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Misc Ibswear I had bad ADHD doctor refused concerts and messed me up with anti psychotics diaZepam etc

Hezman94

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That's how it all started when I was ten I spoke with a psychiatrist who said dyspraxia and laziness and possibly small case of asperges my mum didn't want anything wrong with me and this behaviour went into my mind when talking with psychs at school I would lie
I tried concerts not even abusingnit and felt normal I stupidly told the psychiatrist this and amphetamine abuse went on my ooatm
 
Went on my list . I notice small doses of cocaine and amphetamines do wonders for me but the cuts in amphetamines stop me taking I and the fact half a g can be steong r than a g. Cos it's that's cut.
Cocaine doesn't last long enough nojgh I'd I get a ritalin I don't want to smoke all time same with bupeopion but they said it not allowed in UK for anti depression even tho it fucking worked.
So I ended up on alot of morphine when the concerts did wonders for my fatigue.
But I took half a thirty two mg pill crushed and swallowed and felt normal.
And everything was easy and I wanted to get out of bed.
Any alternatives l tyoeiane makes me have the hitters even ephedrine helps but made me paranoid as fuck.
I feel quetiapine is not what I needed but nearly a decade on it my brain needs it I feel these tablets give you mental issues if u don't already have then due to the massuv changes in brai. Chemistryi do have bipolar type issues but a mood wtabiliaer should of been atarted.
I feel like anti psychotics have made me have physical pain and bad restless leg syndrome o the point of xrting and stiffness that bad I wanted to die ropinirole is a saviour hutbia very addictive
I was absuing opiates.mainlynfor how bad my restlessness was and oxycodone has stimulatory properties and now I'm.on morphine it last longer better for pain but CBA to do anything
 
Even modafanill helped me and ritalin I don't need high doses sixteen mg was a bit too much it's so shit
 
With your history and record you're lucky to get scripted anything psychoactive tbh. No judgement, just how the NHS is.

What is it you are scripted the antipsychotics for?
 
I want to switch but to what not ability that was awful I felt brain dead on olanzapine risperidone I had come off morphine onto Oxy at the same time so dunno if I was getting withdrawal and djdbt rmreskise back then plzbhrkonebfubdbnybfkf
 
Doctors very often tell patients antipsychotics are "for sleep" when they're actually being scripted for psychotic disorders, standard practice.

If they diagnose you with some type of psychosis they won't give you dex either for obvious reasons, although they have no problem scripting it in patients with anxiety funnily enough. Surprised they gave you methylphenidate to be honest.

I'm curious why would a modafinil script mean you lose your driving license? Under the drug driving law you can legally drive on prescribed meds just as long as you take the scripted dose and it doesn't affect your ability to drive, I checked this myself when I got my dex script. Also got my GP to write a note just in case I get pulled over. Ironically I'm pretty sure since I have ADHD I can only legally drive on amphetamine otherwise it's irresponsible driving or something. Gotta be on my meds to concentrate. And I really do drive much better on dex, off the dex I can't pay attention to jack shit.
 
Doctors very often tell patients antipsychotics are "for sleep" when they're actually being scripted for psychotic disorders, standard practice.

If they diagnose you with some type of psychosis they won't give you dex either for obvious reasons, although they have no problem scripting it in patients with anxiety funnily enough. Surprised they gave you methylphenidate to be honest.

I'm curious why would a modafinil script mean you lose your driving license? Under the drug driving law you can legally drive on prescribed meds just as long as you take the scripted dose and it doesn't affect your ability to drive, I checked this myself when I got my dex script. Also got my GP to write a note just in case I get pulled over. Ironically I'm pretty sure since I have ADHD I can only legally drive on amphetamine otherwise it's irresponsible driving or something. Gotta be on my meds to concentrate. And I really do drive much better on dex, off the dex I can't pay attention to jack shit.
Forgot about this reply when I deleted my post.
A modafinil script would mean no driving license because you have to have narcolepsy to get the px, and narcolepsy means you lose your license.
Lots of people have trouble and get their license taken off them when they declare that they have ADHD because they have been mistakenly told that they must declare that they have it, and the DVLA don't understand that the person already had ADHD when they passed their test. Similarly some have reported that they have had DL revoked because they were taking dex, (which might be the real, if unjustified, reason my doc never gave me any). One other that I have read reported that he was permitted to drive as long as he didn't stop taking dex, which was still a load of BS as, like every other ADHDer that also drives, he too had ADHD when he took his test. It's a stupid ffing mess, and really looks like just any excuse to f*** over anyone suffering something that is already wrecking their life.

eta, Also, about my px antipsychotic, the specialist was ready to drop me out of the system, and only because I was having major trouble sleeping did she keep me on and give me quetiapine. My GP was very happy when I told him I had stopped taking it.
 
