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Illicit Amphetamine in North America

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Has anyone ever encountered actual racemic or d-amphetamine powder here? In Europe it seems all they get is regular amphetamine whereas methamphetamine completely dominates here. I've never even heard of non-pharmaceutical amphetamines.

I kind of wish it was around because it's less toxic than methamphetamine.
 
Why would you want illictly produced amphetamine powder when you can just get pills?
 
^You're not so restricted in terms of ROAs. My friend got some illicit amp the other day, actually. I hadn't heard of it before then.

^^Adderall is a shitty racemic mix.
 
^^ Hello dexedrine? What ROAs can you use illicit amp that you can't use pharmaceutical amp?
 
Intranasal and IV?

The real issue is the price though -- pharmaceutical amphetamine is well inflated above actual manufacturing costs.
 
Forgot about IV. I know many people that snort their adderall and dexies though. The price is a bit high but you know what you're getting...
 
AMEN!

I ask myself this all the time. I really really wish we could get it. I guess the precursors are harder to get?
 
I'm in mtl, canada and all I've seen around here is speed pills but ive gotten different ratios of d,l amp, pure dextroamphetamine only two or three times, and o yea the dirty, methamp laced shit as well and you can use any ROA with dex or adderall, only it involves more effort with certain ones, if you want to smoke it you gotta convert the amp/d-amp sulfate/saccharate to the hydrochloride salt, and if you wanna IV it you gotta do an extraction but I've found plugging it is as efficient as snorting it only it lasts a lot longer.
 
kzorro said:
Forgot about IV. I know many people that snort their adderall and dexies though. The price is a bit high but you know what you're getting...
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I've heard of some people IVing their amps, mostly dex because addy ends up a flourescent orange color, even after wheel filters etc. So the ROAs aren't as limited...
 
They aren't limited even for adderall, if you have a lot of them you simply extract the amphetamine with IPA and then its safe to IV.
 
Yes I have

I have found some,,it was was prescribed to a friend to lose weight,its not the pills its powder that he mixes in water,each teaspoon is 80mg of amphetamine
 
MethadoneMan said:
I have found some,,it was was prescribed to a friend to lose weight,its not the pills its powder that he mixes in water,each teaspoon is 80mg of amphetamine
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Wait are you saying a doctor actually prescribes "pure amphetamine powder" ?? If that is what ur saying do you know the salt form that its in or what isomer it is?
 
Yeah I've wondered this too. Europe is all about the amphetamine base whereas all we have is crystal meth.

I know meth synth is really easy but regular amp can't be that hard. It's been produced illicitly a lot longer than methamp has.

I sure wouldn't mind having some regular amphetamine available.
 
Actually i don't think they synth dexamp, I always thought it was pharmaceutical dex that was cut and pressed into pills, it wouldn't really make any sense to synth meth (which gives the strongest high and is what most speed users are after) than to go through the trouble of not only removing the methyl group but then separating the optical isomers and removing the peripheral one from the mix. Its too time consuming and causes dealers to waste time and money and its not like they give a fuck that meth's more toxic and addictive if they're selling it to begin with they're only out there to make money. But what's amphetamine base? Not freebase amphetamine?
 
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