (It takes about 3-4 months with Chicago to file non-for-profit charter paperwork.)
Is what Chicago CPD doing legal? Doubt it. They stand on shaky ground right now, but
honestly, so does our scene. The word Rave is starting to be our scene's Achilles heel. Am I a raver? By all definitions of our term, a solid YES! But, that also doesn't help whatsoever, if our raves keep getting shut down. Boogie tribe is doing this, Smooth Movement and Flashback have done this: What we go to is not a rave, per se. It is an event, a techno-music feastable, an electronica music jamboree. (Yea, I was kinda stretching that one thin.... ) Anyway, the word Rave needs to be selectively used. Remember folks, you always preach this "underground" attitude towards raves. Why not learn some "underground" practices, and not be so blatant about parties?
Sad isnt it?...
and another...
A handful of major political figures influenced my New York City's Mayor Guiliani have litereally invited the DEA and ATF to come and "regulate" the chicago rave scene.
This is not going to stop anytime soon my friends! A lot of other very traumatic things have been getting publicity lately too!
There was a girl on ecstasy raped at route66 a month ago, another 14year old raver was shot in the face by another over a bad drug deal in November.
Authorities have been buzzing about someone named "spider" for a long time...
There have been several break in at animal clinics and the authorities believe the suspects WILL be found at raves... Edmund V is under surviellence... I don't think you guys realize that this board is not memebers only!
Authorites sit on here silently all the time! Nothing you say on this board is protected at all... and unless you submit from remote locations outside of your home or your friends homes.. you are subjecting yourself to a major risk.. so much is about to go down... I must admit I feel sorry for a lot of you. You are in way deeper than you think. Be careful.
This information is not that hard to come by.. I work in city hall...
Those of you on high volume
This is a really bad thing for the time being
i would strongly suggest staying out of chicago raves untill this calms down. i wouldnt want to see any of you guys having to pay money to get thrown out 10 minutes later.
Plur
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MaD LoVin, Jessiy
This is some info i have gethered fom various chicago message boards.
the first thing....
Here is what is going on. CPD has a mission, a new-year's eve resolution, if you will; To use whatever tactics are necessary to scare away party kids and promoters alike out of Chicago. Will this work, for a bit. Will this have a long term affect on our scene, no. Why? Yes, I too have been asking a lot of questions lately about this, and here is what I have found out.
First, this is a cycle of give and take. According to promoters that I have been talking to, this happens every year. Is this the worst year yet, possibly (it is still only the second week in the new year people, it's not like we are in week 35 of a battle with CPD). But, depending on how certain events transpire in the very near future, this may be over in the next month or so. I say this is a cycle of give and take people because of this: parties aren't legal. And there is NO permit for a "rave". Regardless of what you all have been told and have heard in the past, no party is technically legal. The only permit for a party are a bunch of Ben Franklin's, period. Granted, a "legal" venue helps, but there only about 500 laws that are broken by a promoter, party kids, and others alike to hold an event, namely drug possessions, curfews, noise complaints, etc. etc.
Second off, as Kick It showed us, this only affects parties thrown in CHICAGO CITY LIMITS. Dolton is *just* far enough away from all the Chicago cronies, for now... (I'm just waiting to see if Chicago tries to annex Dolton, just to screw with us. If so, you heard it hear first folks! )
Thirdly, it is caused by all these websites out there now promoting raves? Most likely no. And even to a finer point, these places like Raveworld.net and Raverworld.com expound upon only the better parts of the rave culture for the general public to see, people dancing to the rhythmic beats of the night. Another reason why I say no is because these types of crack downs have occurred long before the web was popular, and because if the cops wanted to know were a party is at, it really isn't all that hard. They can walk into a record store just as easily as you and I, and they too can tail party goers from the map point to the venue quite easily.
So, where does this leave you and I? Expect more parties at Dolton, and some fresh venues out in the Suburbs, but expect the Dolton for the time being, because the Suburbs are generally tougher to get support for an event than the city. (Ie: take that how you will)
Consequently, expect expensive parties. Dolton doesn't come by cheaply.
Also, to answer the question: How are these CPD Cronies busting down parties? Simple enough. Remember how I said that there are about 500 laws broken by promoters, party kids and everyone else? Well, one of those laws broken is a company charter, or lack thereof, weather it be for-profit, not-for-profit or non-profit. (Yes, there is a difference between the latter two, but I won't delve into that now) Most of your promotion companies are just a bunch of people with good intention, to throw a bomb-ass, cheap, low-over head party. Consequently, certain corners are missed in the name of lower ticket price, and this includes getting your business registered with the State of Illinois, and your Charter. Also, because Chicago has extra special requirements, a business located in or does work in Chicago also needs to file paperwork with the City of Chicago. Most promoters don't bother. (It takes about 3-4 months with Chicago to file non-for-profit charter paperwork.)
Is what Chicago CPD doing legal? Doubt it. They stand on shaky ground right now, but
honestly, so does our scene. The word Rave is starting to be our scene's Achilles heel. Am I a raver? By all definitions of our term, a solid YES! But, that also doesn't help whatsoever, if our raves keep getting shut down. Boogie tribe is doing this, Smooth Movement and Flashback have done this: What we go to is not a rave, per se. It is an event, a techno-music feastable, an electronica music jamboree. (Yea, I was kinda stretching that one thin.... ) Anyway, the word Rave needs to be selectively used. Remember folks, you always preach this "underground" attitude towards raves. Why not learn some "underground" practices, and not be so blatant about parties?
Sad isnt it?...
and another...
A handful of major political figures influenced my New York City's Mayor Guiliani have litereally invited the DEA and ATF to come and "regulate" the chicago rave scene.
This is not going to stop anytime soon my friends! A lot of other very traumatic things have been getting publicity lately too!
There was a girl on ecstasy raped at route66 a month ago, another 14year old raver was shot in the face by another over a bad drug deal in November.
Authorities have been buzzing about someone named "spider" for a long time...
There have been several break in at animal clinics and the authorities believe the suspects WILL be found at raves... Edmund V is under surviellence... I don't think you guys realize that this board is not memebers only!
Authorites sit on here silently all the time! Nothing you say on this board is protected at all... and unless you submit from remote locations outside of your home or your friends homes.. you are subjecting yourself to a major risk.. so much is about to go down... I must admit I feel sorry for a lot of you. You are in way deeper than you think. Be careful.
This information is not that hard to come by.. I work in city hall...
Those of you on high volume
This is a really bad thing for the time being
i would strongly suggest staying out of chicago raves untill this calms down. i wouldnt want to see any of you guys having to pay money to get thrown out 10 minutes later.
Plur
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MaD LoVin, Jessiy