Ive switched to risperidone and cut down to hundred g quetiapine then cut down to fifty next weekk then twenty five then none
ive alrady noticed less restlessness and agitation
maybe quetiapine has been a problem sincce ive been on it eight years

only been three days tho so dnt wana jinx owt the last time i was put on risperidone i got told to stright switch it and had hallucinationswhich never had before or since and felt anxious and weird ten timrd as usual
 
Forgot about this reply when I deleted my post.
A modafinil script would mean no driving license because you have to have narcolepsy to get the px, and narcolepsy means you lose your license.
Lots of people have trouble and get their license taken off them when they declare that they have ADHD because they have been mistakenly told that they must declare that they have it, and the DVLA don't understand that the person already had ADHD when they passed their test. Similarly some have reported that they have had DL revoked because they were taking dex, (which might be the real, if unjustified, reason my doc never gave me any). One other that I have read reported that he was permitted to drive as long as he didn't stop taking dex, which was still a load of BS as, like every other ADHDer that also drives, he too had ADHD when he took his test. It's a stupid ffing mess, and really looks like just any excuse to f*** over anyone suffering something that is already wrecking their life.

eta, Also, about my px antipsychotic, the specialist was ready to drop me out of the system, and only because I was having major trouble sleeping did she keep me on and give me quetiapine. My GP was very happy when I told him I had stopped taking it.

Yeah the DVLA is a complete fucking mess.

As I understand it, you used to have to declare ADHD, but the rules changed years ago so now you only declare it if it affects your driving. So if someone tells the DVLA about ADHD the DVLA assumes it's because they are unfit to drive as a result, because you are not meant to declare it otherwise.

As you said though a lot of people are under the false impression that they're expected to declare it by default, and this is when people lose their licenses and get in a mess.

Best thing to do is not tell the DVLA shit. Get your GP to wrote a note about the meds you're prescribed so if you're ever given a roadside drug test you have evidence of medical use. In 99% of cases this should be fine unless you're involved in an accident and there's any reason to suspect reckless driving due to taking more than you're prescribed etc.

Personally I did most of my lessons and my test on dex so I drive on dex. I do concentrate a lot better when my ADHD is medicated.

Finally you know what's funny? When that daft drug driving law was being written up, they initially wanted to exclude amphetamine as a banned drug because it improves concentration. After a few consultations between the government and the medical community they decided on a special limit just for amphetamine that is way higher than any other drug covered under that law (usually the threshold only excludes accidental exposure).


You'll notice that amphetamine as a "separate approach to balance its risk."
 
Ive switched to risperidone and cut down to hundred g quetiapine then cut down to fifty next weekk then twenty five then none
ive alrady noticed less restlessness and agitation
maybe quetiapine has been a problem sincce ive been on it eight years

only been three days tho so dnt wana jinx owt the last time i was put on risperidone i got told to stright switch it and had hallucinationswhich never had before or since and felt anxious and weird ten timrd as usual
Quetiapine gave me brain fog, but it was nearly a year of not taking any when I realised I was thinking more clearly than I had for years. Up until then I thought the brain fog was due to getting old.
I also had really bad RLS, but that took longer to clear, and I found various food/supplements helped, so IDK what the original cause was. Finally getting my borderline anemia sorted helped quite a bit (it finally went so low that they gave me iron tabs) but wasn't the complete cure, and what caused the anemia in the first place?
 
Quetiapine gave me brain fog, but it was nearly a year of not taking any when I realised I was thinking more clearly than I had for years. Up until then I thought the brain fog was due to getting old.
I also had really bad RLS, but that took longer to clear, and I found various food/supplements helped, so IDK what the original cause was. Finally getting my borderline anemia sorted helped quite a bit (it finally went so low that they gave me iron tabs) but wasn't the complete cure, and what caused the anemia in the first place?

RLS and anaemia are both known side effects of quetiapine.
 
Yeah the DVLA is a complete fucking mess.

As I understand it, you used to have to declare ADHD, but the rules changed years ago so now you only declare it if it affects your driving. So if someone tells the DVLA about ADHD the DVLA assumes it's because they are unfit to drive as a result, because you are not meant to declare it otherwise.

