If you've taken class A's what sort of lifestyle did/do you have?

[TheMagicCoder]

I hope this question doesn't offend anyone.

I grew up around drugs. I lived on a poor council estate when I was growing up. My Dads brothers were all drug users and all died from drug abuse. They were serious drug abusers and hooked on heroin, and crack. I got to see the damage those drugs done first hand from about the age of 3 until they died when I was around 18. Put me off drugs for life (although I smoke weed). I also seen many friends turn to the harder drugs at 15-16 and the estate we lived on was pretty bad for drug abuse.

The only drug users I've seen were the ones that would rob your house if you left it unattended. I honestly do not mean any offense by this, I am just going by personal experience.

I'm interested to know, if you've taken the harder drugs what lifestyle did you lead at the time? Did you have a good job? Did it ruin your life or did you manage to keep a handle on things? Is it true that there's some very talented people who lead normal lives yet are addicted to the harder drugs?

2 of my uncles were very wealthy before they got hooked on drugs. One used to own his own decorating business and worked on the homes of the rich and famous. The other owned a couple of shops and drove around in sports cars. In the end drugs got the better of them and the last 10 years of their life they lived in what literally looked like a crack house. My uncle sold all of his tools over the years for drugs and I witnessed their decline. It's pretty upsetting thinking about the lives they could have had. My Dad is the only person left out of his side of the family, and I'm glad he didn't turn to drugs.

Look forward to reading the replies

 

[szuko000]

When I was actively using opiates to a degree more then just oxys on the weekend I actually had the same job I have now. I got this job in 2011 literally the week after I started doing dope because oxys were too expensive. That quickly escalated to IV heroin addiction. I kept that going, with the same full time job, until i got on subs in November of 2012. 2013 saw me clean but my g/f and younger brother still addicts so i was still smoking crack and spending all my money on that and weed. I relapsed about 18 months ago and got on methadone like 3 months after i relapsed and have been clean since. That is the short version of a very long tale, believe me.

The one thing i have above most is i got a job, discovered heroin, kept attending that job daily to afford heroin and never got fired or left. I mean at my worst i was getting deliveries to the parking lot and shooting up in the bathroom, some days i had to beg my boss for money, or "suddenly have to go take my mom to the doctor because her car is dead and she cant miss the appointment (and so on)" But none of it really effected my work performance. It should be noted my boss was not a moron and pinned me for a drug addict like months after i was IVing, never fired me for it just talked to me about it and said "this is going in the file as an official final warning this is covering my ass in case your in bad shape at the office." My family got small trinkets for Christmas as i would split like 20 bucks between 3 people but I was trying to live a normal life. I did pawn anything i could and would routinely pawn my phone, borrow money and ask a coworker for her hydromorphones but I always paid back personal debts... credit cards and banks not so much.

Now I just do hobby science if you will, something i always kinda did but more profit driven when i was using. Now i just blow my money on trying to learn things at home if you. I went from blowing all my money on drugs to blowing it all in a strange attempt to learn how to do random stuff i guess, though i much prefer it this way.

 

[TheMagicCoder]

When I was actively using opiates to a degree more then just oxys on the weekend I actually had the same job I have now. I got this job in 2011 literally the week after I started doing dope because oxys were too expensive. That quickly escalated to IV heroin addiction. I kept that going, with the same full time job, until i got on subs in November of 2012. 2013 saw me clean but my g/f and younger brother still addicts so i was still smoking crack and spending all my money on that and weed. I relapsed about 18 months ago and got on methadone like 3 months after i relapsed and have been clean since. That is the short version of a very long tale, believe me.

The one thing i have above most is i got a job, discovered heroin, kept attending that job daily to afford heroin and never got fired or left. I mean at my worst i was getting deliveries to the parking lot and shooting up in the bathroom, some days i had to beg my boss for money, or "suddenly have to go take my mom to the doctor because her car is dead and she cant miss the appointment (and so on)" But none of it really effected my work performance. It should be noted my boss was not a moron and pinned me for a drug addict like months after i was IVing, never fired me for it just talked to me about it and said "this is going in the file as an official final warning this is covering my ass in case your in bad shape at the office." My family got small trinkets for Christmas as i would split like 20 bucks between 3 people but I was trying to live a normal life. I did pawn anything i could and would routinely pawn my phone, borrow money and ask a coworker for her hydromorphones but I always paid back personal debts... credit cards and banks not so much.

Now I just do hobby science if you will, something i always kinda did but more profit driven when i was using. Now i just blow my money on trying to learn things at home if you. I went from blowing all my money on drugs to blowing it all in a strange attempt to learn how to do random stuff i guess, though i much prefer it this way.

Very interesting read. That's one heck of a good boss you got there.

What sort of hobbies do you do at home? I noticed you mentioned science. I've always wanted to mess with Cannabis under a microsocope, but I'm absolutely awful at science. Good with programming, crap at everything else ha ha.

Kudos though, I respect your honesty. It's good that you pulled through.

 

[szuko000]

Yeah I love my boss, he retired this year but the dude was great. I recently changed my wall paper at work to Rick and morty blogger art and he's the only one that would find it funny. I mean I'm sure he'd tell me it was inappropriate but we have had discussions about L in the past and he's an avid cartoon fan.

But my main interest is chemistry but that's largely theory so when I do things they tend to be more practical. Quick example tomorrow's my day off this is my 3rd week off methadone so I have motivation again. I plan on getting bismuth metal from pepto bismol tablets tomorrow for my element collection. I also plan on starting the process of making anhydrous ethanol from fruit, cranberries my brother got from work to be exact. It's not for drinking but rather as a fuel and solvent. It's a very useful skill to be able to produce fuel from rotting fruit and the way I see it you never know what the future holds. But I say "science" because it's not exclusive for example I have Petri dishes I plan on propagating the distillers yeast I have so I don't have to buy it again. There's no real point to any of it but a lot of it is based on helping my future existence should I be left to my own devices I guess.

