In search of Utopia - Opiates on Acid?

[Plague Bearer]

I guess many 'psychonauts' are in search of some kind of Utopia. For me the concept of an experience full of rich imagery and highly imaginative states would be verging on Utopia, yet we all know acid can go either way. But my question is regarding opiates, now I have read TripDoctor's experiments in this region, but alot of the heroin users on this forum see heroin as a utopia.
Are there any comments people have on combining the two, acid and heroin perhaps?
I've no experience with opiates, which is why I'm asking this question.
thanks

 

[superluminal]

Plague Bearer....
Opiates can absolutely help you harness the power of certain psychoactives. LSD would be a great example, if you ask me.
The opiates would damp the nasty physical side effects of street acid, and provide an antidepressant/antianxiety effect that should help steer things in a pleasant directly.
Of course, not everyone can handle their opiates responsibly.

 

[[u.k neuronauticals inc]]

ive never tried acid without using heroin also,so ive never known any different.
(i prefer the term 'neoronaut')
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[SovietContin]

Here's a list of opiate/LSD combos I've tried;
LSD + Vicodin - gave me a confused and somewhat uncomfortable trip on the two occassions I tried it.
LSD + Percocet - this was great every time, but seems to make you more fucked up than really give you a euphoric trip.
LSD + Tylenol 3's - you have to take quite a bit of T3's to get fucked up off the codiene, so your stomach will feel a little uncomfortable, probably, but this will give you a mellow somewhat dreamy trip.
LSD + MSContin - only tried this once. I felt really sick as a result of the morphine and really wasn't paying attention to the fact that I was tripping at all. Had a bad time.
LSD + Heroin - I did this twice and really hated it both times. Very physically and mentally uncomfortable.
LSD + opium - Now this is a good combination. It's a very slow, mellow, euphoric and incredibally dreamy trip.
As for a utopian drug induced state, there really isn't one, unless you maybe took some super potent mushrooms or something.

 

[SovietContin]

Here's a list of opiate/LSD combos I've tried;
LSD + Vicodin - gave me a confused and somewhat uncomfortable trip on the two occassions I tried it.
LSD + Percocet - this was great every time, but seems to make you more fucked up than really give you a euphoric trip.
LSD + Tylenol 3's - you have to take quite a bit of T3's to get fucked up off the codiene, so your stomach will feel a little uncomfortable, probably, but this will give you a mellow somewhat dreamy trip.
LSD + MSContin - only tried this once. I felt really sick as a result of the morphine and really wasn't paying attention to the fact that I was tripping at all. Had a bad time.
LSD + Heroin - I did this twice and really hated it both times. Very physically and mentally uncomfortable.
LSD + opium - Now this is a good combination. It's a very slow, mellow, euphoric and incredibally dreamy trip.
As for a utopian drug induced state, there really isn't one, unless you maybe took some super potent mushrooms or something.

 

[greenhaze]

Of all the opiates I've used and all the times I've tripped on acid, I've never actually mixed the 2. But I can say with pretty much certainty that mixing the 2 would be a pleasant experience.
I would definately like to grab a couple 80 mg OC's next time I eat a few blotter tabs. I have pretty much quit using hallucinogens (sp) because I got so interested in other drugs, but if I ever trip again, yes, utopia would be the word.