As you said though a lot of people are under the false impression that they're expected to declare it by default, and this is when people lose their licenses and get in a mess.

Best thing to do is not tell the DVLA shit. Get your GP to wrote a note about the meds you're prescribed so if you're ever given a roadside drug test you have evidence of medical use. In 99% of cases this should be fine unless you're involved in an accident and there's any reason to suspect reckless driving due to taking more than you're prescribed etc.

Personally I did most of my lessons and my test on dex so I drive on dex. I do concentrate a lot better when my ADHD is medicated.

Finally you know what's funny? When that daft drug driving law was being written up, they initially wanted to exclude amphetamine as a banned drug because it improves concentration. After a few consultations between the government and the medical community they decided on a special limit just for amphetamine that is way higher than any other drug covered under that law (usually the threshold only excludes accidental exposure).


You'll notice that amphetamine as a "separate approach to balance its risk."
Yep. Spot on. Though sometimes it's the GP that screws things up, so not necessarily any point trying to get them to write notes.
Finally you know what's funny? When that daft drug driving law was being written up, they initially wanted to exclude amphetamine as a banned drug because it improves concentration. After a few consultations between the government and the medical community they decided on a special limit just for amphetamine that is way higher than any other drug covered under that law (usually the threshold only excludes accidental exposure).


You'll notice that amphetamine as a "separate approach to balance its risk."
What's even funnier is that the military latched onto amphetamines as a way to boost their pilots abilities, long before it was used to help ADHD.
 
RLS and anaemia are both known side effects of quetiapine.
Thanks for the info. Probably explains why the RLS was horrendous some time (years) before and after I quit the quetiapine.
I can't blame it for the anemia though, I have been borderline as long as I can remember. It would be interesting to get some blood tests done again for comparison purposes, now that I am so much better. Not just iron, but thyroid and cortisol etc.
 
What's even funnier is that the military latched onto amphetamines as a way to boost their pilots abilities, long before it was used to help ADHD.

Very good point. In WWII the Allies used dexamphetamine while the SS used methamphetamine under the pharma brand Pervitin which was extremely popular in Nazi Germany. Hitler himself was given daily injections of meth and oxy by his nutty doctor.
 
Sometimes anti psychotics and anti depressants have worse side effects than actual recreational drugs lol.

They do work for some, but it's not a cure all fix all thing. Some of them sort of have withdrawals too?
 
Sometimes anti psychotics and anti depressants have worse side effects than actual recreational drugs lol.

For sure they do. Anti-psychotics in particular are pretty nasty and while they are very good for people who live with psychosis, I think it's frankly irresponsible practice for docs to script them for less severe conditions such as anxiety. Yet this is becoming more common because they don't like benzos.

They do work for some, but it's not a cure all fix all thing. Some of them sort of have withdrawals too?

No no no they don't have withdrawals they have "discontinuation syndrome" totally different! ;)
 
They loaded me up with ridiculous amounts of antipsychotics (quantepine & olanzapine as far as I remember) after heroin treatment in the UK. I got Naltraxone implant as soon as I left the treatment center and started working in construction. It was such high amounts that I was nearly nodding at the beginning and I was lucky that I didn't have any accidents. Construction sites are one of the worst places when you are on drugs. Going to work or even walking was a hastle on those. They did such a stupid thing only to avoid prescribing benzodiazepines. I stopped taking them myself and my overall performance and mental clarity increased exponentially pretty much within a couple days.
For people who genuinely need them, they're great but using them for other ailments by utilizing their side/ secondary effects is more detrimental than beneficial.
 
For people who genuinely need them, they're great but using them for other ailments by utilizing their side/ secondary effects is more detrimental than beneficial.

Couldn't agree more. They prescribe them way too liberally these days, quetiapine in particular is just handed out on the NHS for all sorts of things it really shouldn't be. For example they prescribe it for BPD even though no medication is proven to be effective in treating that condition. It's used off-label for various anxiety disorders just to avoid scripting benzos too. Ridiculous.
 
No no no they don't have withdrawals they have "discontinuation syndrome" totally different! ;)
Oh yes, I was NOT addicted to Seroxat, no . . . I was just suicidal a day after not taking any . . . Doc didn't even admit to 'discontinuation syndrome' :( I found out later that that GP had a very poor reputation.

On the plus side of that though, is that it took far less time to get back to (admittedly still grotty) normal than it took to get over quetiapine.
 
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