Stimulants Illicit speed

[AcidAttack]

So i'm interested in information on speed particularly in the UK and western Europe, not sure about Canada but here in Australia, like Russia its all cut meth as its cheaper, worth more and easier then normal amp, when ive managed to get some paste, ive noticed that you cannot inject it, i was told that is a sign its origins must be pharmaceutical, but that can't be right, its a street drug because its illegal, unlike say the US.

So is most of illicit or pharm production? why is speed paste always in that form? i guess water weight explains the paste, but even then, it should dissolve clear, is it cut with chalk or some shit? why would you cut with something other then baking soda, the easiest cutting agent you can get and it dissolves.

Another thing i don't get is this sulphate business, isnt speed paste just sulphate that just isn't pure? which is it, d or i isomer? both like adderal? are they different? also which type is more common with the illicit samples, do isomers even matter?

Is there anywhere that has results of speed getting lab tested? and i mean proper tests, that mention every drug found and the mg amounts.

 

[THE_REAL_OBLIVION]

In Canada, speed pills are mostly meth, sometimes simply amphetamines too, so yeah, it's powder pressed into a pill, the paste thing seems secluded to the UK and northern continental europe.

Here, if white and a quality print, it's usually just meth. Very shitty prints on white pills (white is code for speed in the illicit pill world here, don't believe me? look up pillreports). I got out of that scene once the same dealer who always brought me quality sold-as-meth pills was containing something else, what, I don't know, it wasn't BZP or any of its relatives, no fizzing on the tongue, but I had 4 consecutive really HARD POUNDING arrhythmia beats from that Beer Cap shaped (yep, just smaller) Molson Dry pills. If one looks at pillreports, everyone says that shit was dangerous. Takes a couple hours to kick in, and then you just feel really awake, but no euphoria, on the contrary, dysphoria and after taking 4 or 5 pills in a couple days and that cardiovascular event, I called back the guy and told him to stop selling this particular print (he had all kinds but would change randomly whenever a friend came back with 15 or so to my house) and he started to yell at me like a typical methhead and I'm out of that scene ever since. I suspect the pills contained PMMA and that I'm lucky to be alive. I got myself a script for Adderall XR 25mg later and a couple months after, 2x 10mg Dexedrine spansules in the morning, 2x 5mg IR at 3-4 pm depending on how much more work I had to do at the time. I no longer have that job and just stockpile my script these days, useful for when I want to do amps but I'm getting old and speed is harsher on the system the longer you age, especially if you spent all of your 20's partying hard...

As for testing, you can order E pill testing kits easily on the internet, they will tell you if what you have is amphetamine/meth with an orange result.

 

[angeleyes]

... not sure about Canada but here in Australia, like Russia its all cut meth as its cheaper, worth more and easier then normal amp

Huh? Regular amphetamine does exist in Australia unless I'm misunderstanding this bit?

 

[THE_REAL_OBLIVION]

Well they have generic dexamphetamine pills. I would suspect their street speed is meth. Actually ( I know about prices but this isn't about me, just a general observation), Australia's drug scene is for the rich only, 1k a gram of meth over there, and other ridiculous prices like that. So I imagine most abuse comes from those generic 5mg dexies.