It's a decently unique story so I like to share the short end of it. The way I see it is it didn't have to end well but I always knew it would even at the very worst I'd tell my (now ex) g/f that someday it wouldn't be like it was... and I always say "give it time I'm always right in the end" yay happy endings lol

 

[TheMagicCoder]

That's impressive mate. Half of that stuff you mentioned about chemistry went straight over my head but it's a fascinating subject and if you're able to it successfully as hobby then hats of to you man.

Proof that good things can come from bad situations I guess. Have you studied chemistry academically? Or do you have any plans to do so? Definately something you should look into if you enjoy it. Saying that though, the Internet is full of everything probably more than you could ever learn at a college. Do you keep a blog or anything about your experiments? People love that shit on YouTube.

Off topic, but I was looking into how LSD is made last night. I have no plans on attempting to create it, I am just oddly fascinated with such topics and like to watch crazy things on the iPad in bed.

Much respect to you, seriously.

 

[szuko000]

Majored in chemistry at a major state university for 3 years until I ran out of funding. My life has been about chemistry for as long as I can remember so I've been reading about theory since I was making pressure bombs with soda bottles at 14 and science before that, I just fell in love with the never ending all encompassing idea of chemistry. It's gotten to the point where I seriously wanna take tallies of how often chemistry slips into my mind at inappropriate time (at a rave, party, middle of the night when I can't sleep)

I have a lab book and I keep records and samples but ill never be a guy on YouTube. It's not because I can't but I always feel there's room for improvement so I'm never satisfied enough to put myself out as an educator... at least not yet. I've read a revised Albert Hoffman's paper on the synthesis from 1950 it seems the main issue, at least from the precursor he used, was the fragility of the target but things are way different now.

Then there is the idea that we, amateur chemists, walk the line and that line is becoming a firing line with recent world events. Nitrates stain my clothes and at worst my mom says it smells like a meth lab so yeah that's why I document everything and keep to academia in hopes to go back to college in 2018 as a formality and hopefully meet some PhDs who can't believe the work I do listening to dubstep in the garage

/end excerpt on the other part of my life

 

[TheMagicCoder]

Majored in chemistry at a major state university for 3 years until I ran out of funding. My life has been about chemistry for as long as I can remember so I've been reading about theory since I was making pressure bombs with soda bottles at 14 and science before that, I just fell in love with the never ending all encompassing idea of chemistry. It's gotten to the point where I seriously wanna take tallies of how often chemistry slips into my mind at inappropriate time (at a rave, party, middle of the night when I can't sleep)

I have a lab book and I keep records and samples but ill never be a guy on YouTube. It's not because I can't but I always feel there's room for improvement so I'm never satisfied enough to put myself out as an educator... at least not yet. I've read a revised Albert Hoffman's paper on the synthesis from 1950 it seems the main issue, at least from the precursor he used, was the fragility of the target but things are way different now.

Then there is the idea that we, amateur chemists, walk the line and that line is becoming a firing line with recent world events. Nitrates stain my clothes and at worst my mom says it smells like a meth lab so yeah that's why I document everything and keep to academia in hopes to go back to college in 2018 as a formality and hopefully meet some PhDs who can't believe the work I do listening to dubstep in the garage

/end excerpt on the other part of my life

This is why I love this forum. There's some seriously clever people on here! The whole reason I posted this was to change my own mindset. Because all I've seen all my life is drug users who didn't really amount to anything, and I knew deep down this wasn't the case for the majority, it's just I'd never really met any except my uncles, but they went downhill fast when they started using heroin and crack.

Re: the dubstep and garage. I'm also of fan of both. Not so much dubstep these days but I grew up on UK Garage (except I absolutely hate Monstaboy - I'm Sorry ... it's been overplayed). Wookie and Todd Edwards being my favorite artists.

Just the other day I was looking at molecular mechanics in the hope of eventually modeling molecules programatically. I'd eventually like to model cannaboids and how they work in the body. I will probably never get to that stage because my knowledge of science in general is pretty poor and I'm always so busy with other things. A decent microscope is on my wishlist though.

 

[NaMean517]

I was active for many years as an alcoholic, had 2 online businesses, did RCs, smoked noids all day everyday, had alot of good times, I had my own place, ect.... alcohol gave me alot of trouble pertaining to things I did blacked out tho. Alot of saying things I dont mean and occasional violence, breaking shit mostly.

But since I got back into opiates, ive lost my businesses, my apartment, and all pawnable possesions, its hard to focus on anything else when all I can think about is getting off sick, ive never stolen from any of my family EVER, and I never would betray the trust of the people I love the most in this world, if it werent for how much they loved me, and how much it would hurt them, I would probably do myself in. I avoid stealing from other people for the most part, I cant say I havent, its never been an unsuspecting victim persay, if someone owes me money and I have the option of obtaining it myself after they dodge paying me, I will. I might have a hard time sleeping at night but at least its not from pondering on a guily concious. Pertaining to stealing at least, heh.

The only laws being broken by me are those pertaining to all drug users, possesion... Obviously. I use to be a graffiti artist but were talking in the now, eh?

I may not be a current opiate addict anymore but it looks like ima be heading back to that point if I dont slow down. But ive always been able to live a normal life while using all other non opiate drugs. Having to get unsick everyday is what got me.


NaMean?

Man... This some good weed...